[Sacha-DG]

Re: Flat Earth? Hell Yes!

What Americans do and do not believe is irrelevant. The matter of the world being flat is a scientifical matter, not a matter of faith.

The majority of Americans may believe in creationism, but the belief that the Earth is flat is not so common, as you see, it has been proven wrong. People sailing around the world, treks across the polar regions, satellite imagery, even simple maths which I used in my previous post have all been used to prove it wrong.

It is possible I am mistaken about the metaphorical meanings, but do not forget that in Jesus' time, it was indeed believed that the world was flat, due to insufficent technology to prove otherwise.

The Bible is a book of religion, not of science. Do not quote it in a scientific debate.

[One-eyed Jack]

Re: Flat Earth? Hell Yes!

No less an authority than Robert Schadewald wrote -- in the SKEPTICAL INQUIRER NO LESS! -- that "...flat-earthism is as well supported scripturally and scientifically as creationism."

Now let's do the math. 55% of all American voters believe in creationism. If flat-earthism is as valid scripturally AND SCIENTIFICALLY as creationism, then OVER HALF OF ALL AMERICANS should, based on Christian beliefs, find that flat-earthism is valid.

157,118,453.25 American Christians believe that God's Word is better than scientific snot-hole-ism about evolution. Why should Christian scripture indicating a flat earth be any less believable?

I'll bet you doubters just think scripture is a pile of stupid superstition that should be eliminated from the human mental gene pool. God hates people like you.

~~ OEJ

[Sacha-DG]

Re: Flat Earth? Hell Yes!

DJ Troll; is the path of light effected by gravity yes or no? Have you ever heard of astronomers using gravitational lensing to see distant stars?

Perhaps you should do some reseach of your own.

A gravitational lens is formed when the light from a very distant, bright source (such as a quasar) is "bent" around a massive object (such as a cluster of galaxies) between the source object and the observer.

'very distant', 'cluster of galaxies'. In relation to how big the universe is, the sun is hardly 'very distant' from the Earth, especially in relation to a galaxy, let alone a whole cluster of them.
Allow me to clarify: Our Sun is a star. A Galaxy is a collection of hundreds of thousands of stars. Other than the Sun, the closest star to Earth is Proxima Centauri, which is almost 40 trillion kilometres away, (39.9 to be exact). The sun is 150 million km away, which is comparatively small.
The size of several collections of millions of stars trillions of kilometres away from one another is sensationally greater than the distance between the Sun and the Earth.
Gravity is the force between 2 objects. Light is energy, not an object. It is composed of photons, which have no mass, hence being able to travel at the speed of light. Having no mass, they are virtually unaffected by gravity and so would not be bent even remotely in such a short distance.

If the Sun went around underneath the Earth at night, why, therefore is it night in Australia when it is day in the UK?. It is 00:52 GMT now, yet it is 19:52 EST. If the Sun was above all the Earth, it should be equally light in different parts of the world at all times. Yet I am sitting here next to my window in the UK and it is most certainly totally dark out, when for you the Sun may still be setting.

America is roughly 7000km from the UK. Light travels at a speed of 299,796,000 m/s. According to your flat Earth theory, light should take at least 5 hours to reach the UK from America. But if you do a simple calculation, you will see that it in fact takes alot less than 1 second.

There is your flat Earth foolishness proven wrong. When the Bible says 'the four corners of the Earth' and other such things, they are strictly metaphorical. Taking every word of the Bible literally is foolishness, it was even said by many followers of Christ during His time that Christ spoke in riddles.

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Flat Earth? Hell Yes!

If the Earth is flat, as you mormons proclaim, why is it that when a ship sails into the horizon, it slowly disappears. First the ship itself then the mast until it is completely out of sight? If it were flat, it would disappear suddenly as it fell of the edge. You people never cease to amaze me with your ignorance. Also, to Bobby Joe:


that is the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life. I wish I had all of your addresses so I could add you to my x-mas list and send you Happy Holidays cards at the end of December!

DJ Troll; is the path of light effected by gravity yes or no? Have you ever heard of astronomers using gravitational lensing to see distant stars?

[DJ Troll]

Re: Flat Earth? Hell Yes!

If the Earth is flat, as you morons proclaim, why is it that when a ship sails into the horizon, it slowly disappears. First the ship itself then the mast until it is completely out of sight? If it were flat, it would disappear suddenly as it fell of the edge. You people never cease to amaze me with your ignorance. Also, to Bobby Joe:

How would it be dark if the earth was round friend? Light bends from gravity so the light would bend around a round earth making day all the time.

that is the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life. I wish I had all of your addresses so I could add you to my x-mas list and send you Happy Holidays cards at the end of December!