[Alvin]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

Really? Please tell me that you guys are not serious...

This is some of the stupidest stuff I have ever heard in my life.

Interesting. I believe that is roughly what Einstein said with regard to quantum physics (which I assume you believe in):

The more success the quantum mechanics has, the sillier it looks.
(Albert Einstein to Heinrich Zangger on Quantum Theory, May 20, 1912)

So obviously the perceived "stupidity" or "silliness" of an idea is no indication of its veracity, just an indication of the limits of the mental models of the perceiver.

I have nothing against theists (of any religion). You are free to believe what you want - and I respect that. But this... this is scientific blasphemy.

"scientific blasphemy"... now there's a novel concept!

I was under the - obviously false - impression that the scientific method used empirical observation to test the prediction of falsifiable theories against the observed outcomes, as explained by Popper, Logik der Forschung, 1934. OK, the English version only came out 25 years later (The Logic of Scientific Discovery, 1959) but that's still plenty of time for the library in a backwater Uni to pick one up. If you can't be bothered with reading anymore (after all, you already know The Truth), here's something a bit easier to digest:

Richard Feynman on the scientific method

But you seem to be accusing us of deviating from scientific dogma? Cute. I'm happy that believers in the True Scientific Dogma like yourself don't have the power to burn blasphemers at the stake... because that's exactly the kind of ignorant, dogmatic position that got Giordano Bruno burned at the stake for suggesting a radically different model of how the world works - one that contradicted the prevalent dogma of the day. Judging from your shout of "scientific blasphemy", you would have been standing in the frenzied crowd, applauding this blasphemer's death.


Please do yourself and the world the favor of stepping back and thinking about it for a second. It's this kind of "absolute, unshakable certainty" that you know The Truth that causes most of the atrocities in the world.
You believe in your "physics" mostly because of stuff you learn in books - only a very tiny fraction of which you have actually observed first-hand in experiments. How is that any more certain than our position of believing in the Bible?

I am an engineering major and physics minor at the University of Michigan.

Well... I would have expected a physicist in training to be at least familiar with the sci.physics crackpot index, on which you have just gained 10 crackpot points:

"10 points for pointing out that you have gone to school, as if this were evidence of sanity."

If you so desire, I can explain to you why ALL of your arguments are non-factual. Come on guys, this stuff has been KNOWN for over 200 years (referring to the laws of physics and mathematics of course).

Don't "explain" how they make sense in your mental model, that is of no predictive value whatsoever. If you can, we invite you to go ahead and disprove them with first-hand, observable evidence. Anything that is not first-hand observable, then we just have a discussion on whose book is better. And we know who will win that:

Deut.32:4 He is the Rock, his work is perfect: for all his ways are judgment: a God of truth and without iniquity, just and right is he.

In any case - you cannot say that this "stuff has been KNOWN", you can only say these things have been BELIEVED at various times for over
200 years.... But hold on..."200 years"? Wow. Don't they teach you anything about the history of your science in your physics program?

Giordano Bruno was burned at the Stake in 1600 for the blasphemous heliocentric world view

Aristarchus of Samos calculated the circumference of the earth ca. 270 BC

Philolaus of Pythagoras rejected the Geocentric world view ca. 390 BC


That's 2400 years, so you were off by a whole order of magnitude... not a problem unless you are building something big which might kill people. And in any case still a trivial error in contrast to you rejecting the word of GOD on these matters!

But I digress. In order to KNOW something you would need to observe it first-hand, and I think I can safely presume you have not been into space to see the beautiful flat earth with your own eyes (likely nobody has, this is another discussion).

I hope they at least taught you that science can never be certain any of its theories are correct. It can only identify those which are wrong through falsification. Go read your Popper (and Ockham, and...).

It must be very convenient to be able to use all of the awesome technologies that the fields of math, physics, chemistry, and engineering have brought to the human race, yet immediately dismiss everything that doesn't fit into your ideologies.

We would not have (and this is a list that could go on forever) cars, cell phones, computers/internet, any form of electricity, etc... etc.... etc... if it weren't for the human race's comprehensive knowledge of physics. You use ALL of these things on a daily basis. ALL of these things were created using the fundamental principles of physics.

Look - I don't have a problem with physics, chemistry or engineering. I do have a problem with Physicists-in-Training who lack a basic understanding of their own discipline and spew nonsense like "scientific blasphemy", without any empirical evidence whatsoever.

These same principles PROVE, without a BIT of doubt that the Earth is round. WE HAVE PICTURES OF THE SPHERICAL EARTH TAKEN FROM ORBIT. DO YOU NOT BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE EVER PUT A CAMERA INTO SPACE?

Come on guys, you can believe in God and the laws of physics at the same time.

Congratulations!

You have earned another 140 crackpot points according to your own discipline's the sci.physics crackpot index:

"5 points for each word in all capital letters (except for those with defective keyboards)."

This brings you to a total of 150 points - and into good company with many other pseudo-physicist cranks out there. I would venture that if you were as certain of the correctness of your world view as you claim, you would be shouting much less and instead engage in rational dialogue.

You know - even your scientific colleagues tell us that we are right... you guys tend to be fond of Ockham's Razor, oft stated like this:

Numquam ponenda est pluralitas sine necessitate,
“Plurality must never be posited without necessity"

What you guys typically fail to mention is that for William of Ockham the minimal necessary entity was GOD, everything else was contingent on God.



So we don't need any other certainty - we have the WORD of GOD in the KJV of the Bible. We only need this one, true source - and we will wait patiently until you physicists with your trial-and-error scientific method crawl your way towards the certain knowledge that we already hold.

You do recall that trying to gain too much knowledge was the way we got into this whole mess in the first place?

Gen.2:9,17 And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil. [...] But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.


Amen, brother, I hope you still find the light!

Alvin

PS: You will need to do way better at putting forward your position than shouting "scientific blasphemy" if you wish to convince any rational person.

[BelieverInGod]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

Although I think Alvin did a wonderful job at debunking you with your own "scientific" evidence. I just wanted to focus on two words...

scientific blasphemy.

So you openly admit that you worship science as a god? Thank you, more and more you atheists come here and show the cracks that your atheist theories are more a religion that is purely anti-God, than anything to do with true reasoning and understanding of the world.

Especially physics. I'll admit that my scientific studies were more on the bio-chem side and that my chemistry is pretty rusty by this point, but physics beyond if you drop something it falls is pure theory. All physicists do is play with large mathematical formulas and pretend that this somehow proves how the universe works.

[Common sense16]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

I cant tell if this is serious or not. Im pretty sure you cant fall of the earth..... no im sure that you cant. BUt then how is the earth round??? GRAVITY. You people are so ignorant. I really wish that i could exterminate all of you. OF COURSE THE EARTH IS ROUND. i didnt even know people still evenbelieved it was flat... but then again alot of your ideas come from the 14 th century too.. so im not surprised.

[lightning166]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

Wow these experiments are truly wonderful! Now I know for sure that the Earth is completely flat. After all, this are absolute, concrete evidence that these "scientists" cannot hope to disprove. Just the other day my brother-in-law and I went out for a boat ride off the coast of Australia. We decided to take separate boats, however, as his was in poor condition and decidedly dangerous, but he insisted on driving it anyway. As we reached the edge of the Earth I warned him profusely not to proceed for he would surely fall off! He argued with his theories of gravity and other nonsense and literally mid sentence he fell right off the edge of the Earth! At first I thought this was quite tragic, but then I realized how much better the world would be now that there was one less atheist "Earth as a sphere" believer who is currently rotting in Hell with the blacks, Jews, gays, shellfish eaters, beard trimmers, cotton-polyester blend wearers, and scientists. It makes me so angry that some people are so ignorant when there is such overwhelming evidence of the bible's truth! If Jesus did not show us that God's power can turn one fish into a thousand and turn water into wine, then how could 7-11 afford to sell 99 cent slushies?! Impossible! And explain this, science! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oe3St1GgoHQ Walking on water. Emulating Jesus? I think so. The bible is clearly meant to be taken completely literally, why don't people understand this?? How could you not want to believe in a God that LOVES EVERYONE... except for people that are not white Americans. We need to convince them that their ways of peace, acceptance, understanding, open-mindedness, logic, and intelligence are grossly inconsistent with Gods word! The BIBLE tells us that we can be saved from sin! And all we need to do is screw morals, sell our daughters into slavery, sacrifice animals, kill anyone who doesn't completely agree with our ideas, and devote our lives completely the Lord. I love God with my whole heart, because he understands my racist, ignorant, and immoral desires and coincidentally has all of the same racist, ignorant, and immoral desires! Praise the Lord Jeramiah 29:12 18-23 Thou shalt follow the Lord blindly and kill everyone that doesn't think that the Earth is flat, but like, in a loving way, because I love all of the people that I mercilessly kill for no reason.

That is one of my favorite verses. It's taped to my ceiling so I can read it every night before I go to sleep, and every day when I wake up in the morning. This verse, and our Lord and savior Jesus Christ, are what keep me going every day!

Oh and by the you are almost definitely the biggest group of complete morons that has ever walked this spherical Earth.

[Pastor William Nathaniel Sampson]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

How could you not want to believe in a God that LOVES EVERYONE..

Where does the Bible say that God loves everyone?

My Bible clearly states that there are not only people God does not love. There are people God hates and abhors. Here's a short list.

Psalm 11:5 The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth.

Hosea 9:15 All their wickedness is in Gilgal: for there I hated them: for the wickedness of their doings I will drive them out of mine house, I will love them no more: all their princes are revolters.

Proverbs 6:16-19 These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

Romans 9:13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.

Proverbs 15:8-9,26 The sacrifice of the wicked is an abomination to the LORD: but the prayer of the upright is his delight.
The way of the wicked is an abomination unto the LORD: but he loveth him that followeth after righteousness.
The thoughts of the wicked are an abomination to the LORD: but the words of the pure are pleasant words.

Proverbs 16:5 Every one that is proud in heart is an abomination to the LORD: though hand join in hand, he shall not be unpunished.

Isaiah 1:13 Bring no more vain oblations; incense is an abomination unto me; the new moons and sabbaths, the calling of assemblies, I cannot away with; it is iniquity, even the solemn meeting.
Your new moons and your appointed feasts my soul hateth: they are a trouble unto me; I am weary to bear them.

Amos 5:21 I hate, I despise your feast days, and I will not smell in your solemn assemblies.

Deuteronomy 16:22 Neither shalt thou set thee up any image; which the LORD thy God hateth.

Revelation 2:6; 15 But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitanes, which I also hate.
So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitanes, which thing I hate.

We need to convince them that their ways of peace, acceptance, understanding, open-mindedness, logic, and intelligence are grossly inconsistent with Gods word! The BIBLE tells us that we can be saved from sin!

That is, of course, true. Nowhere does the Bible say we are to be open or understanding to science or anything of the sort.

1 Timothy 6:20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:

Hebrews 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

And all we need to do is screw morals, sell our daughters into slavery,

In a perfect world we would be able to.

sacrifice animals,

Animal sacrifice was done away with in the New Testament, because God sacrificed Himself and His blood temporarily sated God's lust for blood sacrifices. Shout glory!

kill anyone who doesn't completely agree with our ideas,

We can't because we have to follow the laws of man.

[Herschel]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

No...the Earth is unquestionably round. Seeing as there is not only physical evidence of this, but actual experiments that you can do at home to prove it. The Greek mathematician Eratosthenes successfully calculated the circumference of the Earth around 215 BC. (For those of you who do not grasp even a basic knowledge of geometry, circumference is the distance around the perimeter (outside) of a circle, in this the center point of a sphere, also known as the equator on a sphere called Earth) Eratosthenes calculated the circumference over 2200 years ago with a 1% error from what has been measured today. He did this with shadows and simple mathematics, trigonometry in specific. So, to reiterate, this man proved that the Earth was a sphere, with a calculable, and today measurable circumference and therefore not flat. Furthermore, any of thousands of pictures taken from satellites that orbit the Earth clearly prove that the planet is not in fact flat. (Orbit would be defined as traveling around a three-dimensional object in space, in this case the Earth)

As for you argument involving the simple act of jumping proving that the Earth is flat, this is completely incorrect. First of all, apart from suggesting that the Earth is flat, using this flawed logic you seem to be saying that the Earth is not moving at all, which would make the Sun not rise and set every morning and evening respectively. Which it very clearly does. However, we don't even have time to open up that very ridiculous assertion. That aside, your inclusion of jumping from the bed of a pick up truck (which is what i can only assume is your primary form of transportation) is employing rather flawed logic which stems from a general misunderstanding of the laws of physics. If you were to stand up in the back of a moving pick up truck, you would feel "wind" which is no the air moving so much as you moving through the relatively stationary air and the air resisting your movement. Now if you were to jump up, this resistance would cause you to remain about in the same place you were when you left the bed of the pick up, with some retained forward velocity, and the pick up truck would continue to move beneath you, causing you to hit the ground, which is your argument proving a flat Earth. However, if correct this would only "prove" that the Earth remains stationary in space, not revolving or orbiting the Sun. The major problem here is that the Earth has this nifty thing called an atmosphere. Perhaps you've heard of it. I won't get in to what that means in terms of science, however for the purposes of this argument let's just break it down to the air that surrounds us, because air unquestionable surrounds us. Now, since Earth is in a closed environment surrounded by air, whereas the vacuum of space around it contains no air, which makes Earth a closed environment. We can equate this to the cab of your beloved pick up truck. Since the cab lacks the room to try your experiment of jumping up, we can just toss a tennis ball up into the air while seated int he moving vehicle. Provided the truck stays at the same speed in the same direction (similar to the motion of the Earth which you are so adamantly trying to disprove), the ball will go up and fall back down into your hand as it is not affected by the outside environment, similar to a person jumping up into the air on Earth.

As I've already addressed the very clear fact that the Earth is round and is proven to be that way, I won't even try to debunk you experiment involving a balloon and a piece of paper. However, I will say one thing. If you are comparing a scrap of paper to a human and man was made in God's image, you are stating that God is an insignificant scrap of paper trying to cling to the bottom of a balloon. BLASPHEMY! Furthermore, the fact that the piece of paper falls off of the balloon and towards Earth is actually an example of that "mumbo-jumbo gravity" business in action, so thank you for further proving my points with this one.

As for your third "experiment", you state that as you continue to rise farther and farther from the surface of the Earth, you will be able to see more and more of said planet. This is a fact, but does not prove the Earth is flat. Eventually you will get high enough up that you will see the horizon and curvature of the Earth. pilots of supersonic jets have risen to the edge of space and have photographed the curve of the planet along with the edge of the atmosphere that I mentioned before. Also, following your assertion that rising farther and farther from the surface of the Earth reveals more and more is correct. You see, when you go far enough out, you have left Earth's atmosphere and can now see that the Earth is in fact round, not flat.

In short, everyone of you "experiments" employs flawed logic to prove something that is very clearly incorrect as proved by a man over 2200 years ago, along with any educated person today. You aren't even making coherent arguments. I'm very disturbed by the fact that an entire community of people can be so very ignorant to absolutely everything. So very, very ignorant and close-minded. It makes me angry to read your random babblings condemning others for not being like yourself. God is not the answer to everything...God is not the answer to anything. You can't hide behind your arguments that we can't prove that the Bible is wrong, therefore it is true. The Bible is the biggest fucking piece of shit I have ever seen. It wasn't written by God, it was written by multitudes of different people over hundreds of years, translated, revised and censored every time. It's a fairytale book containing the bed time stories created by people who would rather do what they are told than think and use their minds in anyway at all. You are all literally retarded. And I will pray for you...oh wait, no I won't. I will do nothing of the kind, I will actively try to hunt you all down and expunge the world of you. That seems like a much more noble cause than a mass genocide of every minority.

What is wrong with you people? You have miserable lives and are full of absolute bullshit. It's one thing to be wrong, but to be wrong and stupid and not willing to admit it at all is another. You deserve to be shot one by one for your so called ideologies that are aimed at making the world a better place. I remember the last guy who believed in racial cleansing to get a hold of power...he went by Hitler. All I have left to say is thank God for making me an Atheist.
Praise Richard Dawkins and Charles Darwin!

[Herschel]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

I find your judgment interesting. First of all, you flaunt your "queer bashing" badge. I can only assume you literally beat homosexuals because....because you feel like it? That works, that's clear morality. Anyway, I find it interesting that my location has been changed to "worshiping monkeys", which apart from not being a geographical place is wildly inaccurate. I've been accosted for my posts and accused of not understanding your set of beliefs. Whereas you similarly don't understand mine because you are so single minded and set in your ridiculous beliefs that come from a book. However allow me to pose a question. Why does God create the people that you've listed as Jesus condemning to hell if he hates them. That seems rather counter-intuitive. Wow, I created this fantastic place where someday I'll send my only son to be viciously murdered...might as well fill it with gays and black people too! I mean sure...why not God? But anyway, I feel that my infraction points were very undeserved. I was relatively respectful and don't personally believe in being penalized for being correct. Thank you for your very, very cleary un-valuable time.

[Herschel]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

I understand that I could send this through a private message, but I'd rather express my concerns on this nice public forum. I must say that I deeply resent being labeled a "teenaged hatemonger". While it's true that I am only 16 years old, doesn't it seem rather odd that I already possess such a superior intellect that I've been given infraction points simply for being correct? It seems to me that my intelligence alarms you and scares you very deeply. Your beliefs stem from a lack of understanding and that stems from a lack of wanting to become informed. Deep down your ignorance cripples you as a functioning human being. If you weren't so severely angering, I would almost feel pity for you considering how much of life you're missing out on. This universe is beautiful. You simply resent the fact that I don't need some divine power to appreciate that. You really just can't come to terms with the fact that some "teenaged hatemonger" is tearing everyone of your "factual" arguments to shreds with very minimal effort. This forum is quite an enjoyable place.

[Mrs. Mary Whitford]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

Do you always whine like an angst-ridden emo teenybopper?

[Evang. Christian]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

I am an evangelican christian. I love Jesus! but i disagree with your beliefs.

Just a few questions:
Don't mean to judge any of you.

1. Why do you call unbelievers "trash"? Jesus died for them...

2. If the earth is flat, how can you go around the world and end up in the same place? (Say I start from the center of the so called flat earth..)

3. If you guys are so against science, why are you conducting science experiments?

4. Why is it so hard to believe in gravity and the laws of physics? God created man.. you think he created us stupid? Sure we fell into sin, and I agree there are some times when science goes too far (like evolution) but come on... "An object in constant motion will stay in constant motion unless acted upon by another force." That sounds about right to me.. If I drop a ball from the roof, it'll keep going straight down unless another force is applied. Am I right?

5. If gravity doesn't exist, then what's pulling us towards the ground?

6. How can you beat your own wife and say you love her? We are supposed to be like Jesus, I don't think Jesus, ever in the bible, beat anyone. Ever.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

I am an evangelican christian. I love Jesus! but i disagree with your beliefs.

Just a few questions:
Don't mean to judge any of you.

1. Why do you call unbelievers "trash"? Jesus died for them...

2. If the earth is flat, how can you go around the world and end up in the same place? (Say I start from the center of the so called flat earth..)

3. If you guys are so against science, why are you conducting science experiments?

4. Why is it so hard to believe in gravity and the laws of physics? God created man.. you think he created us stupid? Sure we fell into sin, and I agree there are some times when science goes too far (like evolution) but come on... "An object in constant motion will stay in constant motion unless acted upon by another force." That sounds about right to me.. If I drop a ball from the roof, it'll keep going straight down unless another force is applied. Am I right?

5. If gravity doesn't exist, then what's pulling us towards the ground?

6. How can you beat your own wife and say you love her? We are supposed to be like Jesus, I don't think Jesus, ever in the bible, beat anyone. Ever.

First of all, this is NOT a debate forum. Please read THIS thread before making an even bigger fool of yourself.

Secondly, while the internets might seem to be "free" to you, this particular corner of the internets is a privately owned Christian forum. The rights you have on this forum are listed HERE. Please contact a Pastor immediately if you feel that any of your rights have been violated.

Finally, your unsaved opinions or tantrums are not even slightly of interest to us. We follow the Holy Word of God TO THE LETTER, and make no apologies for that. One of the most important commandments in the Bible tells us to avoid unsaved scum such as yourself. You wandered in here uninvited, and unwelcome .


Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself.

I will pray that the Holy Spirit enter you and chase the demons out of your rectum and let Jesus fill you with His Grace. If you use your God-given free will to reject Christ and His temporary death on the cross for my sins, then you are sending yourself to hellfire.

[Evang. Christian]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

First of all, this is NOT a debate forum. Please read THIS thread before making an even bigger fool of yourself.

One of the most important commandments in the Bible tells us to avoid unsaved scum such as yourself. You wandered in here uninvited, and unwelcome .

I have no quarrel with you guys, and it seems like for the past 500 pages all these people have been doing is debating. Shouldn't you embrace this opportunity to tell me more about your beliefs?

Were you an unsaved scum at one point in your life? What if "True Christians" avoided you, would you be here right now?

Again, I just want some answers, firstly based on this thread, and now these new ones.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

I have no quarrel with you guys, and it seems like for the past 500 pages all these people have been doing is debating. Shouldn't you embrace this opportunity to tell me more about your beliefs?

Were you an unsaved scum at one point in your life? What if "True Christians" avoided you, would you be here right now?

Again, I just want some answers, firstly based on this thread, and now these new ones.

We aren't here to spoon feed you, godmocker. Go back and read this thread from the beginning. ALL of your questions have been answered.

If you'd like to find out more about Landover Baptist Church, please read THIS thread created especially for new posters.

If you have a question, use the "search" function before posting it. Most likely it is being discussed somewhere on this Godly forum. Please don't waste God's precious bandwidth.

You will keep a respectful tongue in your head whenever addressing your betters, which includes all True Christians™. Failure to do so, or any attempt at inciting debate or mockery of God's Divine Plan, can and will result in the suspension of your posting privileges.

Your rights on this forum are listed HERE. If you feel that any of these rights have been violated, please don't hesitate to contact a Pastor at once.

[BelieverInGod]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

I am an evangelican christian. I love Jesus! but i disagree with your beliefs.

Just a few questions:
Don't mean to judge any of you.

1. Why do you call unbelievers "trash"? Jesus died for them...

Really? Where in the Bible does it say that Jesus died for the unbelieving God mockers?

2. If the earth is flat, how can you go around the world and end up in the same place? (Say I start from the center of the so called flat earth..)

You people really have difficulty understanding the concept of a circle, don't you.

3. If you guys are so against science, why are you conducting science experiments?

We're against false sickular science that mocks God, but if you were a True Christian(TM) you would already know this.

4. Why is it so hard to believe in gravity and the laws of physics? God created man.. you think he created us stupid?

You haven't been on the Internets very long have you....

Sure we fell into sin, and I agree there are some times when science goes too far (like evolution) but come on...

So you think the Bible is right about creation, but God lied about the world being flat? You know better than God?

"An object in constant motion will stay in constant motion unless acted upon by another force." That sounds about right to me.. If I drop a ball from the roof, it'll keep going straight down unless another force is applied. Am I right?

Extreme simplification of that theory. Oh, and since when is the ground "a force"?

5. If gravity doesn't exist, then what's pulling us towards the ground?

read this thread, it will answer your questions

6. How can you beat your own wife and say you love her? We are supposed to be like Jesus, I don't think Jesus, ever in the bible, beat anyone. Ever.

How old are you? You obviously know nothing about adult relationships and the stresses involved in raising a family. Oh, and Jesus never beat anyone? Care to explain this then?

John 2:13-16 And the Jews' passover was at hand, and Jesus went up to Jerusalem. And found in the temple those that sold oxen and sheep and doves, and the changers of money sitting: And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers' money, and overthrew the tables; And said unto them that sold doves, Take these things hence; make not my Father's house an house of merchandise.

For an "evangelical Christian" you sure don't know your Bible very well. Have you even taken the shrink-wrap off of it?

[Evang. Christian]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

Really? Where in the Bible does it say that Jesus died for the unbelieving God mockers?

John 3:16 (For God so loved the WORLD...that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.)

1 Peter 3:18

You people really have difficulty understanding the concept of a circle, don't you.

If you mean going around a circle (x axis) then the closer you get to the center, the faster it will be to come back to that point?

If you mean going around a circle (y axis, or going under), what's under our earth?

So you think the Bible is right about creation, but God lied about the world being flat? You know better than God?

I believe God created the heavens and the earth, but nowhere does it say the earth is flat. If you can show me I'd appreciate it, and I know it's probably already in this thread, but im not going through 500 pages.

Extreme simplification of that theory. Oh, and since when is the ground "a force"?

Its called "Normal Force" It's the force that counters the force of gravity. Otherwise we'd keep going down. But we don't, because another force is pushing us up and is cancelling the force of gravity, therefore there is no acceleration vertically.(y axis)

How old are you? You obviously know nothing about adult relationships and the stresses involved in raising a family. Oh, and Jesus never beat anyone? Care to explain this then?

I'm 18 and I understand adult relationships and families, even though I don't have experience, and I don't see the need to beat someone only because I follow Jesus' example.

John 2:13-16 And the Jews' passover was at hand, and Jesus went up to Jerusalem. And found in the temple those that sold oxen and sheep and doves, and the changers of money sitting: And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers' money, and overthrew the tables; And said unto them that sold doves, Take these things hence; make not my Father's house an house of merchandise.

When Jesus drove those doing business out of the temple courts, He did not do it in a flash of anger. He carefully took the time to make a whip of cords, and thought carefully about what He would do.

Can you show me another verse where he beat someone out of anger?
Unrighteous anger.