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  • Rational_Atheist
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    • Dec 2010
    • 18

    #3136
    Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

    Don't be ridiculous. The sun moves across the earth creating timezones.

    Ecclesiastes 1:5 The sun also ariseth, and the sun goeth down, and hasteth to his place where he arose.

    I don't get your point, you say the sun doesnt turn around the earth when that bible text suggests different. And even if the sun moved across the earth it would not explain timezones. The flat earth recieves light as long as the sun is moving across it's surface. The angle in which the light falls would not be small enough to cause night time in different places. It would only create a difference in temperature.

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    • James Hutchins
      True Christian™
      Just a Regular Nice Guy
       
      • Jun 2009
      • 29437

      #3137
      Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

      Originally posted by Rational_Atheist View Post
      Don't be ridiculous. The sun moves across the earth creating timezones.

      Ecclesiastes 1:5 The sun also ariseth, and the sun goeth down, and hasteth to his place where he arose.

      I don't get your point, you say the sun doesnt turn around the earth when that bible text suggests different. And even if the sun moved across the earth it would not explain timezones. The flat earth recieves light as long as the sun is moving across it's surface. The angle in which the light falls would not be small enough to cause night time in different places. It would only create a difference in temperature.
      The Earth is stationary and the Sun moves across the firmament.

      Time zones are just based on where the Sun is illumuinating.
      Take a flashlight and go in a room. Aim the beam. You have a light spot and the rest of the room is dark. Move the flashlight. This is what the Sun does. Simple
      Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
      Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
      Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
      Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
      Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
      Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

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      • Levi Jones
        Pastor of Hermeneutics and Apologetics
        Bathed in Christ's Precious Blood
        Apostle to the Cactuses, Tumbleweeds and Jackrabbits
         
        • Jul 2009
        • 13930

        #3138
        Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

        Originally posted by Rational_Atheist View Post

        I don't get your point, you say the sun doesnt turn around the earth when that bible text suggests different. And even if the sun moved across the earth it would not explain timezones. The flat earth recieves light as long as the sun is moving across it's surface. The angle in which the light falls would not be small enough to cause night time in different places. It would only create a difference in temperature.
        You are operating under the assumption that the sun is much larger and further away. Read Pastor Billy-Reuben's sermon on that matter.

        Move a flashlight across a piece of paper. It doesn't illuminate the entire thing all at once.
        Christians are superior because we possess an understanding that unbelievers lack. It is through the Power of Jesus only the converted mind is able to understand what is going on in the world; what the Communists are really up to; what Satan's intentions are. Most unbelievers do not even believe in Satan and cannot understand his tactics.

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        • BelieverInGod
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          • Feb 2010
          • 9269

          #3139
          Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

          My Doctor in Calgary had a wonderful map of the earth that showed where the sun was shining and timezones across it. It was illuminated from behind, but the idea's the same.

          I always wanted to get the same thing, I asked him where he got it, but he said it was a gift from his son. Just as well, it was probably very expensive.

          Oh, and for you nay-sayers, it was flat.
          Drama queen

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          • Rational_Atheist
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            • Dec 2010
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            #3140
            Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

            If you'd compare the sun to a flashlight your theory would fit. Unfortunatly there's a tiny flaw. The light generated in a flashlight is sent out in a specific direction because of it's casing the light won't go to the sides. But as for the sun, it has no casing. Light is generated at every point of it's surface and sent to every direction. So if the sun was to move over the earth's surface like a flashlight over a piece of paper there would be no shadow because the light is not stopped at any point.

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            • Cranky Old Man
              Trying to out-Methuselah Methuselah
              You kids get off his lawn!
               
              • Jan 2010
              • 22352

              #3141
              Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

              Originally posted by Rational_Atheist View Post
              So if the sun was to move over the earth's surface like a flashlight over a piece of paper there would be no shadow because the light is not stopped at any point.
              You seem to be unaware of how light and shadows work. You were probably busy making silly drawings while your teacher was explaining this to you.

              However it is easy to learn how light and shadows work. Just put something between a light source and a surface and you will see a shadow.

              5 Reasons why GOD HATES WOMEN!
              To most "Christians" The Bible is like a license agreement. They just scroll to the bottom and click "I agree". All those "Christians" will burn in Hell!
              James 2:10 "For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all."

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              • Ezekiel Bathfire
                Pastor for Diversity and Tolerance
                Christ's Rottweiler
                 
                • Jan 2008
                • 22838

                #3142
                Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

                Originally posted by Rational_Atheist View Post
                Don't be ridiculous. The sun moves across the earth creating timezones.

                Ecclesiastes 1:5 The sun also ariseth, and the sun goeth down, and hasteth to his place where he arose.

                I don't get your point, you say the sun doesnt turn around the earth when that bible text suggests different. And even if the sun moved across the earth it would not explain timezones. The flat earth recieves light as long as the sun is moving across it's surface. The angle in which the light falls would not be small enough to cause night time in different places. It would only create a difference in temperature.
                At some expense to my time, I have created this small animation, that, will explain everything.


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                (This has given me some insight into how God Himself must have felt all those 6,000 years ago.)
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                “We must reassert that the essence of Christianity is the love of obedience to God’s Laws and that how that complete obedience is used or implemented does not concern us.”

                Author of such illuminating essays as,
                Map of the Known World; Periodic Table of Elements; The History of Linguistics; The Errors of Wicca; Dolphins and Evolution; The History of Landover (The Apology); Landover and the Civil War; 2000 Racial Slurs.

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                • James Hutchins
                  True Christian™
                  Just a Regular Nice Guy
                   
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 29437

                  #3143
                  Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

                  Fantastic animation, Pastor Bathfire, most impressive. A moving picture is worth a 1,000 words or a single good Bible verse.
                  Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
                  Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
                  Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
                  Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
                  Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
                  Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

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                  • Rational_Atheist
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                    • Dec 2010
                    • 18

                    #3144
                    Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

                    Originally posted by Cranky Old Man View Post
                    You seem to be unaware of how light and shadows work. You were probably busy making silly drawings while your teacher was explaining this to you.

                    However it is easy to learn how light and shadows work. Just put something between a light source and a surface and you will see a shadow.

                    No need to get hostile gramps.
                    Yes I know how shadows work, however I don't think you get my point.
                    As long as the sun is a round ball of light, the light it emits will go into all directions, and without any obstruction there is no possibility for any shadow to be formed.
                    In the moving picture posted by your friend the sun lights specific areas on the earth but, the sun is round hence the light goes in al directions and the entire surface of the earth is lit up. Try doing the same test as before with the flashlight but instead use a round lightbulb that has no obstruction between it and the piece of paper. You will see that the entire paper will be lit up, not just 1 part of it.

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                    • Sheldon the Swede
                      Confirmed Enemy of God
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 145

                      #3145
                      Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

                      To actually know for sure that the earth is flat or round is use of mathemathics, you just need the distance between 2 places on earth and the angle of the sun of those 2 places at a specific time. By a very simple calculation, you can see that it forms a curve, and if you continue this curve you will end by a cricle.

                      Math doesn't lie, only people.

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                      • Lisa H
                        Proud to be Blonde, Beautiful, and Baptist
                        True Christian™
                        • Jun 2010
                        • 5070

                        #3146
                        Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

                        Originally posted by Sheldon View Post
                        To actually know for sure that the earth is flat or round is use of mathemathics, you just need the distance between 2 places on earth and the angle of the sun of those 2 places at a specific time. By a very simple calculation, you can see that it forms a curve, and if you continue this curve you will end by a cricle.

                        Math doesn't lie, only people.
                        To know for sure, read the Bible. We have already posted so much on how the earth is flat.
                        Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth
                        Proverbs 19:25 Smite a scorner, and the simple will beware: and reprove one that hath understanding, and he will understand knowledge.
                        Ezekiel 16:14 And thy renown went forth among the heathen for thy beauty: for it was perfect through my comeliness, which I had put upon thee, saith the Lord GOD.
                        Proverbs 6:25 Lust not after her beauty in thine heart; neither let her take thee with her eyelids.
                        Genesis 24:16 And the damsel was very fair to look upon, a virgin, neither had any man known her: and she went down to the well, and filled her pitcher, and came up.
                        Song of Solomon 1:15 Behold, thou art fair, my love; behold, thou art fair; thou hast doves' eyes.

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                        • Rational_Atheist
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                          #3147
                          Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

                          Don't bother, any logical argument you give will be dismissed. I got mocked for disproving the 3 experiments without any decent proof of me being wrong.

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                          • Lisa H
                            Proud to be Blonde, Beautiful, and Baptist
                            True Christian™
                            • Jun 2010
                            • 5070

                            #3148
                            Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

                            Originally posted by Rational_Atheist View Post
                            Don't bother, any logical argument you give will be dismissed. I got mocked for disproving the 3 experiments without any decent proof of me being wrong.
                            There was decent proof on why you are wrong. Just admit you are wrong and the earth is flat.
                            Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth
                            Proverbs 19:25 Smite a scorner, and the simple will beware: and reprove one that hath understanding, and he will understand knowledge.
                            Ezekiel 16:14 And thy renown went forth among the heathen for thy beauty: for it was perfect through my comeliness, which I had put upon thee, saith the Lord GOD.
                            Proverbs 6:25 Lust not after her beauty in thine heart; neither let her take thee with her eyelids.
                            Genesis 24:16 And the damsel was very fair to look upon, a virgin, neither had any man known her: and she went down to the well, and filled her pitcher, and came up.
                            Song of Solomon 1:15 Behold, thou art fair, my love; behold, thou art fair; thou hast doves' eyes.

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                            • Sheldon the Swede
                              Confirmed Enemy of God
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 145

                              #3149
                              Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

                              OK then, why is the bible right?
                              It is written by humans, why are those humans more special than others? Had they a dream where the whole world was explained by God? Everyone has a freakish dream where they thought they saw a message, why were THEY right about everything before any form of technology and acces to limitless knowledge?

                              There is NOTHING from the Bible that is 100% sure that is from God, because it is written by human minds. No human has absolute knowledge and yet they kwew it all and put it in a book.

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                              • Cranky Old Man
                                Trying to out-Methuselah Methuselah
                                You kids get off his lawn!
                                 
                                • Jan 2010
                                • 22352

                                #3150
                                Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

                                Originally posted by Sheldon View Post
                                OK then, why is the bible right?
                                Because it is inspired by God: 2nd Timothy 3:16 "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness"

                                No human has absolute knowledge
                                Which is why they needed God to write the Holy Bible.
                                5 Reasons why GOD HATES WOMEN!
                                To most "Christians" The Bible is like a license agreement. They just scroll to the bottom and click "I agree". All those "Christians" will burn in Hell!
                                James 2:10 "For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all."

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