[Seth Campbell]

Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy

You assume I haven't?

I'm assuming you've read the bits and pieces that some liebral church gave to you. They also seem to have taught you that the WORD doesn't mean what the WORD says.

But hey, as I said, you go right ahead and play your word games, see how well they stand up on the day of Judgement.

[Fencepost88]

Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy

You assume I haven't?

[Seth Campbell]

Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy

Instead of playing semantics, why don't you get on your knee's and ask Jesus into your heart?

[Fencepost88]

Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy

And you're quote is from the Bible then?

No.

You really have a problem with reading comprehension, don't you.

No.

Your cakemix evolves does it? Not the brightest bulb in the box, are you.

Yes. lookup the definition of evolution, the basic definition not the scientific one. Though I you're right, this doesn't prove my point. more aptly if God wanted evolution to take six days I think it would take six days.

Revelation 12:9

If peradventure this chapter refers to the same serpent as Genesis then it completely contradicts the story of Genesis. Neglecting to mention of course that you would assert that a seven headed red dragon with ten horns and seven crowns becoming a serpent that crawls upon it's belly is not evolution.

Sorry who has a problem with reading comprehension?

So you admit to being a satanist.

No.

and yet you play word games with God. Do you think you are going to stump him when you are judged? Do you think playing semantics is going to get you into heaven? Think again.

You seem to think it's going to work for you.

[Seth Campbell]

Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy

Thankyou. exactly what I wanted, scripture that says death was the result of eating from the forbidden fruit. I even read Romans 5 to make sure it was referring to Adam. Of course this baffles me as to the need for a tree of life and the other points I made but 'Ours is not to wonder why...'

And you're quote is from the Bible then?

So you should reject God's creation that he has given you dominion over?
think you better read those chapters again.

You really have a problem with reading comprehension, don't you.

flour, eggs, sugar etc. > cakemix > cake. less than a day

Your cakemix evolves does it? Not the brightest bulb in the box, are you.

the waters brought forth abundant life, the earth brought forth life. explain to me how you got God making play-dough figures out of that? I know that's not what you said but I didn't say I got evolution from it. My point was there's scope there meaning to claim you know exactly how God did (or didn't do) it is to claim you know more than what the bible says.

Any scripture that says the snake is Satan?

Revelation 12:9

would I believe the snake? did he lie?

So you admit to being a satanist.

following the snake got us in a whole heap of trouble so it is doubtful that it's a good idea to follow him.

and yet you play word games with God. Do you think you are going to stump him when you are judged? Do you think playing semantics is going to get you into heaven? Think again.

[Fencepost88]

Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy

Romans 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

Thankyou. exactly what I wanted, scripture that says death was the result of eating from the forbidden fruit. I even read Romans 5 to make sure it was referring to Adam. Of course this baffles me as to the need for a tree of life and the other points I made but 'Ours is not to wonder why...'

Except you keep having to add you're own "common sense" into things. Trying to rectify the Bible with what the world is telling you. Does the Bible not tell us to reject the Worldly?

Leviticus 10:10 And that ye may put difference between holy and unholy, and between unclean and clean;

John 15:19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.

Romans 12:2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

So you should reject God's creation that he has given you dominion over?
think you better read those chapters again.

What kind of evolution takes only 6 days?

flour, eggs, sugar etc. > cakemix > cake. less than a day

Sounds like creation to me, explain how you get evolution out of that.

the waters brought forth abundant life, the earth brought forth life. explain to me how you got God making play-dough figures out of that? I know that's not what you said but I didn't say I got evolution from it. My point was there's scope there meaning to claim you know exactly how God did (or didn't do) it is to claim you know more than what the bible says.

So you believe Satan instead? You think the snake is the one to follow?

Genesis 3:4-6 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil. And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.

Any scripture that says the snake is Satan?

would I believe the snake? did he lie?

following the snake got us in a whole heap of trouble so it is doubtful that it's a good idea to follow him.

[Seth Campbell]

Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy

On the contrary I'm trying to understand your faith. As far as possible I'm trying to read the bible and understand it purely for what is said on the pages.

Except you keep having to add you're own "common sense" into things. Trying to rectify the Bible with what the world is telling you. Does the Bible not tell us to reject the Worldly?

Leviticus 10:10 And that ye may put difference between holy and unholy, and between unclean and clean;

John 15:19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.

Romans 12:2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

where did I argue against six days?

What kind of evolution takes only 6 days?

Genesis 1:3
And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

Genesis 1:11-12
And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good

Genesis 1:20-21
And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven. And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.



Genesis 1:24-25

And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.
And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

sorry what did he tell you?

Sounds like creation to me, explain how you get evolution out of that.

ok in the interest of not filtering

Genesis 2:17
But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

only reference I found to death being a punishment for eating the forbidden fruit.

reading the text literally Adam should have died the day he ate from the fruit.

Interpreted God took mercy, lied, thought man would be incapable of living with such knowledge inside of him any number of things.

So you believe Satan instead? You think the snake is the one to follow?

Genesis 3:4-6 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil. And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.

Again I say, Satan, get thee behind me!

Romans 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

[Fencepost88]

Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy

Why are you here other than to try and widdle away from our faith? You realize you're condemned to Hell and am attempting to take as many as you can with you?

On the contrary I'm trying to understand your faith. As far as possible I'm trying to read the bible and understand it purely for what is said on the pages.

The reason that evolution isn't real is because if God used evolution why does the Bible say that it took six days to create everything?

where did I argue against six days?

Why would God use evolution if he could just create things the way he wanted? In fact if he did use evolution, why would He tell us differently?

Genesis 1:3
And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

Genesis 1:11-12
And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good

Genesis 1:20-21
And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven. And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.



Genesis 1:24-25

And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.
And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

sorry what did he tell you?

Quit filtering the Bible, it is the HOLY WORD OF GOD! If you're going to pick and choose what you want to believe then you might as well toss it all aside and go join the heathens in their sodomy.

ok in the interest of not filtering

Genesis 2:17
But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

only reference I found to death being a punishment for eating the forbidden fruit.

reading the text literally Adam should have died the day he ate from the fruit.

Interpreted God took mercy, lied, thought man would be incapable of living with such knowledge inside of him any number of things.

[Seth Campbell]

Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy

I didn't say he needed it, I asked why it was impossible that he used it.

Genesis 18:14
Is any thing too hard for the LORD? At the time appointed I will return unto thee, according to the time of life, and Sarah shall have a son.



you misunderstand, when I said these points I was stating that death was in God's original design.



Show me where I said that.



Well done you actually seem to have been able to read and understand one of my statements.

Why are you here other than to try and widdle away from our faith? You realize you're condemned to Hell and am attempting to take as many as you can with you?

The reason that evolution isn't real is because if God used evolution why does the Bible say that it took six days to create everything? Why would God use evolution if he could just create things the way he wanted? In fact if he did use evolution, why would He tell us differently?

Quit filtering the Bible, it is the HOLY WORD OF GOD! If you're going to pick and choose what you want to believe then you might as well toss it all aside and go join the heathens in their sodomy.

[Fencepost88]

Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy

You're the one claiming that God somehow needed evilution, but we're the one's twisting Scripture?

I didn't say he needed it, I asked why it was impossible that he used it.

Genesis 18:14
Is any thing too hard for the LORD? At the time appointed I will return unto thee, according to the time of life, and Sarah shall have a son.

So God told us to be fruitful and multiply, I'm not sure how that "proves evolution".

you misunderstand, when I said these points I was stating that death was in God's original design.

He didn't say lizards should sleep with fish to produce monkeys. Show me where he said amoeba's should gang up together to produce everything else in the world.

Show me where I said that.

...Yet you claim that we're the one's twisting scripture.

Well done you actually seem to have been able to read and understand one of my statements.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy

I dissagree because it is not written in the scripture. I was under the impression you guys followed it to the letter and it is not subject to interpretation.

further I believe I read somewhere that if you feel we have twisted scripture please tell us how.

Gen. 3:1–7 ; Gen 3:12–13 ; Romans 1:18–21

[Seth Campbell]

Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy

I dissagree because it is not written in the scripture. I was under the impression you guys followed it to the letter and it is not subject to interpretation.

further I believe I read somewhere that if you feel we have twisted scripture please tell us how.

You're the one claiming that God somehow needed evilution, but we're the one's twisting Scripture?

So God told us to be fruitful and multiply, I'm not sure how that "proves evolution". He didn't say lizards should sleep with fish to produce monkeys. Show me where he said amoeba's should gang up together to produce everything else in the world. No the BIBLE clearly states that GOD created every living plant, animal, fungi, etc. and told them all to be fruitful and multiply. Perhaps He only made two of each type, I don't know, I wasn't there. I just know that the BIBLE tells us he created everything aproximately 6,000 years ago. Yet you claim that we're the one's twisting scripture.

Satan, get thee behind me.

[Fencepost88]

Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy

I dissagree because it is not written in the scripture. I was under the impression you guys followed it to the letter and it is not subject to interpretation.

further I believe I read somewhere that if you feel we have twisted scripture please tell us how.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy

your assumption that I'm trying to shake your faith is incorrect. I respect your faith, to a certain extent I envy your ability to have such faith.

I merely disagreed with your interpretation that it was eve abasing herself that brought death to the earth.

You disagree with this based on your own superstitions and imaginations. We have the Truth to show us the way and yet you will close tight your eyes and believe in your atheist religion anyway. What a waste of a soul.

[Fencepost88]

Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy

your assumption that I'm trying to shake your faith is incorrect. I respect your faith, to a certain extent I envy your ability to have such faith.

I merely disagreed with your interpretation that it was eve abasing herself that brought death to the earth.