[True Disciple]

Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science!

ok first I would like to start by saying I am not athiest, I am agnostic (how ever that is spelt),

"Agnostic" is spelled correctly here, "atheist" is not. Like many words are not, in fact. As a heathen, you undoubtedly use Firefox, and you can find an American dictionary here.

I do not believe as I see no evidence that cannot be explained more logically that there is some sort of higher being or god.

John 20:29:
Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.

secondly, I'm not here to ahve a go at christianity, i respect religion and those who practice it aslong as they do not force their beliefs onto other people, i follow this philosophy with all people.

Then why are you trying to force your science worship upon us? Rather hypocritical then, to disrespect other people for pushing their beliefs.

third, guys, seriously, i like the idea of your authentication thing, with the missing word from some random part of the bible, but i got past it using google

Amazing! Why has no one thought of that before!?

the reason we believe this at the moment is because we have evidence supporting it, in the forms of chemistry, atmoic physics, quantem mechanics etc, and they all exist because the theory's are strong and make sense, they produce quantative predictions, things we can count and such.

Apparently, you've missed my point about the Law of Conservation of Mass. In fact, I said in my essay that Satan disproved this theory again when he came up with quantum physics. Of course, secular science never tries to actually throw either the Law of Conservation of Mass or quantum physics out, despite the fact that the latter contradicts the former.

whats your evidence that you use to sink 300 years worth of research? a book that was supposibly written a few thousand years ago

The Bible was written in 1611, but was the result of thousands of years of documenting what God told to document. As you can see, secular science is the result of only a few hundred years of research. This is another point that favors the Bible over secular science.

secondly, seriously, fly me a plane to one of the earths corners and push me off if you can prove that its flat,

I'm afraid I cannot do that:

Exodus 20:13:
Thou shalt not kill.

how would you explain the way the satelite that allows you to read this and dismiss it to work if it did not ORBIT the earth, then north pole and south pole, obviously if the earth was flat their strengths would be weaker at the edges and such, are they?

They do not orbit the earth. That idea is a hoax, perpetrated by NASA. They move in circles, but in the same plane as the Earth, on a constant height.

noooope, whats your proof against it? a few quotes from a 5 thousand year old book, that against hundreds of peoples dedicated research over 600 years which has constantly been updated, i dont think so

Which constantly changes, and always is disagreed on, you mean.

And the Bible is written through men, but by God:

2 Peter 1:20-21:
Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

Do you really think that those "scientists," who always say contradictory thinks and never agree on something, know it better than the Holy Ghost? You are a funny guy!

I'd love to see that because within 2 weeks you would have no mroe skin, your brain would have fried and you would be nothing, we can prove this

(though personally i know jack all about genetics),

Ah, okay, now I understand!

your proof against it? a book, our proof for it? the amount of healing this research has done (and before you say its the work of god, think of the medical care that has been provided to sinners like myself? im still here and i have so many years ahead of me

Of course, we all know witchcraft can heal people. Why should "medical science" be any different?

The best way, however, is to pray:

Mark 5:34:
And he said unto her, Daughter, thy faith hath made thee whole; go in peace, and be whole of thy plague.

linguistics, seriously is that science? i didnt know, well since im getting tired go translate this

to lazy to write mah japanese, another day

I do not understand what you are trying to say here.

radiometric dating? i reckon its pretty sweet, and i spent a whole day at government institutions learning about this,

Wow! So you're an expert on this!

the general way to do it is to analyse (using a mass spectromitor)

I thought I already disproved this. Mass spectrometers sometimes fail, in which case scientists genuine their results, but other times do not fail, because Satan mingles with the stuff. Again, the idea of radiometric dating is dependent on the existence of atoms. Have you ever seen atoms? No one has. Then why do you believe in atoms, and not in God? For God, at least, we have accounts of people who saw Him.

ive seen it in action and it is pretty accurate, so radiometric dating has working evidence and examples to support it, your book has nothing but text

You've seen it work? You mean you've seen some lines on a screen, which were then interpreted as isotopic abundances? And you believed all the silly things those science worshippers told you about them? You are a gullible person.

In addition, even if the method worked like the scientists claim, then there still is the changing decay rates over time, which would be largely influenced by the Great Flood.

Finally, recently deposited volcanic material was dated anywhere between 0.35 million and 2.8 million years, using the "K-Ar" method. That, of course, is definite proof that radiometric dating is a tool of the devil.

phycietry? not my field, but what you jsut said reminds me of another religionish thingo, im leavfing it at that

What is the purpose of this sentence?

im getting exhausted here!

That's why you shouldn't masturbate when you're posting. Firstly, it is an abomination before God, secondly, it will exhaust you, and thirdly, typing with one hand doesn't make your spelling and grammar improve much.

Gravity: we cant really explain gravity at the moment, is it a bend in space/time (imagine a hole in the ground, everything that falls in it is going to go down right? kinda imagine that in 3 dimensions, i know I cant) or maybe its gravitons? I think we have evidence for both theories at the moment, again, not my area but yea, more than a few quotes

The red sentence says it all. Gravitons are just a hopeless idea by lying scientists to cover up the holes in this theory. Of course, they do not exist: Jesus makes matter fall down. Did you follow the link I gave to my essay about gravity?

heliocetristhingamaboby? go research galileo a bit mate,the amount of evidence we have towards this, this is something we have proof of, i wish we were the centre of the universe aswell, believe me, it would be sweet cause when the big crunch comes, we'll be the last ones here , but alas tis not true, theres this great picture about scale on the net somewhere, go search it up!

Is this supposed to be evidence?

(my arguemnents are detereorating with my strength, but bear with me here)

So is your spelling, friend. Why don't you just accept that you can't answer these Truths, and accept Jesus?

Germs? I loooooove your satan explination for this, it kicks ass, but have you guys very been sick? out of all the people on this forum, do you know someone who has had skin cancer? well thats less abvout germs, but a germ has been recoded to fight skin cancer, would ya believe it? all those sinners with skin cancer will be cured by satan himself wearing a different hat!

Of course Satan heals people, if he can use that to draw that people and his family away from Christianity. He is a very ingenious character.

evidence, the fact your alive

What? So because I'm alive, germs exist? Are you saying I'm a germ?

and also the fact that we are all going to be killed by a multi-resistant organism in a few years time, proof against, satan making facfes under a microscope, real mature

The fact we are going to be killed? Since when are you able to look into the future, that you declare this to be a fact? Do you realize how stupid that sounds?

now number one, how I love you so. Darwins theory of evolution via natural selection! you are my hero

Could you please commit your science worship elsewhere? This is a decent, Christian forum, you know!

without you, we would have thumbs,

I do have thumbs, in fact. Does this explain why you make so many spelling mistakes?

we would probebly still be pondscum in some primordial ozze a few billion years ago,

Without Darwin's theory, we would travel billions of years back in time? How is that supposed to make sense?

the majot evidence towards this is the fact we can demonstrate it in certain organisms, pretty cool tests, kiddies, research them. i would write a nother fewq thousand words on this but its near my bed time

Yes, I was wondering that. Do your parents know that you are posting?

but do you have any evidence towards the fact that one does besides a book of observations that seemed logical at the time?

no I'm sorry to say, you dont.

Do you have any proof for your theories, besides science?

No, I'm sorry to say, you don't.

Now please explain to me why the opinion of your religion (secular science) would trump the opinion of mine?

your church was built and stays up because of the laws of science.

No, it doesn't. Our church is held up by God's Care:

Matthew 6:31-32:
Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed? (For after all these things do the Gentiles seek for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things.

Please believe, its great you ahve some purpos in life, but do not force your illogical theories onto other people WITH OUT ANY EVIDENCE

I have backed everything I said up with Biblical Evidence, boy. Don't lie now.

[Felicity]

Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science!

@Tukasait it makes me sad you do not love Jesus. If you would love Jesus you could go to Heaven with us! #Psalm 9:17

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science!

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[Tukasa]

Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science!

ok first I would like to start by saying I am not athiest, I am agnostic (how ever that is spelt), I do not believe as I see no evidence that cannot be explained more logically that there is some sort of higher being or god.

secondly, I'm not here to ahve a go at christianity, i respect religion and those who practice it aslong as they do not force their beliefs onto other people, i follow this philosophy with all people.

third, guys, seriously, i like the idea of your authentication thing, with the missing word from some random part of the bible, but i got past it using google

now, down to business

before I start I want to put down some ground rules to how science works, science is not about proving things, its about creating an accurate way to explain a phenomenon, also known as a theory, theory's must make predictions that are testable and for a theory to be accepted, it must have evidence. the reason we keep testing theories is because we know that a single piece of evidence that doesnt correlate with the theory will prove it wrong and then a more accurate theory will be created in its place.

ok first, Atomic theory. the current theory has come from the ashes of all those before it, saying an atom was a small particle made of an electron i believe, to its current model of the nucleus made of protons and neutrons with electrons orbiting it, the amount of each determines its element, behaviours, mass (which we cant explain yet) and is the reason we have water (h_2 O), we can breath (the intake of O_2 which combines with Carbon to make C O_2 which is removed from our body). the reason we believe this at the moment is because we have evidence supporting it, in the forms of chemistry, atmoic physics, quantem mechanics etc, and they all exist because the theory's are strong and make sense, they produce quantative predictions, things we can count and such. whats your evidence that you use to sink 300 years worth of research? a book that was supposibly written a few thousand years ago

secondly, seriously, fly me a plane to one of the earths corners and push me off if you can prove that its flat, how would you explain the way the satelite that allows you to read this and dismiss it to work if it did not ORBIT the earth, then north pole and south pole, obviously if the earth was flat their strengths would be weaker at the edges and such, are they? noooope, whats your proof against it? a few quotes from a 5 thousand year old book, that against hundreds of peoples dedicated research over 600 years which has constantly been updated, i dont think so

genetics, its getting a bit late here so im gunna keep it quick, give up genetics, i dont give a shit (excuse my langauge), I'd love to see that because within 2 weeks you would have no mroe skin, your brain would have fried and you would be nothing, we can prove this (though personally i know jack all about genetics), your proof against it? a book, our proof for it? the amount of healing this research has done (and before you say its the work of god, think of the medical care that has been provided to sinners like myself? im still here and i have so many years ahead of me

linguistics, seriously is that science? i didnt know, well since im getting tired go translate this

to lazy to write mah japanese, another day


radiometric dating? i reckon its pretty sweet, and i spent a whole day at government institutions learning about this, before you slag radiometric dating mate, bloody learn about it! "hey mister atom, how old are ya", "im 50 million years old". thats not how it works, there are a tone of different ways to do it, but the general way to do it is to analyse (using a mass spectromitor) how many of an objects c-16 (i thinik its 16) attoms have decayed, then put that against the decay of known objects and we can date it, now c-16 only works for 50,000 years because of the carbon cycle (google it, bloody brilliant scientist explained it to me) but you can use other atoms decays (something starting with r comes to mind but i forgot it), best thing is it friggin works! ive seen it in action and it is pretty accurate, so radiometric dating has working evidence and examples to support it, your book has nothing but text

phycietry? not my field, but what you jsut said reminds me of another religionish thingo, im leavfing it at that

im getting exhausted here!

Gravity: we cant really explain gravity at the moment, is it a bend in space/time (imagine a hole in the ground, everything that falls in it is going to go down right? kinda imagine that in 3 dimensions, i know I cant) or maybe its gravitons? I think we have evidence for both theories at the moment, again, not my area but yea, more than a few quotes

heliocetristhingamaboby? go research galileo a bit mate,the amount of evidence we have towards this, this is something we have proof of, i wish we were the centre of the universe aswell, believe me, it would be sweet cause when the big crunch comes, we'll be the last ones here , but alas tis not true, theres this great picture about scale on the net somewhere, go search it up! (my arguemnents are detereorating with my strength, but bear with me here)


Germs? I loooooove your satan explination for this, it kicks ass, but have you guys very been sick? out of all the people on this forum, do you know someone who has had skin cancer? well thats less abvout germs, but a germ has been recoded to fight skin cancer, would ya believe it? all those sinners with skin cancer will be cured by satan himself wearing a different hat! evidence, the fact your alive and also the fact that we are all going to be killed by a multi-resistant organism in a few years time, proof against, satan making facfes under a microscope, real mature

now number one, how I love you so. Darwins theory of evolution via natural selection! you are my hero <3 without you, we would have thumbs, we would probebly still be pondscum in some primordial ozze a few billion years ago, the majot evidence towards this is the fact we can demonstrate it in certain organisms, pretty cool tests, kiddies, research them. i would write a nother fewq thousand words on this but its near my bed time

now in clossing I apologise for the shite spelling, its just who I am

the logic in all of this is that we have rock hard evidence, quantative and expressible in equations, science doesnt hate religion, though their are those in science who do, there area also many religious people in there aswell (im not joking!), im not insulting your belief in a god, as i cannot dissprove it, but do you have any evidence towards the fact that one does besides a book of observations that seemed logical at the time?

no I'm sorry to say, you dont.

the only problem I have here is that you wont accept that, you can believe in your god, sure, but you must atleast alknowledge the evidence that is being shown to you about science, without science, you would proebly still be sitting in a cave somewhere, that computer your on, science, that food you are crazing to eat involves science, your church was built and stays up because of the laws of science. Please believe, its great you ahve some purpos in life, but do not force your illogical theories onto other people WITH OUT ANY EVIDENCE

[True Disciple]

Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science!

YOU!
Get off my internet!

This is a place of science!
And porn, but considering there's too many people on the planet...

Never mind:

Go forth and multiply!

Is there any point in particular that you want to make? Or are you just talking again to the purple gnomes that inhabit the drawer with your socks in it?

[Jocelyn Carolyn]

Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science!

@ReXChrist my father says porn is very bad . Why do you not Jesus?

[ReXChrist]

Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science!

YOU!
Get off my internet!

This is a place of science!
And porn, but considering there's too many people on the planet...

Never mind:

Go forth and multiply!

[Jeb Stuart Thurmond]

Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science!

#3 Heliocentrism

- Conflicting Scientific data:

- Psalm 104:5:
Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be removed for ever.

The scientific data on this is so overwhelming I don't even know where to start.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science!

Works of fiction are permissible in their own way and where they are Godly. Let this be a lesson to keep away from the List of Banned Books. It is for your own good.

[IsaacJeremiah]

Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science!

people and pineapples can make babies together

I stupidly once read his foolish creation 'origin of the species' - it was the chapter on this that made me laugh the most at his idiocy.

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science!

Sciene goes on about direct observation, consenuses and yet they always toss the Holy Bible out. How can they claim to working on concensous when they refuse God His invisible place at the table? Ok secularists, explain to me why a supernatural, undetectable and undefinable source is invalid?

[The Hand]

Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science!

If only the men of science would use The Bible, like we do, as a lens to view the universe with. Then they would solve all the mysteries of science in one reading.

[True Disciple]

Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science!

Yes, Cranky, the end is near. Not only the rapture, but the dishonest application of science.

Thank you for your input, mayor. And now that we are talking of it, currently we are developing new textbooks for the few public schools we have here in Freehold. This overview will be the guideline for the part about pseudoscience.

I was wondering, can we introduce these textbooks in Freehold just with your permission, or do we first need permission of the Board of Education of Iowa for that?

[Johny Joe Hold]

Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science!

An excellent compilation Brother True Disciple. I hope this will shut down all those false scientists for once and for all!

Yes, Cranky, the end is near. Not only the rapture, but the dishonest application of science.

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science!

An excellent compilation Brother True Disciple. I hope this will shut down all those false scientists for once and for all!