Creationism VS Science... ... ... A discussion

[richard dawkins idiot son]

what is the truth of the universe...?

[James Hutchins]

Re: Creationism VS Science... ... ... A discussion

God and the KJV 1611 Bible.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Creationism VS Science... ... ... A discussion

Ge:1:1: In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
Ge:1:2: And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

[PlanetF1]

Re: Creationism VS Science... ... ... A discussion

what is the truth of the universe...?

Big bang theory!

[James Hutchins]

Re: Creationism VS Science... ... ... A discussion

Big bang theory!

And you wonder why people do not like you.

You are wrong and a moron to make a false statement such as that. Back up your absurd claim with scripture or recant.

[richard dawkins idiot son]

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Most people, I believe, think that you need a God to explain the existence of the world, and especially the existence of life. They are wrong, but our education system is such that many people don't know it

[WWJDnow]

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Most people, I believe, think that you need a God to explain the existence of the world, and especially the existence of life. They are wrong, but our education system is such that many people don't know it

What proof do you have that you don't need a God to explain the existence of the world and of life? Personal opinions may be enough to satisfy you, but we Christians require evidence before we will believe something.

[richard dawkins idiot son]

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Her is some scripture for you...

The Big Bang theory tells us how the Universe began and is evolving. In essence, it is a theory that was created to explain two facts that we know about the Universe - it is gradually expanding and cooling. In the 1920s, Edwin Hubble found that galaxies far from our own Milky Way are moving away from us. In fact, the further away galaxies are, the faster they are receding. So he concluded that the whole Universe must have been expanding. Working backwards this means that at one stage the Universe must have come from a single point.
We also know that the Universe is cooler now than in the past. In the 1960s Arno Panzias and Robert Wilson detected the afterglow of the Big Bang, known as the CMB which revealed that the Universe was once a very hot, hostile place. Both these discoveries led astronomers to deduce that the Universe began as an infinitely compact fireball.

[PlanetF1]

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And you wonder why people do not like you.

You are wrong and a moron to make a false statement such as that. Back up your absurd claim with scripture or recant.

Hey hey hey, back up there now, thought we had an understanding. I am not a moron or making false statements. The big bang theory is well documented and accepted to be the start of things.

[richard dawkins idiot son]

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After the Big Bang, the Universe was an incredibly hot fireball, expanding to create the Universe we see around us today. In the beginning though, space was jam-packed full of tiny particles. Light couldn't travel anywhere: it was immediately halted by all the particles that were flying around. So space was completely opaque, a concept which is very hard for us to imagine, as we are used to being able to see everything around us.
But after 300,000 years, the Universe had cooled to about the same temperature as the surface of the Sun. This was when particles began to join to form atoms. Atoms don't interfere with light, letting it travel by unimpeded. So gradually light began to pour through the Universe.
The afterglow from this momentous event formed a bright halo, whose light then began gradually to filter down through space and time. As we look out into space we also look back into time. If it were possible to see out this far, this cosmic halo would form the furthest visible point in the Universe. Everything beyond this, from the birth of the Universe until this epoch of 'first light' will be invisible to us forever

But if we can't see it then how do we know that it's there? In 1963, two astronomers, Arno Penzias and Robert Wilson, chanced across a mysterious signal, later called 'the cosmic microwave background', or CMB for short. This signal is the leftover energy from this historic cosmic event. An event so powerful that its effects filtered all the way through space and time and can still be detected today. You can even see it for yourself - the fuzzy interference that appears on your untuned TV set is the signature from the early Universe.
When astronomers measured this signal in different directions, they saw that it was stronger in some areas than others. This is due to the fact that in the early Universe atoms weren't spread out evenly, so light flooded across the Universe in uneven ripples. There have been many recent projects, such as BOOMERanG and MAXIMA, which involved sending balloons above the Earth's atmosphere to measure these ripples in the CMB. Astronomers can then create a map of the early Universe and see how matter evolved into galaxies. Not only that, but by measuring this pattern across all of the sky, astronomers can calculate the shape and size of the whole Universe. Doing this will help to crack one of the greatest mysteries of all time - the fate of the Universe

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

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Her is some scripture for you...

The Big Bang theory

Whoa! See that word? “Theory”? God’s Word is LAW. God 15 - RDIS love

In essence, it is a theory that was created to explain two facts that we know about the Universe - it is gradually expanding and cooling.

You scientists are truly confused, you say the universe is cooling andyou say there is Global Warming – make up your minds! God 30 - RDIS love

In the 1920s, Edwin Hubble found that galaxies far from our own Milky Way are moving away from us.

If you want to believe the word of someone who went around in women's clothes and thought his pet Iguana was Jesus, I can’t stop you.God 40 - RDIS love

In the 1960s Arno Panzias and Robert Wilson detected the afterglow of the Big Bang, known as the CMB

That was static from a local AM radio station, it’s a well-known fact. Game, set and match to God. (Applause from the Godly audience and choir invisible.)

Hey hey hey, back up there now, thought we had an understanding. I am not a mormon or making false statements. The big bang theory is well documented and accepted to be the start of things.

I assure you it is not half so “well documented” as KJV1611.

[Nobar King]

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Where did you plagiarize all that from?

[James Hutchins]

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Hey hey hey, back up there now, thought we had an understanding. I am not a mormon or making false statements. The big bang theory is well documented and accepted to be the start of things.

I explained to you that if you go against the Church, do not be disappointed. Re-read the other thread again. You may not be as smart as I thought you were. At the very least, hanging with Dawkins is a bad choice. Guilt by association.

You are a moron and you are making false statements and you know it or you would back it up with scripture.

[WWJDnow]

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After the Big Bang, the Universe was an incredibly hot fireball... Light couldn't travel anywhere: it was immediately halted by all the particles that were flying around. So space was completely opaque, a concept which is very hard for us to imagine....

You've got the dates wrong, but the sequence of events you described is correct:

In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. Genesis 1:1-2

Light only came after the initial act of creation:

And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. Genesis 1:3-4

In 1963, two astronomers, Arno Penzias and Robert Wilson, chanced across a mysterious signal, later called 'the cosmic microwave background', or CMB for short. This signal is the leftover energy from this historic cosmic event.

GLORY!!! Penzias and Wilson have proved that Genesis 1 was correct! They should win the Nobel Prize for this.

[PlanetF1]

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I explained to you that if you go against the Church, do not be disappointed. Re-read the other thread again. You may not be as smart as I thought you were. At the very least, hanging with Dawkins is a bad choice. Guilt by association.

You are a moron and you are making false statements and you know it or you would back it up with scripture.

I'm not hanging with anybody, but admittedly threads he/she's on do tend to be interesting.