[James Hutchins]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

I am always so amazed that common sense seems to elude so many people. There are indisputable facts, that even the simplest person can ascertain yet they hold fast to words in a book they read. Words put in such a manner that if questioned, they are often ridiculed as being a fool, so they steadfastly, stick to the story, no matter how obviously implausible.
A month back, I was driving back from Vegas in the desert. 100 miles dead straight, flat and pitch black. I was driving along in my whaletail at about 130 listen to a CD of 'Jesus Hold me to your Bosom'. After a scant fifteen minutes, one of those hippy Prius came the other direction. I never saw the headlights of the queercar until it was five minutes away. Five minutes was less than 20 miles. If I could not see the bright headlights of a car in a pitch black night at 20 miles, how could anyone see the sun if it were millions of miles away?

[Elmer G. White]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

Nope. The sun is HUGE, but is much, MUCH farther from us than the Moon, while the moon is tiny and very close in astronomical terms.

Mr. Van, you testimony above is apparently all the evidence that you are able to provide us. As such, it merits unbiased assessment that, however, is disastrous to your credibility.

1. Are you an eyewitness or just channeling secondhand information? If you are an eyewitness, your testimonial might have some merit (but see also 2 Thessalonians 2:11). Still, we would have to examine your reliability as an eyewitness. Have you ever lied? Have you ever interpreted evidence erroneously? If you have, then this could be one of those occasions,. We, in contrast, have an eyewitness account that is utterly reliable as it comes directly from God who is always Truthful™ (Titus 1:2). He is our eyewitness.

Jeremiah 29:23
Because they have committed villany in Israel, and have committed adultery with their neighbours' wives, and have spoken lying words in my name, which I have not commanded them; even I know, and am a witness, saith the LORD.

2. Your evidence leaks like a sieve of vanity (Isaiah 30:28). If the Sun were far away and huge, we would not be able to see how it shrinks as it circulates our disk.



As you can see, closer to the horizon the Sun appears smaller, as it is farther away. This can only take place if the difference in distance is significant in percentage and that is only possible if the Sun is small and close. The image below will explain this to the uninitiated.



In contrast to you, we have eyewitnesses who have indeed seen the horizon from high above, close to the Firmament (Genesis 1:6). It is not curved, as the photograph below proves without any doubt.



Finally, the Sun cannot be very far away as it is often seen in front of cloud formations, as follows:



As explained below, even if secular evidence did not prove the Sun's small size and location in the Earth's vicinity, the Bible would still take precedence, as the contradictory observations are obviously delusions, tests by God to determine which people are eligible to eternal Life in Heaven!


Yours in Christ,

Elmer

[Vantheman4321]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

The moon has to be the same miles away like the sun since they both have the same size.

Nope. The sun is HUGE, but is much, MUCH farther from us than the Moon, while the moon is tiny and very close in astronomical terms.

[Vantheman4321]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

Let me explain it more simply. If the sun was any further away we couldn't feel the heat from it.

Actually , In space, radiation has nothing to dispurse itself into , and thus can travel millions of miles. Also, if the sun is so close, why isn't earth sucked into it's gravity? At that distance any orbital speed would cause an escape from it's pull, but would need to be hundreds or maybe Thousands of miles per second , so earth would likely just fall into the sun.

The mass of the sun also accounts for how we can feel it's heat so far away. A fireplace will generate more heat than a candle. If you apply this to the SUN, it makes sense.

The earth isn't flat. You can obviously see curviture of our planet as you climb higher. From amateur rockets, to the great Saturn V that brought men to the moon.


Also, (i know this will come up) it was IMPOSSIBLE and would be MORE EXPENSIVE to fake a moon landing in 1960's/70's.


Sorry for typos, i'm typing on an iphone!

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

After ten years no one has even come close to proving the Pastor wrong!

Glory!

[Joanna Lytton-Vasey]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

Could you please address the topic in complete sentences?

I see what you mean, Dr Niles. Let's try and clear up the many, many questions this post poses!

Wien's displacement law states that the spectral radiance of black body radiation.

States that it does what?

Ultra violet A, Ultra Violet B, Infrared light?

What exactly is the question you are asking here? You can't expect Professor Dr White to clear up your misunderstandings if it is not clear what you want to know. He is a scientist, not a mind-reader.

Which is only measurable when taking our distance to Venus and watching that over a years period.

What does the word which refer back to?

Which you will eventually find the farthest distance away creating a triangle and solving is easy.

Again, what is which? And solving is a transitive verb; so, solving what? It implies a problem of some sort. If you tell us what it is, we can probably help you with that.

The sun is much farther then you think.

I am prepared to concede that you may be correct about this as I would have thought it was quite a lot closer than 491.1 miles. So yes, its distance from here is much greater than I thought before reading Pastor Billy-Reuben's explanation.

YiC
JL-V

[Johny Joe Hold]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

All this makes me wonder how much time Satan spends sending these trolls here with their "science" propaganda. The Bible explains everything know about the sun. The liberal science community is just a tool of Satan.

[Titus Templeton]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

The moon has to be the same miles away like the sun since they both have the same size.

[Elmer G. White]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

Dear Miss Djotis,

The most basic concepts of Creation Science dictate that all preliminary hypotheses must first and foremost be examined to assess if they are compatible with something that everybody knows to contain the Truth™, the Bible®.

You have here a hypothesis. Let us look at it:

I hope you haven't staked your life's claim on this pastor. Wien's displacement law states that the spectral radiance of black body radiation. Radiation is one of the many gifts we get from the sun. Ultra violet A, Ultra Violet B, Infrared light?
Which is only measurable when taking our distance to Venus and watching that over a years period. Which you will eventually find the farthest distance away creating a triangle and solving is easy. The sun is much farther then you think. 149 million and change but if for some reason it was 500 miles away we would all be toast. 5000 kelvin is 8500 Fahrenheit roughly. But I would guess I'm out less then you. Good news I guess. ��

Now, let us look at the Bible regarding these issues.

Genesis 1:14-16
And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so. And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.

No triangles, no "Venus", no ultra-violent light... I am sorry, but this disproves your hypothesis. Still, I appreciate your efforts but next time it is prudent to test your basic assumptions against the FACTS first, it will make peer review less painful for you!


Yours in Christ,

Elmer

[Dr Laurence Niles]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

I hope you haven't staked your life's claim on this pastor. Wien's displacement law states that the spectral radiance of black body radiation. Radiation is one of the many gifts we get from the sun. Ultra violet A, Ultra Violet B, Infrared light?
Which is only measurable when taking our distance to Venus and watching that over a years period. Which you will eventually find the farthest distance away creating a triangle and solving is easy. The sun is much farther then you think. 149 million and change but if for some reason it was 500 miles away we would all be toast. 5000 kelvin is 8500 Fahrenheit roughly. But I would guess I'm out less then you. Good news I guess. 😉

Could you please address the topic in complete sentences?

YIC

[Djotis]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

I hope you haven't staked your life's claim on this pastor. Wien's displacement law states that the spectral radiance of black body radiation. Radiation is one of the many gifts we get from the sun. Ultra violet A, Ultra Violet B, Infrared light?
Which is only measurable when taking our distance to Venus and watching that over a years period. Which you will eventually find the farthest distance away creating a triangle and solving is easy. The sun is much farther then you think. 149 million and change but if for some reason it was 500 miles away we would all be toast. 5000 kelvin is 8500 Fahrenheit roughly. But I would guess I'm out less then you. Good news I guess. 😉

[Elmer G. White]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

Great work, Pastor. However, this is assuming that those formulas are correct. They were after all made by evil scientists who would believe that we were on the moon if I put it alongside with random numbers, so I would not put that number to heart.

Mr. Person,

You are correct when you doubt the material produced by heathen scholars. They usually have an agenda to usurp Jesus and replace Him with His enemies. Thus, everything these scientists produce must be re-evaluated by the tools of Creation Science. The principal methods of Creation Science, prayer and Scripture are, however, extremely powerful and reliable ways to extract the Truth™. You can rest assured that all the material presented in LBC has been scrutinized by this method in order to present the sinners only conclusions that are beyond all reasonable doubt.

Generally, we have found that atheist scholars do good maths and observations but their interpretation of results are of deplorable quality. Why is that?

Matthew 22:29
Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.

What a difference from us True Christian™ Creation Scientists! We know the Scripture. We know the Power of God to smite us any second, we know His habit of exterminating whole nations when they oppose Him, we are aware of his wish to slay His enemies before Him (Luke 19:27). That is why our results are of superior quality and you have no need to re-review them nor to repeat our experiments. God does the peer-review for us!




Yours in Christ,

Elmer

[Poetic person]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

Great work, Pastor. However, this is assuming that those formulas are correct. They were after all made by evil scientists who would believe that we were on the moon if I put it alongside with random numbers, so I would not put that number to heart.

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

The reason we have seasons is because the earth is tilted and during the summer, the top half of the earth (The part in which we live) is tilted towards the sun so we get more light and therefore more heat. during the winter, it is tilted away, receiving less light resulting in less heat.

Don't be silly. Everything would roll off.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

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