[Redeemed Papist]

Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy

This may come as a shock to you but we know God isn't nice. That's what we've been trying to tell you. God wants you to do as you are told and stop asking idiot questions you can't possibly get an answer to about how and why He works the way He does.

Your mistake is expecting us to make apologies for this or fudge the issue. You've been spending too long around fluffy bunny Christians. The key to being a True Christian is to accept God's instructions without question and believe totally in Jesus as He is unambiguously described in the Bible.
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[davidbrainfart]

Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy

You know, there isn't one single solitary reason to believe any of that secular claptrap. And there is one big reason to accept the Word of God; The temporary death of Jesus Christ. His blood redeemed us all. That's good enough for me.

The "Unsaved Trash" on this board have offered all kinds of reasons to believe this "secular claptrap." I guess it's all yappity yap yap yap to you. As to accepting the "Word of God," by which I assume you mean the Bible, what is the source of your information about "the temporary death of Jesus Christ." Why the "Word of God," itself! Circular reasoning.

Seriously, are you a monkey worshiper? Do you also believe in "godzilla?"

Of course he's not. Neither am I. Why that would be as ridiculous as believing that the world is flat and Pi=3. This is a serious forum. Nobody on this board would be that silly!!

[davidbrainfart]

Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy

If you have to throw away practically all of modern science and technology to validate the Bible, isn't it at least worth pausing for a minute to consider that it might be this book, written thousands of years ago that is wrong?

No. And do tell, what parts of medical science, computer technology, physics, etc. (practically all of modern science and technology) do we have to "throw away"?

Did you read the list? You can't just excise parts of the scientific canon that you find inconvenient and expect the rest of it to stand together as a coherent system. Do actually believe that PI=3? Would you like to live in a house designed by an engineer who believes that?

Just out of curiosity, do you consider me a liar?"?

On what subject? On being 72, blah blah blah? Yes.

On hating God? No, I'm certain you hate God, and want us to turn our backs on Him so we may join you in your unending torment in His Lake of Fire.

Curiosity satisfied. The motivation for the question is the stereotype of atheists as liars. Yes I am in the October of my life, even if I have the maturity of a much younger man. I don't hate God any more than I hate Jupiter or Mars (the gods not the planets). I don't hate anything that doesn't exist, but if God did exist and y'all are right about him, I would hate him very much, although resistance would be futile.

Yours for the betterment of humankind
Dave
"Unsaved" but not trash

[davidbrainfart]

Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy

Muslims know that the Koran has too many contradicitions for anyone who's actually read it to believe, so they use swords, not words, to convert those infidels whom they don't just kill outright. You should ask your Muslim friends to name the US Imams who have publicly condemned suicide bombings in Israel. I'll give you good odds that they, like most people who don't actually have evidence to back up their claims, can't give you a single name.

Or maybe you should go straight to the source and read the Koran. It's a definite page turner, if you're into the genre of absurdist, internally inconsistent, reign-of-terror fantasy.

I haven't read the Koran, but I've read the Bible. I believe you when you say "the Koran has too many contradicitions for anyone who's actually read it to believe," yet they do. The same is true of the Bible. The geneologies of Jesus in Matthew and Luke are identical from Adam to King David, then they diverge and converge again on Joseph, who they identify as Jesus's father. This in turn contradicts the Biblical claim that Jesus is the son of God. Of course the authors of these gospels had access to King David's geneology in the Old Testament, but they didn't consult each other when they felt the need to expand that geneology to include Jesus.

The Bible is a real page turner, especially the Old Testament. When I read the Bible through at the age of fourteen I saw that God was constantly commanding the Jews to commit genocide upon their neighbors. When God turned Lot's wife into a pillar of salt for her curiosity, Lot fled into the wilderness with his daughters who got him drunk and got pregnant by him. Heady reading for an impressionable teenager.

But it wasn't the King James Version, so maybe the stories were different in the version I read.

Y'all be sure not to eat your hands, now.

[davidbrainfart]

Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy

How do you know that animals have souls and plants don't? Is your research peer reviewed?

I don't believe that any of us have souls apart from our body. The body and soul are one and when the body dies the soul dies with it. Not peer reviewed but if I were writing a Holy Book today, that is what I would say.

Pay no attention to the Bible quote below. I don't know how to get rid of it and if I tried, I'd probably incur some infraction points. It is appropriate to this discussion, however.

[WilliamJenningsBryan]

Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy

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There is moral as well as technological progress. We no longer practice slavery or keep women from voting. We are becoming more aware of gay rights. Your church is lagging on these issues.

Big Government and the "Nanny" State coupled with rampant socialism – the direct result of giving women the right to vote. High unemployment and widespread poverty – the direct result of the end of slavery. And what, pray tell, are the "rights" of gays that everyone else doesn't have. I wouldn't call that "progress".

[Ilovegodalot1]

Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy

YUCK! EVOLUTIONISTS ARE ALL JUST MORONS!

PRAISE GOD! RAISE:

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy

Obviously I don't believe the Bible is the word of God. It simply incorporates a moral code that evolved with us to help our ancestors survive.

If it 'evolved', why does it still say the same thing? The words aren't changing. That doesn't sound like 'evolution' to me!

There is moral as well as technological progress. We no longer practice slavery or keep women from voting. We are becoming more aware of gay rights. Your church is lagging on these issues.

No, Landover and my church both are holding true to God's Commands. The world is holding Satan's hand and turning its back on the Lord, and you think we should do the same.

I can only assume that you are working for Satan and want us to join you being burned alive for eternity in God's Lake of Fire.

No dice, kid.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy

Atheism is not hatred for God. I cannot hate what I don't believe exists. Obviously I don't believe the Bible is the word of God.

Even your own "psychiatrists" recognise that as "denial"

But if one does not acknowledge that they have the disorder, how can it be helped? Why would anyone want to be cured of a disorder that they do not believe they have?

..a good approach for persons in such denial is to point out that, even though they may not have the disorder, it is true that they have been treated by others as though they do have mental illness. They will usually agree with this thesis, especially if they have been hospitalized. Often these folks will accept being referred to with a term like, "survivor." Once they have accepted the fact that others may view them as mentally ill, they then have some motivation to learn more about the disorder.

It is generally best not to try to make a "frontal assault" against denial. Try to establish a trusting relationship and gradually chip away or "defreeze" the rigid cognitive defensive structure that constitutes the denial.

Jesus has a "defreezing" programme too.

MATTHEW 13
41 The Sonne of man shall send forth his Angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdome all things that offend, and them which doe iniquitie:
42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wayling and gnashing of teeth..
47 ¶ Againe, the kingdome of heauen is like vnto a net that was cast into the sea, and gathered of euery kind,
48 Which, when it was full, they drew to shore, and sate downe, and gathered the good into vessels, but cast the bad away.
49 So shall it be at the ende of the world: the Angels shal come forth, and seuer the wicked from among the iust,
50 And shal cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be wailing, and gnashing of teeth.
CONTEXT ©1611

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy

Christianity is a patriarchal religion. The Bible is sexist, though some Christians have tempered that sexism with a more modern sensibiltiy.



Atheism is not hatred for God. I cannot hate what I don't believe exists. Obviously I don't believe the Bible is the word of God. It simply incorporates a moral code that evolved with us to help our ancestors survive.

There is moral as well as technological progress. We no longer practice slavery or keep women from voting. We are becoming more aware of gay rights. Your church is lagging on these issues.

Where does God say we should cheerfully disregard His commandments whenever we decide we just don't like them any more?

[davidbrainfart]

Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy

There is nothing sexist about a woman being expected to adhere to her Biblically-prescribed role.

Christianity is a patriarchal religion. The Bible is sexist, though some Christians have tempered that sexism with a more modern sensibiltiy.

Why do you hate God so much that you reject His Word in favor of your modern 'morals'?

Atheism is not hatred for God. I cannot hate what I don't believe exists. Obviously I don't believe the Bible is the word of God. It simply incorporates a moral code that evolved with us to help our ancestors survive.

There is moral as well as technological progress. We no longer practice slavery or keep women from voting. We are becoming more aware of gay rights. Your church is lagging on these issues.

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy

So your proud Christian church is not only racist but sexist as well.

If you are trying to shock us with the idea that God considers women to be inferior to men, guess what! We kinda knew that already because we read the Bible.

Perhaps you might, too, so you save yourself the embarrassment of pointing out the bleeding obvious.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy

So your proud Christian church is not only racist but sexist as well.

And you Darwinistas are the ones who invented bigotry!

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy

So your proud Christian church is not only racist but sexist as well.

There is nothing sexist about a woman being expected to adhere to her Biblically-prescribed role.

Why do you hate God so much that you reject His Word in favor of your modern 'morals'?

[davidbrainfart]

Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy

UmadSistah,

I know you are a woman, but even my wife can follow simple instructions. Introduce yourself first please. Then, head to the aunt flo forum and learn about the pleasures of baking pies. Your addled mind clearly cannot handle comprehending The Bible without the firm discipline of a loving man's hand to guide you.

Find a True Christian to marry and discipline you today, and you will have all your answers tomorrow!

So your proud Christian church is not only racist but sexist as well.