True Christianity™ Flow Chart

[Professor Bessemer]

After my lecture yesterday "Creation Science and Your Immortal Soul", I was asked by several attendies for a chart I used during the introduction. To save on printing costs, I told them I would post it here.

If you want to print a copy, feel free to do so. If you are a True Christian™, you can pay me the $5.00 royalty at my next lecture. If you are Unsaved Trash, the fee is $8.50 and must be mailed to me prior to printing the document. Remember, God is watching you always!

[Brother Lazarus]

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After my lecture yesterday "Creation Science and Your Immortal Soul", I was asked by several attendies for a chart I used during the introduction. To save on printing costs, I told them I would post it here.

If you want to print a copy, feel free to do so. If you are a True Christian™, you can pay me the $5.00 royalty at my next lecture. If you are Unsaved Trash, the fee is $8.50 and must be mailed to me prior to printing the document. Remember, God is watching you always!

That is an impressive diagram Professor! For all of the fog we often experience here on this message board it is great to see such clarity of thought summed up in one simple chart.

Excellent work, Professor!

Yours in Christ
Brother Lazarus

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

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Excellent and Godly work Prof. Bessemer! Simple, clear and a model of communication that even the Unsaved Trash will grasp. I would have enclosed $500 for 100 copies but I have already posted this message.

[Brother Jessup]

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The chart, good professor, is a marvel and a work of pure logic that no secular man of science could argue credibly against.

I applaud and commend you on your great and ingenious accomplishments.






The Honorable Brother Jessup T. Lloyd has spoken………Amen!

[Capt. Aaron Portway]

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Thanks Professor! I printed out 20 of them to post around offices and shop areas at Landover AirJesus. We have some maintenance people that aren't True Christians™ (Yet that is! I've got my fingers crossed for a couple of them!) and I want them to always remember what is in store for them if they are not Saved before Jesus takes them!

I'll have that $100.00 for you at next week's lecture!

[James Hutchins]

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I think I need to get a few of those to put over those dumb "Hazardous Materials" placards on my truck, Sure are a sight better to look at.

[MidwestCatLady]

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Professor: Why put science on the bottom? I seem to be the only person on the planet that finds it entirely possible God invented science when he gave us such great minds - we just got the interpretation wrong. (Kind of like the Tower of Babel.) I wonder if everyone did not get hung up on the terms creationism and evolution. I see no proof we as humans came from apes but I see the world evolve, species change, climate changes - just not us. Well, not much. We did get taller over the years and fatter. How much do you think we argue complex meanings and wording rather than experience? After all, words are symbols which describe experience. This is one reason I love art and imagery. It is pretty difficult to not understand the symbolism and meaning in the image of Christ suffering and dieing on the cross.

[Capt. Aaron Portway]

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Professor: Why put science on the bottom? I seem to be the only person on the planet that finds it entirely possible God invented science when he gave us such great minds - we just got the interpretation wrong. (Kind of like the Tower of Babel.) I wonder if everyone did not get hung up on the terms creationism and evolution. I see no proof we as humans came from apes but I see the world evolve, species change, climate changes - just not us. Well, not much. We did get taller over the years and fatter. How much do you think we argue complex meanings and wording rather than experience? After all, words are symbols which describe experience. This is one reason I love art and imagery. It is pretty difficult to not understand the symbolism and meaning in the image of Christ suffering and dieing on the cross.

That's a lot of awful big words to say what? God might have invented science? Well of course he did! He created EVERYTHING! But God also created trees. Now, I can hear the gears in your atheist head grinding. So what right?

Well, if you worship trees, which are God's creation, you'll still go Hell. Same deal with science. Worshipping science = Lake of Fire for eternity.

[Professor Bessemer]

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While I might have put it a bit more eloquently, Brother Portway has answered this non-believers question quite admirably.

The point of the chart was to show, in an easy to understand graphic, that whether you are a Godless atheist or a member of a false church, the results are the same; eternity with Satan.

Now, either the false churches or the godless secularists could have been at the bottom of the graphic, because in God's eyes, they are equally damned. The relative merits of the two schools of thought are immaterial, although we have had more success converting members of false churches to the One True Faith™. Atheists, at least in my experience, seem to be an irretrievably Hellbound group.

[MidwestCatLady]

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No, not an athiest. I choose the term agnostic but that does not really describe me either. I believe in one God - one creator and one savior but I choose no particular names for my experiences. My wheels are not spinning. I see algorithms in helix formations like strands of DNA each needing to build off the other rather than a rule in/rule out model. I like your chart but think there are many ways to get to hell and just as many to get to heaven. Well, as long as heaven leads the person to a single great creator who understands each person's inner self and a lifetime of actions utterly and completely. I do not talk in verses but can only speak of experiences like painting a picture. Hell is easier to describe. I think some really bad people and non believers are given multiple opportunities to believe and to make amends for their wrong doings. I know and have seen this belief or change come to them in a language only they understand; words only they can hear. Miraculous or awful it is not usually a Bible reading or Prayer club that saves them. It is something else.

Unfortunately, not everyone realizes the quiet sound of God's voice or his gentle touch when he is standing beside them. Sometimes it takes a bat over the head and a really rough patch. I just do not think salvation only comes from certain words but from a feeling and belief system deep within ones heart and mind. You can put books and objects in your algorithm but faith isn't something that has a picture. But I could be wrong. I also know many men of science who could not function without their strong faith in God especially when they are holding someone's heart and hoping their skill as a surgeon was enough to put this human being back together.

You placed theology in the middle - was that your symbol for multiple beliefs as in the science of religion. . . Those pompous theologians expertly telling us all about history and religion and various patterns of practice?

I am trying to picture what my algorithm would look like but for me it is all feeling. (I know the Pastor does not like this term.) How do you describe to someone the symbolism behind the suffering of Christ and all that single image encompasses? We were meant to suffer and should do so without question. I would put that image at the top. At the bottom, I would place a big pile of money and the American Dream. Somewhere in the middle, I would put our justice system.

[Capt. Aaron Portway]

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Wow, even more fifty-cent words! This stuff is beyond me. Professor Bessemer should answer this post.

[Miss April]

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That is a great Chart Professor Bessemer Wonderful Job keep up the good work

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

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No, not an athiest. I choose the term agnostic but that does not really describe me either. I believe in one God - one creator and one savior but I choose no particular names for my experiences. […]We were meant to suffer and should do so without question. I would put that image at the top. At the bottom, I would place a big pile of money and the American Dream. Somewhere in the middle, I would put our justice system.

If I may sum up the World since Creation:

• God creates everything
• God’s Words are recorded by wise men
• Jesus arrives and shows us more of God
• People start having ideas about what God thinks and what He does and why He does it.
• God visits King James and orders that His Word be written down exactly as He wanted it and avoiding all the mistakes that might have crept in – thus making it clear to everyone.
• People start having ideas about what God thinks and what He does and why He does it.

Now this is like my giving you an instruction manual on how to operate your TV. If you follow what is in it, you have the manufacturer’s word that you will see the picture. If you start making your own rules up or you start listening to others’ ideas, your TV will break and you’ll never see anything – worse still, your warranty is void.

Likewise, with God – obey His Rules and all will be OK – He didn’t spend all that time having the Bible written so you could just wander off and make some stuff up by yourself. So stop having ideas about what God thinks and what He does and why He does it – it’s all there in KJV1611.

[MidwestCatLady]

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Now this is like my giving you an instruction manual on how to operate your TV. If you follow what is in it, you have the manufacturer’s word that you will see the picture. If you start making your own rules up or you start listening to others’ ideas, your TV will break and you’ll never see anything – worse still, your warranty is void.

I realize most here are pretty cut and dried. The professor was allowed his algorithm based on his faith. My experience (words = symbols = experience) is not different. I am an artist so my opinion comes from a visual layperson living in a secular world.

To use your own analogy most people throw out the instruction manual on their television because they never need it. There are no rules to the operation of a television only freedom of choice in what you choose to watch - to fill an empty, unoccupied mind. You plug it in, it works! No one cares if their warranty is void because technology changes so fast everyone's TV is obsolete by the time they walk out of the store. This is our fast food version of religion. I am commenting on society, not God and not you. It is a generalization.

Now, how might what I just said have anything to do with your concern that I am interpreting the word of God? I have no idea. What I do know is experience isn't what happens to us but what we choose to do with what happens to us. I do not know what God thinks. You have your King James. I have my cat. I accept Christ as my savior and leave it at that. I accept any suffering God would like me to endure with gratefulness in my heart for being given any opportunity to do some good down here. The Professor got to draw his beautifully done algorithm and I was simply trying to picture what mine would look like. I still have that freedom last time I checked. And, I do disagree that science would be on the bottom. Although, it depends on what kind of science since there are many fields of study. Some things should cause us to be amazed at creation and in awe at our very existence.

From my perspective, anything that brings a person closer to the realization of God and Jesus Christ are good things. Not everyone is going right for the King James if they have not even read See Dick Run. So, I am one of those people that threw out my instruction manual long ago and simply plugged in my TV and prayed it would work. The problem is I really never have time to watch it and do not like any of my choices. So, now it sits in the corner and collects dust.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

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[...]my opinion comes from a visual layperson living in a secular world.

This does not, of course mean that you must adopt lay reasoning to deduce our purpose here.

To use your own analogy most people throw out the instruction manual on their television because they never need it. There are no rules to the operation of a television only freedom of choice in what you choose to watch - to fill an empty, unoccupied mind. You plug it in, it works!

Whoa there Miss! The Bible tells us that we should always be in a state of readiness for the 2nd Coming, when many will be slaughtered. We are all about people reading the manual whilst they have the chance in case something suddenly goes awry.

No one cares if their warranty is void because technology changes so fast everyone's TV is obsolete by the time they walk out of the store.

..but God's Word is timeless.

This is our fast food version of religion. I am commenting on society, not God and not you.

Yes, but society must be changed!

You have your King James. I have my cat.

Folk tales tell of the calming effects of cats on people. It is well known that if a wife is having difficulty conceiving, then she should take a cat that her mind might be distracted. Mind you, cats were also favorite familiars amongst covens of witches.

I accept Christ as my savior and leave it at that. I accept any suffering God would like me to endure with gratefulness in my heart for being given any opportunity to do some good down here.

Why do you think God makes you suffer? Is it not clear that this is His way of trying to get you back on track?

Not everyone is going right for the King James if they have not even read See Dick Run.

...and hence Pastors

So, I am one of those people that threw out my instruction manual long ago and simply plugged in my TV and prayed it would work.

...do you see a link between that and suffering?

The problem is I really never have time to watch it and do not like any of my choices. So, now it sits in the corner and collects dust.

..and I bet you are one of those people who are not bothered by gays, fornication, worship of foreign gods, working on the Sabbath, women telling men what to do, and all other evils, etc.