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  • Re: Gravity destroys your morals!

    Originally posted by Alkalai View Post
    Makes no sense. I just explained it. How does it not exist?
    If there's nothing making it happen, and it doesn't come from anywhere, and it might not even happen at all, then it doesn't exist.

    Might as well pray to Random.

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    • Re: Gravity destroys your morals!

      Originally posted by Pim Pendergast View Post
      Well, at least you're honest about it. Unlike most of the atheists who come on this forum trying to deceive us.

      How about being honest about karma? You have defined karma in your mind. But this is how karma is defined:

      I definitely don't think you believe in definitions 3 & 4. And from what you've said before I don't think you believe in definitions 1 & 2. So is what you believe really karma?

      You can probably find some logical beliefs in just about any religion. But religions like buddhism expect you to stop thinking and just blindly follow all its teachings, whether logical or not.

      Again, most religions teach inner peace and change. What makes buddhism so special? Who says you can't find inner peace some other way?

      But I don't think they are the same beliefs. I previously quoted to you some Bible verses that support the idea that what goes around comes around.

      If you agree with these verses, would you say that you believed both atheism and Christianity? Why not say that you believe atheism and hinduism, which also teaches karma? Only you don't really believe karma because you've admitted that sometimes things happen to people that they seemingly don't deserve.

      Eccl 9:11 I returned, and saw under the sun, that the race is not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, neither yet bread to the wise, nor yet riches to men of understanding, nor yet favour to men of skill; but time and chance happeneth to them all.

      1 Cor 9:16 Yea, woe is unto me, if I preach not the gospel!

      "You climb a tree. Is there a chance you will fall off the tree because you decided to climb it? Yes. Does this mean that you will fall off it? No, but there's a chance it will happen now that you climbed the tree."

      Karma as explained to me by a Buddhist monk. The possibility that a consequence will come to pass because of an action you committed. Needs a new label maybe?

      Not saying Buddhism is the only way to achieve inner peace. It's one way, and I happened to choose this way. Also not saying Christianity can't be a way. I never argue with normal Christians. It's this particular branch that's just wrong, on so many levels. Buddhism does not teach you to blindly follow while Christianity does.

      Buddhism agrees with my views far more than Christianity or any other religion, so that's pretty much why.

      And you used the Bible to explain why you believe in the Bible. Same conundrum, try again.

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      • Re: Gravity destroys your morals!

        Originally posted by Alkalai View Post
        Makes no sense. I just explained it made it up as I went along. How does it not exist?
        You don't get to just make stuff up and say it exists. This is why God will never be real to you. You just make stuff up because you want it to be true so you assume that's what happened with God.

        There's no way something as perfect and consistent for all time as God could have been made up by people writing a storybook. It just doesn't make sense. Why else would you be here to mock us? You just want to reinforce your own pathetic, fictional beliefs by rubbishing ours.
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        Isaiah 34:6 The sword of the LORD is filled with blood, it is made fat with fatness, and with the blood of lambs and goats, with the fat of the kidneys of rams: for the LORD hath a sacrifice in Bozrah, and a great slaughter in the land of Idumea.

        John 5:46,47 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me. But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

        Join me in scoffing at backwards Muslims clinging to their beliefs in the face of the evidence!
        The truth about volcanos
        Sex and debauchery in public schools
        Faith wins over science (explained for even the very stupid)
        God Cures AIDS - GLORY!
        Desert whale bones prove Great Flood once and for all.

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        • Re: Gravity destroys your morals!

          Originally posted by Redeemed Papist View Post
          You don't get to just make stuff up and say it exists. This is why God will never be real to you. You just make stuff up because you want it to be true so you assume that's what happened with God.

          There's no way something as perfect and consistent for all time as God could have been made up by people writing a storybook. It just doesn't make sense. Why else would you be here to mock us? You just want to reinforce your own pathetic, fictional beliefs by rubbishing ours.


          Even if I was making stuff up, it would still be better than letting someone else make stuff up for me and believing every word of it, which is what you're doing.

          Time to get in touch with reality, even if it's probably too late for you.

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          • Re: Gravity destroys your morals!

            Originally posted by Alkalai View Post
            Even if I was making stuff up, it would still be better than letting someone else make stuff up for me and believing every word of it, which is what you're doing.

            Time to get in touch with reality, even if it's probably too late for you.
            Yeah, sorry, I forgot, there's some mystical force making children get shot by mad gunmen because they did something to deserve it in your "philosophy"

            Can't you even hear how wrong that is? Proper looney tunes stuff.
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            Isaiah 34:6 The sword of the LORD is filled with blood, it is made fat with fatness, and with the blood of lambs and goats, with the fat of the kidneys of rams: for the LORD hath a sacrifice in Bozrah, and a great slaughter in the land of Idumea.

            John 5:46,47 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me. But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

            Join me in scoffing at backwards Muslims clinging to their beliefs in the face of the evidence!
            The truth about volcanos
            Sex and debauchery in public schools
            Faith wins over science (explained for even the very stupid)
            God Cures AIDS - GLORY!
            Desert whale bones prove Great Flood once and for all.

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            • Re: Gravity destroys your morals!

              Originally posted by Redeemed Papist View Post
              Yeah, sorry, I forgot, there's some mystical force making children get shot by mad gunmen because they did something to deserve it in your "philosophy"

              Can't you even hear how wrong that is? Proper looney tunes stuff.
              Learn to read. I've been over this with the sane people on these forums.

              And even that isn't as delusional as the idea that the earth is flat or that whites are superior.

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              • Re: Gravity destroys your morals!

                Originally posted by Alkalai View Post
                Learn to read. I've been over this with the sane people on these forums.

                And even that isn't as delusional as the idea that the earth is flat or that whites are superior.
                Name 50 things that you use every day that non-whites invented.

                If you say peanut butter or algebra...watch out.



                You have 5 minutes.

                YiC,

                Zech
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                • Re: Gravity destroys your morals!

                  Originally posted by Zechariah Smyth View Post
                  Name 50 things that you use every day that non-whites invented.

                  If you say peanut butter or algebra...watch out.



                  You have 5 minutes.

                  YiC,

                  Zech
                  I just know he's going to try and say they invented Elvis music or something...
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                  Isaiah 34:6 The sword of the LORD is filled with blood, it is made fat with fatness, and with the blood of lambs and goats, with the fat of the kidneys of rams: for the LORD hath a sacrifice in Bozrah, and a great slaughter in the land of Idumea.

                  John 5:46,47 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me. But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

                  Join me in scoffing at backwards Muslims clinging to their beliefs in the face of the evidence!
                  The truth about volcanos
                  Sex and debauchery in public schools
                  Faith wins over science (explained for even the very stupid)
                  God Cures AIDS - GLORY!
                  Desert whale bones prove Great Flood once and for all.

                  Comment


                  • Re: Gravity destroys your morals!

                    Originally posted by Zechariah Smyth View Post
                    Name 50 things that you use every day that non-whites invented.

                    If you say peanut butter or algebra...watch out.



                    You have 5 minutes.

                    YiC,

                    Zech
                    Paper. Language. I don't think I even regularly use 50 things every day. Why is this restriction here exactly? Inventions that I haven't personally used affect all our lives as well.

                    And even if whites have contributed more, it doesn't mean they're a superior race. China's on the road to be the leading world superpower, how exactly are you going to be able to proclaim yourselves superior then?

                    And even if the best person on Earth was white, doesn't mean you idiots aren't the dregs of society. Which you are.

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                    • Re: Gravity destroys your morals!

                      Originally posted by Zechariah Smyth View Post
                      Name 50 things that you use every day that non-whites invented.

                      If you say peanut butter or algebra...watch out.



                      You have 5 minutes.

                      YiC,

                      Zech
                      the Bible?
                      Deuteronomy 22:10 Thou shalt not plow with an ox and an ass together.

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                      • Re: Gravity destroys your morals!

                        Originally posted by Alkalai View Post
                        ...China's on the road to be the leading world superpower...
                        *sigh* Ok, now we can economics to the list of things you have no clue about.

                        Do really think that all of the people at the top of the US government are absolutely clueless? Why aren't they in an absolute panic about the levels of debt they've built up (yes, a lot of it is to China, but most is to themselves and their own citizens)?

                        If any of their creditors dare to call in any more of that debt than the US gov't is willing to deal with at that time, they're just going to re-value their currency (all US public debt is in US dollars, neat trick) and *poof* there goes anything of actual value in that debt. Either that, or just default (as has been done many many times, see Greece, Chile, Argentina, Spain, Portugal, Ireland, Iceland, Germany [both East and West and combined], etc.) and pay NOTHING.

                        Everyone knows this, and knows that if anyone is stupid enough to force the US to even think about doing something like, they'll screw their own economies over, as badly or even worse than what would happen to the US economy (outright default? couple of years to pay off a token amount and then you're right back where you started, with a clean balance sheet no less), so no one says boo.

                        Think about the concept of money in the first place. Is that piece of paper in your hand actually worth anything? No. The only value it holds is in the belief of others that it's worth something. The balance in your bank account is just bits in a computer memory, worth even less until someone else thinks that they're worth something.

                        China's more than happy to keep collecting interest on the US debt they own, and to keep the charade going. If they ever did anything else, they'd lose the #1 market for their exports, there go the jobs making the crap to export, and here comes another Chinese revolution powered by 200 million+ unemployed, and there go the people running China right now off to the firing squad (and over there, they give you bullets, not a pink slip).

                        You have the right (as a citizen of a Western democracy) to be a fuggin idjit. What you don't have the right to is to pronounce all of your delusions (based mostly on ignorance and paranoia) as truth and not be called out for the idjit you are.

                        This has been a public service announcement from Didymus Much. We now return you to our regularly scheduled programming already in progress...

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                        • Re: Gravity destroys your morals!

                          Originally posted by Redeemed Papist View Post
                          Yeah, sorry, I forgot, there's some mystical force making children get shot by mad gunmen because they did something to deserve it in your "philosophy"

                          Can't you even hear how wrong that is? Proper looney tunes stuff.
                          It's interesting to me to see some people, when faced with the Truth©, simply cannot comprehend it. It's almost as if God has hardened its heart, but it's probably a matter of demons infecting its mind. Poor thing, I keep praying for it but there seems to be no improvement.

                          Hello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.

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                          • Re: Gravity destroys your morals!

                            Originally posted by Mary Etheldreda View Post
                            It's interesting to me to see some people, when faced with the Truth©, simply cannot comprehend it. It's almost as if God has hardened its heart, but it's probably a matter of demons infecting its mind. Poor thing, I keep praying for it but there seems to be no improvement.

                            You are making no sense, woman.
                            Deuteronomy 22:10 Thou shalt not plow with an ox and an ass together.

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                            • Re: Gravity destroys your morals!

                              Originally posted by Didymus Much View Post
                              *sigh* Ok, now we can economics to the list of things you have no clue about.

                              Do really think that all of the people at the top of the US government are absolutely clueless? Why aren't they in an absolute panic about the levels of debt they've built up (yes, a lot of it is to China, but most is to themselves and their own citizens)?

                              If any of their creditors dare to call in any more of that debt than the US gov't is willing to deal with at that time, they're just going to re-value their currency (all US public debt is in US dollars, neat trick) and *poof* there goes anything of actual value in that debt. Either that, or just default (as has been done many many times, see Greece, Chile, Argentina, Spain, Portugal, Ireland, Iceland, Germany [both East and West and combined], etc.) and pay NOTHING.

                              Everyone knows this, and knows that if anyone is stupid enough to force the US to even think about doing something like, they'll screw their own economies over, as badly or even worse than what would happen to the US economy (outright default? couple of years to pay off a token amount and then you're right back where you started, with a clean balance sheet no less), so no one says boo.

                              Think about the concept of money in the first place. Is that piece of paper in your hand actually worth anything? No. The only value it holds is in the belief of others that it's worth something. The balance in your bank account is just bits in a computer memory, worth even less until someone else thinks that they're worth something.

                              China's more than happy to keep collecting interest on the US debt they own, and to keep the charade going. If they ever did anything else, they'd lose the #1 market for their exports, there go the jobs making the crap to export, and here comes another Chinese revolution powered by 200 million+ unemployed, and there go the people running China right now off to the firing squad (and over there, they give you bullets, not a pink slip).

                              You have the right (as a citizen of a Western democracy) to be a fuggin idjit. What you don't have the right to is to pronounce all of your delusions (based mostly on ignorance and paranoia) as truth and not be called out for the idjit you are.

                              This has been a public service announcement from Didymus Much. We now return you to our regularly scheduled programming already in progress...
                              Overcomplicating much? I just painted a very possible scenario, based on China's growing economy- might become the world's largest-, growing military, and high population(should help.).

                              Name one instance where I was paranoid.
                              And are you on the side that whites are superior? Because you seem to have avoided that argument entirely.

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                              • Re: Gravity destroys your morals!

                                Originally posted by Alkalai View Post
                                Overcomplicating much?...
                                Oversimplified, if anything.

                                ...I just painted a very possible scenario, based on China's growing economy- might become the world's largest...
                                On GDP basis, inevitably; per capita, gonna be a looong time before they're even close.

                                ...And are you on the side that whites are superior?...
                                Nice loaded question. If say yes, I'm racist, if I say no, that means I think someone else is superior and I'm still racist.

                                Have you stopped beating your wife yet?

                                ... Because you seem to have avoided that argument entirely.
                                What does that tell you?

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