[F. Nietzsche]

Re: Flat Earth? Hell Yes!

How would it be dark if the earth was round friend? Light bends from gravity so the light would bend around a round earth making day all the time.

Right now it is currently 1:15 AM in Weimar, Germany, where I live. If in fact the earth was flat, the entire world would have more or less the same day/night cycle, not to mention the same overall view of the night sky, which is completely wrong.

Travel several hundred miles south and the position of Polaris shifts towards the horizon, until once the Equator is crossed, it ceases to be visible. Explain to me again how such a thing can take place in a flat earth with roughly the same plane of reference for all points on said disc (which I assume is the model you have of it.)?

The simple fact is, there is more which can be done with optics and simple observation which can show the curvature of the Earth than several NASA photographs.

[Kerplunki Zerplopski]

Re: Flat Earth? Hell Yes!

Does anybody bother reading the whole thread before posting anymore? We have explained this now about 16 different times.

The Earth is flat, but it does rotate once per day around the Central Pole (much like a record player or a potter's wheel rotating). This rotation causes a coriolis force that gently pushes boats, airplanes, etc. around in a circle, so that it appears to those who are unfamiliar with the physics involved that they have traversed a globe.

If you don't believe me, take a ruler to a map of the world and draw a straight line between New York and London. It goes out over the ocean, never coming close to Canada or Greenland:




Yet here is the actual path that planes take between these two cities, which passes over parts of Canada and close enough to Greenland to spot the ice pack (which, BTW, looks pretty intact to me, contrary to the Al Gore propaganda line):



Why the difference? As Dr. Ville has described in his excellent 24 volume monograph, Creation Science At The Crossroads: Biblical Geography In The Transportation Industry, they need to fly farther north than a direct route to correct for the coriolis force.

Now, you're probably thinking, if the Earth rotates like this once per day around the Central Pole, why don't we see the Sun, the Moon, and the stars moving in a circle in the sky? The answer is simple--the Firmament of the Heavens is attached to the Earth by fixed pillars, so when the Earth rotates, the sky rotates with it. And, if you go far enough north or south, you actually do see the Sun complete a daily circle around the sky during the summer months.

As I've just explained, that won't happen. The closer you get to the edge, the more foreceful is the coriolis force, so, no matter how hard you try, you cannot actually reach the edge--unless, like Steve Fawcett, you are there trying to prove the Bible wrong. God does not like to be mocked, and he has been known to let an unbeliever or two fall off the edge (landing in Hell, where the unbeliever dies immediately on impact, heads up to Heaven for the Final Judgement, then goes right back down to Hell).

And yes, I have been on airplanes between New York and London, and, sure enough, you fly as much north-south as you do east-west, just as predicted by Dr. Ville's theory.

The coriolis force applies to light, just the way it applies to airplanes and boats--but, because the strength of the coriolis force is proportional to the velocity of the object, light gets bent far beyond what Einstein ever could have imagined when you get close to the edge of the World.

The Central Pole is in the mid-Atlantic. Nobody really knows where the four corners are exactly, since, being the farthest points from the Central Pole, they are the hardest to reach. Although I like your idea that one corner is in the Holy Land, I can assure you that I have explored every street in Freehold, Iowa (collecting evidence for successful lawsuit against Mapquest et al. to have Freehold, whose location is copyrighted, removed from their maps, unless they paid a substantial royalty; so far, they have refused to fork over the cash), and there is no corner of the Earth anywhere to be seen around here.

okay... so what you're saying is that flying from America to say.. Japan or China without first crossing the whole of the planet?

then... how did all those people travel between those countries in less than a day?

[just Jimi]

Re: Flat Earth? Hell Yes!

Does anybody bother reading the whole thread before posting anymore? We have explained this now about 16 different times.

The Earth is flat, but it does rotate once per day around the Central Pole (much like a record player or a potter's wheel rotating). This rotation causes a coriolis force that gently pushes boats, airplanes, etc. around in a circle, so that it appears to those who are unfamiliar with the physics involved that they have traversed a globe.

Do you actually believe the crap you are saying?
and I thought there couldn't be such morons.....
aai feel soow sorry for you

[Sommanol Beatmeup]

Re: Flat Earth? Hell Yes!

[Ahimaaz Smith]

Re: Flat Earth? Hell Yes!

To come back at the original subject,
if the earth would be flat, then how did Steve Fosset (and all the others) fly around the world? Did they went to one side of the earth and then suddenly appeared on the other side of the planet?

Does anybody bother reading the whole thread before posting anymore? We have explained this now about 16 different times.

The Earth is flat, but it does rotate once per day around the Central Pole (much like a record player or a potter's wheel rotating). This rotation causes a coriolis force that gently pushes boats, airplanes, etc. around in a circle, so that it appears to those who are unfamiliar with the physics involved that they have traversed a globe.

If you don't believe me, take a ruler to a map of the world and draw a straight line between New York and London. It goes out over the ocean, never coming close to Canada or Greenland:




Yet here is the actual path that planes take between these two cities, which passes over parts of Canada and close enough to Greenland to spot the ice pack (which, BTW, looks pretty intact to me, contrary to the Al Gore propaganda line):



Why the difference? As Dr. Ville has described in his excellent 24 volume monograph, Creation Science At The Crossroads: Biblical Geography In The Transportation Industry, they need to fly farther north than a direct route to correct for the coriolis force.

Now, you're probably thinking, if the Earth rotates like this once per day around the Central Pole, why don't we see the Sun, the Moon, and the stars moving in a circle in the sky? The answer is simple--the Firmament of the Heavens is attached to the Earth by fixed pillars, so when the Earth rotates, the sky rotates with it. And, if you go far enough north or south, you actually do see the Sun complete a daily circle around the sky during the summer months.

Maybe you should go check it out yourself? Just get in your car, boat, plane or whatever and just keep going in one direction. Maybe you will fall of the earth

As I've just explained, that won't happen. The closer you get to the edge, the more foreceful is the coriolis force, so, no matter how hard you try, you cannot actually reach the edge--unless, like Steve Fawcett, you are there trying to prove the Bible wrong. God does not like to be mocked, and he has been known to let an unbeliever or two fall off the edge (landing in Hell, where the unbeliever dies immediately on impact, heads up to Heaven for the Final Judgement, then goes right back down to Hell).

And yes, I have been on airplanes between New York and London, and, sure enough, you fly as much north-south as you do east-west, just as predicted by Dr. Ville's theory.

gravity on earth is weak
it cannot bend light, for gravity on earth is nothing like a black hole

The coriolis force applies to light, just the way it applies to airplanes and boats--but, because the strength of the coriolis force is proportional to the velocity of the object, light gets bent far beyond what Einstein ever could have imagined when you get close to the edge of the World.

The 4 corners are obvously the North and south pole, the other two are in the Holy land, and somewhere in Texas (or maybe California I don't remember which one)

The Central Pole is in the mid-Atlantic. Nobody really knows where the four corners are exactly, since, being the farthest points from the Central Pole, they are the hardest to reach. Although I like your idea that one corner is in the Holy Land, I can assure you that I have explored every street in Freehold, Iowa (collecting evidence for successful lawsuit against Mapquest et al. to have Freehold, whose location is copyrighted, removed from their maps, unless they paid a substantial royalty; so far, they have refused to fork over the cash), and there is no corner of the Earth anywhere to be seen around here.

[Stridex Puss Bucket]

gravity on earth is weak
it cannot bend light, for gravity on earth is nothing like a black hole
The 4 corners are obvously the North and south pole, the other two are in the Holy land, and somewhere in Texas (or maybe California I don't remember which one)

[Wide-Open]

Re: Flat Earth? Hell Yes!

To come back at the original subject,
if the earth would be flat, then how did Steve Fosset (and all the others) fly around the world?

Do you realise that he somewhat got lost? And is presumed to have keeled over? Snuffed it? Is no longer amongst us?

If the earth is round, where is he know? Tell me, oh smart one.

He's fallen away, that's what. Go past the corners, and you fall off. Finito.

Amen.

BTW, you're not a Limburger are you? I know you like your Steves and all that, but there are limits.

[just Jimi]

Re: Flat Earth? Hell Yes!

To come back at the original subject,
if the earth would be flat, then how did Steve Fosset (and all the others) fly around the world?
Did they went to one side of the earth and then suddenly appeared on the
other side of the planet?

Maybe you should go check it out yourself? Just get in your car, boat, plane or whatever and just keep going in one direction. Maybe you will fall of the earth

Actually you've given the answer already: 'then those verses don't make sense' --> We're talking about the bible here, of course it doesn't make sense...

[Dr. Santiago Solo]

Re: Flat Earth? Hell Yes!

Simple:

When electrons return to their normal energylevel, the extra energy will be transmitted out of the unity. We all know that. But according to their ammount of energy, they get a certain frequency and a certain amplitude. This causes the photons to form waves.

No, that causes energy to be released in the form of X-ray radiation, that is not detected by the scanning electron microprobe, and is not an interaction of the electron with a photon, but a result of the liberation of secondary electrons from the electron beam, don't they teach you anything in high school?

[Dr. Santiago Solo]

Re: Flat Earth? Hell Yes!

He didn't say that they existed of quarks. You really have to be a retard to say that..

Explain to me the existence of mass without quarks, under the light of quantum physics, and how the hell you can get an electron to interact with a photon and you to be able to detect it under the SEM? He might have been thinking about particles acceleration, and no, photons don't have a mass.

[Sommanol Beatmeup]

Re: Flat Earth? Hell Yes!

Using electron microscopes???
Uhu.
Photons have a mass??????
Uhu, but a very very small one.
Please, stop, I can't take it anymore...
Stay off the sleeppills..

You do know electron microscopes work at a scale fare greater that the one that would allow you to see photons, right? And how do you explain the duality of particle/wave behaviour of light?
Simple:
When electrons return to their normal energylevel, the extra energy will be transmitted out of the unity. We all know that. But according to their ammount of energy, they get a certain frequency and a certain amplitude. This causes the photons to form waves.

What about anti-matter, if it interacts with matter, the result is the liberation of photons, are you stating that photons are made of quarks? which quarks?

He didn't say that they existed of quarks. You really have to be a retard to say that..

[Dr. Santiago Solo]

Re: Flat Earth? Hell Yes!

Using Electron microscopes, it has been proven that light emitting molecules emmit particles called Photons. Since these particles (the Photons) are actual particles, they have a mass, and therefore are atracted by black holes, proving Einstein right

Using electron microscopes??? Photons have a mass?????? Please, stop, I can't take it anymore... You do know electron microscopes work at a scale fare greater that the one that would allow you to see photons, right? And how do you explain the duality of particle/wave behaviour of light? What about anti-matter, if it interacts with matter, the result is the liberation of photons, are you stating that photons are made of quarks? which quarks?

[Dr. Santiago Solo]

Re: Flat Earth? Hell Yes!

What do black holes do then, according to you? Reading the bible???

Listen, you insolent little brat, black holes are there because God wants them to be there, and they do as God commands them to do, and all you have heard about those theories is seriously flawed, for they believe black holes to be at millions and millions of light-years away and we all know that they can only be ~6000 light years away tops. Oh, and about your signature? Science is the search for truth, not the truth itself, that's why it can only be performed in accordance to the Absolute Truth©, i. e. the Blessed Word of the LORD, shout Glory and Amen!

[Kerplunki Zerplopski]

Re: Flat Earth? Hell Yes!

Using Electron microscopes, it has been proven that light emitting molecules emmit particles called Photons. Since these particles (the Photons) are actual particles, they have a mass, and therefore are atracted by black holes, proving Einstein right

[Peter]

Re: Flat Earth? Hell Yes!

I'm glad you at least agree with us that this Einstein joo was making things up when he stated that gravity bends light!

What do black holes do then, according to you? Reading the bible???