[Fencepost88]

Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy

I see, so you are saying my grandfather was some sort of ape then! That is pretty offensive. My grandfather was not a primate, he was an imate. He was unjustly accused and executed. I expect an apology.

I fail to see how you drew that conclusion?

1. I never said they were apes

however I do apologise if I have caused any offence to you or your grandfather's memory.

[James Hutchins]

Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy

1. I never said they were apes
2. The commonly held opinion of evolution is not that we are descended from apes but that we share a common ancestor with apes.
3. to say there is no chance of something happening is to completely misunderstand the meaning of chance.



your kids look a little different because there is variation in their ancestry. i.e., you and your wife are not exact clones of each other, neither were your childrens grandparents and so on. Mutations happened along the way. Being by Gods hand does not change the fact that it was a mutation. If I made a cup of coffee would you deny that alterations were made to the base ingredients just because it might somehow detract from the fact that I made it?



Ok, someone did earlier, they said that Adam and Eve were the first and not the only humans implying there were other humans we could be descended from.



I think it gives credence to the idea that we are not God's original design of man, that is all, I am not trying to prove evolution right, I'm just curious as to why you're all so opposed to the idea when it is in the bible.

I think God will neglect to mention what he pleases. Do we have the right to know everything about his creation?

Genesis 1:26
And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

notice here how he 'neglects' to mention what his image is. You accuse me of making assumptions when I have not assumed anything, I refuse to make any kind of guess as to what the first man looked like but assuming he was an aryan caucasian is as bad as assuming he was a piece of slime.

And as you seem so kind to remind me of the same points over and over again, I do not believe Darwin's theory of evolution!

I see, so you are saying my grandfather was some sort of ape then! That is pretty offensive. My grandfather was not a primate, he was an imate. He was unjustly accused and executed. I expect an apology.

[Fencepost88]

Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy

...the bible was NOT meant to be taken literally. They are stories about how to live your life...

Semantically null. Anything that tells you what to do is meant to be taken literally.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy

Can you not all see that you CAN fit all this in with the Christian bible? All you need to do is see that the bible was NOT meant to be taken literally. They are stories about how to live your life. Disregarding science is ignorant, and anyone who tells you too is the real Satan.

Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself.

[Didymus Much]

Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy

...All you need to do is see that the bible was NOT meant to be taken literally...

*sigh* So how do you tell which bits are true and which aren't?

[thworral]

Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy

Can you not all see that you CAN fit all this in with the Christian bible? All you need to do is see that the bible was NOT meant to be taken literally. They are stories about how to live your life. Disregarding science is ignorant, and anyone who tells you too is the real Satan.

[Fencepost88]

Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy

Of course, God created all of us. There is only one God so you are correct.

There is no chance of eviloution, Adam and Eve (Noah too) were not apes. Like say 'pie in the sky'. You do not honestly beleive there is a steaming hot pie all sliced up waiting for you in the sky, do you?

1. I never said they were apes
2. The commonly held opinion of evolution is not that we are descended from apes but that we share a common ancestor with apes.
3. to say there is no chance of something happening is to completely misunderstand the meaning of chance.

So, my kids all look a little different because they are MUTANTS?



Too much X-Men, son. Waaaaaay too much.

YiC,

Zech

your kids look a little different because there is variation in their ancestry. i.e., you and your wife are not exact clones of each other, neither were your childrens grandparents and so on. Mutations happened along the way. Being by Gods hand does not change the fact that it was a mutation. If I made a cup of coffee would you deny that alterations were made to the base ingredients just because it might somehow detract from the fact that I made it?

Do you think you've achieved something????

We have never disputed what The Bible teaches: that we are all descended from Adam.

For the literacy-challenged “we are all descended from Adam” and “Adam was our common ancestor” both mean the same thing.

Ok, someone did earlier, they said that Adam and Eve were the first and not the only humans implying there were other humans we could be descended from.

Mitza,
He thinks that that gives credence to the idea that therefore our common ancestor that God neglected to mention was some fish and then, if you go back far enough, some slime.
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I think it gives credence to the idea that we are not God's original design of man, that is all, I am not trying to prove evolution right, I'm just curious as to why you're all so opposed to the idea when it is in the bible.

I think God will neglect to mention what he pleases. Do we have the right to know everything about his creation?

Genesis 1:26
And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

notice here how he 'neglects' to mention what his image is. You accuse me of making assumptions when I have not assumed anything, I refuse to make any kind of guess as to what the first man looked like but assuming he was an aryan caucasian is as bad as assuming he was a piece of slime.

And as you seem so kind to remind me of the same points over and over again, I do not believe Darwin's theory of evolution!

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy

Mitza,
He thinks that that gives credence to the idea that therefore our common ancestor that God neglected to mention was some fish and then, if you go back far enough, some slime.
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[MitzaLizalor]

Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy

so you agree that the Bible says we all come from a common ancestor?

Do you think you've achieved something????

We have never disputed what The Bible teaches: that we are all descended from Adam.

For the literacy-challenged “we are all descended from Adam” and “Adam was our common ancestor” both mean the same thing.

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy

Yes. that was my point.

so you agree that the Bible says we all come from a common ancestor?

further to that as we all don't look the same, changes (or mutations) must have happened along the way. as has been pointed out alot of these changes are explained in the bible, and those that are not have not necessarily been disputed by the bible i.e., evolution is in the bible. maybe not Darwin's theory in it's entirety but the bible says that there has been evolution of at least (so far as I have read) Humans and serpents.

So, my kids all look a little different because they are MUTANTS?



Too much X-Men, son. Waaaaaay too much.

YiC,

Zech

[James Hutchins]

Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy

Yes. that was my point.

so you agree that the Bible says we all come from a common ancestor?

further to that as we all don't look the same, changes (or mutations) must have happened along the way. as has been pointed out alot of these changes are explained in the bible, and those that are not have not necessarily been disputed by the bible i.e., evolution is in the bible. maybe not Darwin's theory in it's entirety but the bible says that there has been evolution of at least (so far as I have read) Humans and serpents.

Of course, God created all of us. There is only one God so you are correct.

There is no chance of eviloution, Adam and Eve (Noah too) were not apes. Like say 'pie in the sky'. You do not honestly beleive there is a steaming hot pie all sliced up waiting for you in the sky, do you?

[Didymus Much]

Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy

Yes. that was my point...

That if you redefine words to mean what you want them to mean instead of meaning what the rest of humanity has agreed are the actual meanings, then anything you say can be "true"?

Well, then, yes.

(Please note in the sentence above I redefined "true" to mean "false". If this causes you any confusion then you're just too stupid to follow the conversation).

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy

Yes. that was my point.

so you agree that the Bible says we all come from a common ancestor?

further to that as we all don't look the same, changes (or mutations) must have happened along the way. as has been pointed out alot of these changes are explained in the bible, and those that are not have not necessarily been disputed by the bible i.e., evolution is in the bible. maybe not Darwin's theory in it's entirety but the bible says that there has been evolution of at least (so far as I have read) Humans and serpents.

Aw come on.

How many freaking times do we have to go over and over the point the Bible holds that "mutations" are curses from God for sin? Serious, we have to do this about every page in these threads because so called "rationalists" like you such lazy, incurious, Anime frapping addicted idiots to be bothered to read an intro to Creationism. I really don't care if you accept the Bible's explanation (which doubtlessly as kind of twit you are, you will now write an easy on your personal fee's fees about it) but it's not to much to ask that you know The Bible says that, you ignoramus.

Really, you are getting to be waste of our time. Move it along or we will shut you up.

[Fencepost88]

Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy

Yes. that was my point.

so you agree that the Bible says we all come from a common ancestor?

further to that as we all don't look the same, changes (or mutations) must have happened along the way. as has been pointed out alot of these changes are explained in the bible, and those that are not have not necessarily been disputed by the bible i.e., evolution is in the bible. maybe not Darwin's theory in it's entirety but the bible says that there has been evolution of at least (so far as I have read) Humans and serpents.

[James Hutchins]

Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy

Friend, who is Noah descended from?

Imagine this, a catlick comes into your home on Christmas day, killing your entire family (all grandparents, parents, cousins, siblings and so on) in a massive bloody mess. Only you survive. Does not the family lineage, (ie, the lineage of Adam and Eve) still carry on?