The problem is, there's proof all around you, but you aren't accepting it.
If you can tell me exactly what you want as proof, then I'll do my best to provide it. We can give you examples all day long, but I figure none of them would be good enough.
So, tell me what proof you want, and I'll get it.
YIC
V
Judges 9:21 And Jotham ran away, and fled, and went to Beer, and dwelt there, for fear of Abimelech his brother.
The problem is, there's proof all around you, but you aren't accepting it.
If you can tell me exactly what you want as proof, then I'll do my best to provide it. We can give you examples all day long, but I figure none of them would be good enough.
So, tell me what proof you want, and I'll get it.
YIC
V
I see tons of proof around me... for the FSM to be real.
Just prove wrong some of the fundamentals of my faith.
prove
-The FSM dosen't exist
-Pirates are not the absolute divine beings
-The FSM didn't create the heavens and the Earth
-That all those who have been touched by his noodly apendage have in fact, not.
Anything you can find that directly contradicts The Gospel of The Flying Spagetti Monster.
I am giving you free rein to disprove it any way you please. Use whatever evidance you want and any means you wish, and see if you can disprove my faith.
The Flying Spaghetti Monster is a fictitious character invented to parody God, which has become popular in anticreationist and anti-Intelligent Design circles. It was created in 2005 to protest the decision by the Kansas State Board of Education to require the teaching of intelligent design.
So the fact that it was made up in 2005 (only 5 years ago) by Bobby Henderson to specifically argue against teaching proper Christian creationism in Kansas schools means nothing?
Amazon.com: The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster: 9780812976564: Henderson, Bobby: Books
An elaborate spoof on Intelligent Design, The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster is neither too elaborate nor too spoofy to succeed in nailing the fallacies of ID. It's even wackier than Jonathan Swift's suggestion that the Irish eat their children as a way to keep them from being a burden, and it may offend just as many people, but Henderson, described elsewhere as a 25-year-old "out-of-work physics major," puts satire to the same serious use that Swift did. Oh, yes, it is very funny.
The fact that people who actually read it's gospels call it a spoof on par with Swift, means nothing?
Really, you're asking us to compare a God who always has been and always will be, to a spoof. But of course if we're insulted by this, then it's because I'm 'over sensitive'.
Or are you one of those idiots who actually believe in the FSM? Mr. Henderson doesn't want anything to do with you, but I've heard that there's scammers out there that are willing to take all of your worldly possessions in order to prove your faith.
I see tons of proof around me... for the FSM to be real.
Just prove wrong some of the fundamentals of my faith.
prove
-The FSM dosen't exist
-Pirates are not the absolute divine beings
-The FSM didn't create the heavens and the Earth
-That all those who have been touched by his noodly apendage have in fact, not.
Anything you can find that directly contradicts The Gospel of The Flying Spagetti Monster.
I am giving you free rein to disprove it any way you please. Use whatever evidance you want and any means you wish, and see if you can disprove my faith.
Could you give us a reference to work. Our faith is dictated by the Bible, KJV OF COURSE.Yours may or may not have been pulled from your backside this morning.
sigpic1 Chronicles 16:15 Be ye mindful always of his covenant; the word which he commanded to a thousand generations ... an everlasting covenant. Proverbs 30:5,6: Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.
Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.
I would like anyone to try and prove to me that the Flying Spaghetti Monster (FSM) is not the all mighty deity. If you can...
Have at it!
Here you go...
Exodus 20:1-3:And God spake all these words, saying, I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
1 Samuel 15:23: For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, he hath also rejected thee from being king.
2 Timothy 3:16: All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
Well, that seems to have destroyed his faith in false gods. If he ever comes back, we must introduce him to Jesus.
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“We must reassert that the essence of Christianity is the love of obedience to God’s Laws and that how that complete obedience is used or implemented does not concern us.”
So the fact that it was made up in 2005 (only 5 years ago) by Bobby Henderson to specifically argue against teaching proper Christian creationism in Kansas schools means nothing?
Amazon.com: The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster: 9780812976564: Henderson, Bobby: Books
The fact that people who actually read it's gospels call it a spoof on par with Swift, means nothing?
Really, you're asking us to compare a God who always has been and always will be, to a spoof. But of course if we're insulted by this, then it's because I'm 'over sensitive'.
Or are you one of those idiots who actually believe in the FSM? Mr. Henderson doesn't want anything to do with you, but I've heard that there's scammers out there that are willing to take all of your worldly possessions in order to prove your faith.
Of coarse i don't actually believe in the FSM, I am just simply trying to make a point. Pastafarianism cannot be disproven, (neither can your religion or any other religion) this is showing that all religion is equally valid, and since only one religion can be correct, none of them can be considered valid. (i.e. If they are all equally valid, they are also all equally INvalid) The only claim to truth that any religion has is "God says we are right" which is claimed by every single religion/cult in the world. Once again going to the point that "if they are all valid, none of them are".
My goal was to show how the logics that all the "true christians" use on this forum to prove the existance of your god, can be used to prove every other god in the world. This is why quoting the bible does not prove the bibles validity. A muslim can quote the qu'ran, however that does not prove allah is god. Why should I believe you over him? What do you have that (s)he does not?
Exodus 20:1-3:And God spake all these words, saying, I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
1 Samuel 15:23: For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, he hath also rejected thee from being king.
2 Timothy 3:16: All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
Enjoy hell, atheist Godmocker.
The FSM says that your religion/bible is wrong. The FSM made this and many other religions to test the faith of his followers.
[...] This is why quoting the bible does not prove the bibles validity.[...]
Now were it not for the fact that God inspired men to write the Bible and then in 1611 arranged for His final publication, I would have seen some sense in what you're saying.
As it is, it's rather like saying Chaucer never existed because he's dead.
A muslim can quote the qu'ran, however that does not prove allah is god. Why should I believe you over him? What do you have that (s)he does not?
I would have thought that obvious. Islam is an entirely invented religion, led by a pedophile goatherder who thought it a good idea, 600 YEARS AFTER CHRIST DIED FOR OUR SINS, to scribble some fantasy whilst mentally deluded.
This was in direct contradiction to God who had already said bits about not worshiping other and/or false gods.
OK, can I interest you in Baby Jesus? Have you ever thought about what it will be like when you die? Would you like to live for ever?
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“We must reassert that the essence of Christianity is the love of obedience to God’s Laws and that how that complete obedience is used or implemented does not concern us.”
Now were it not for the fact that God inspired men to write the Bible and then in 1611 arranged for His final publication, I would have seen some sense in what you're saying.
As it is, it's rather like saying Chaucer never existed because he's dead. I would have thought that obvious. Islam is an entirely invented religion, led by a pedophile goatherder who thought it a good idea, 600 YEARS AFTER CHRIST DIED FOR OUR SINS, to scribble some fantasy whilst mentally deluded.
This was in direct contradiction to God who had already said bits about not worshiping other and/or false gods.
OK, can I interest you in Baby Jesus? Have you ever thought about what it will be like when you die? Would you like to live for ever?
As i said before every Religion says that there religious texts were given to them by their god(s), or inspired by god(s). Yours is not the only that claims this.
The age of a religion should not matter to you because the fact still remains that christianity is not the oldest religion. There are many pagan religions that pre-date your own. So if the age of a religion also relates to its overall validity, that would mean by your own standards, those religions are more valid than yours.
No thanks, "I do not fear death, in view of the fact that I had been dead for billions and billions of years before I was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it."-Mark Twain, i'm satisfied with this life thanks.
As i said before every Religion says that there religious texts were given to them by their god(s), or inspired by god(s). Yours is not the only that claims this.
The age of a religion should not matter to you because the fact still remains that christianity is not the oldest religion. There are many pagan religions that pre-date your own. So if the age of a religion also relates to its overall validity, that would mean by your own standards, those religions are more valid than yours.
No thanks, "I do not fear death, in view of the fact that I had been dead for billions and billions of years before I was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it."-Mark Twain, i'm satisfied with this life thanks.
How exactly can a false religion predate the beginning of time?
Idiot.
Bible boring? Nonsense! Try Bible in a Year with Brother V, or join Shirlee and the kids as they discuss Real Bible Stories! You can't be a Christian if you don't know God's Word!
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