[Rev. M. Rodimer]

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And yes our sins are washed away when we accept Christ, and he forgives us when we sin after that and ask for forgiveness, but we still continue sinning. We try to live the way God wants us to live, and obviously not sin, but we do.

Really?

Please explain 1 John 2 and 1 John 3, in which it is clearly stated that those who are of God do not sin, and only those who are of the devil sin.

[AmericaRocks]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

We know the Earth is flat because the Bible tells us so. But for those of you skeptical, close-minded types that flat out refuse to accept the overwhelming Biblical evidence, I have designed some experiments you can do at home that will show you, before your very eyes, that the world is indeed flat, and not spherical as some crazy scientists proclaim. It's amazing how many people blindly believe in a spherical Earth, without ever having seen it for themselves! I intend to change that.


1) Jump!
Now, scientists claim that Earth is spherical and rotating at a speed of between 700-1000 miles per hour, depending on your latitude. This is a very high rate of speed. You can disprove this nonsense by simply jumping up as high as you can. Really, it's that simple. What happens when you jump? You come straight down to where you were. But, if the Earth were indeed spinning at such a fast speed, wouldn't you land hundreds of feet away?

If you were to stand in the flat bed of a truck going 75 mph, and jump straight up, what would happen? You wouldn't fall straight down. You would fall out of the truck. That's because trucks move, the Earth doesn't. This experiment proves the Earth is fixed in space and doesn't move.


2) Blow!
Since if the Earth is supposedly a sphere, it naturally comes to assume what would happen to people below the equator, like in Australia? Since they are underneath the sphere, wouldn't they fall off? This is where scientists come up with mumbo-jumbo like "gravity" and "centrifugal force" to explain away their theories. So, the scientists want you to think that because the earth is so much more massive than people or things, that people will naturally "stick" to the bottom of the earth because of gravity.

This can be disproved very simply. Get a balloon and inflate it as big as possible. It will be a spherical shape. Now, take a piece of paper and try to rip, tear, or cut the tiniest speck of paper possible. This paper represents a human being, much smaller in mass to the balloon, which represents the Earth. Now try and place the small piece of paper to the underside of the balloon. What happens? It falls off!

That's right. Even though the balloon is so much bigger in mass, it cannot hold the tiny paper. So if the Earth was a sphere, no one could live below the equator because they would fall off.


3) Get High!
Ok, this one you really can't do at home, but you can do it out in the world. Stand on the ground and look around you. What's the farthest you can see? Maybe it's a building, tree, or mountain. Now, find some place very close to it where you can get a much higher vantage point. (This also works if you're on a jet and about to take off.) Notice how in the higher place you can see much farther? You can see more of the world the higher you get. This shows the world is flat because the higher you go, the easier it is to see over obstacles. At the same time, it shows the world cannot be spherical. Because if the world was curved, the far distance would forever remain out of view because of the Earth's curvature. It would eternally be over the horizon.

If the Earth was a sphere, it would not matter how high you went, you would still see the same thing. Since this is not the case, the Earth is flat.


These experiments are all confirmed by creation scientists as being 100% accurate. If you're skeptical of the flat Earth, why don't you do these experiments so you can see truth with your own eyes.

Yours in Christ,

Rev. Jim Osborne

After reading this post, I officially believe this site is just a practical joke. ARE YOU SERIOUS!!! The EARTH IS FLAT and you still believe that. I am so dumbstruck, I can not even argue with this. Here are my counter points

1) Jump... Why are we not in a different place. Centripetal Force <--- Bam that got answered

2) Blow. The balloon does not have a large enough mass. Dont Mess with Newton's F = Gm1m2/r2 equation. Though Gravity is a theory now and that Einstein's warped theory is being more accepted.

3) The main point is that the Earth is very large and you are not. Locally a round object, like the Earth, appears flat, even though it is really sloping away from you in every direction.

Try this experiment with a round balloon. Inflate it a little, so that the balloon starts to stretch and has no loose spots left. Holding the neck (the part you blew in), hold the rest of the balloon above your hand, so that the part of the balloon opposite the neck is on top and the neck is on the bottom. Raise the balloon to your eye level, so that you are looking along the top. The balloon slopes away from the very top quite quickly, and it is easy to see the roundness of the balloon.

Now blow the balloon up quite a bit more. When you have inflated it some more, hold it the same way as before and look along the top again. Now that the balloon is larger, the side of the balloon does not slope down as much and the top appears a little flatter.

[María Gálvez-Villalobos]

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After reading this post, I officially believe this site is just a practical joke. ARE YOU SERIOUS!!! The EARTH IS FLAT and you still believe that. I am so dumbstruck, I can not even argue with this. Here are my counter points

1) Jump... Why are we not in a different place. Centripetal Force <--- Bam that got answered

2) Blow. The balloon does not have a large enough mass. Dont Mess with Newton's F = Gm1m2/r2 equation. Though Gravity is a theory now and that Einstein's warped theory is being more accepted.

3) The main point is that the Earth is very large and you are not. Locally a round object, like the Earth, appears flat, even though it is really sloping away from you in every direction.

Try this experiment with a round balloon. Inflate it a little, so that the balloon starts to stretch and has no loose spots left. Holding the neck (the part you blew in), hold the rest of the balloon above your hand, so that the part of the balloon opposite the neck is on top and the neck is on the bottom. Raise the balloon to your eye level, so that you are looking along the top. The balloon slopes away from the very top quite quickly, and it is easy to see the roundness of the balloon.

Now blow the balloon up quite a bit more. When you have inflated it some more, hold it the same way as before and look along the top again. Now that the balloon is larger, the side of the balloon does not slope down as much and the top appears a little flatter.

I think is no very clever to talk about stuff you no understand very good. I mean balloon's is no flat. Not ever. If a balloon would be flat it no be a balloon, it would be perhap rubber glove of tablecloth maked of rubber but not a balloon. I think you should to leave the hard stuff for pastors to explain you. Just a few advices from cristian lady.

[DurkSimmons]

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We know the Earth is flat because the Bible tells us so. But for those of you skeptical, close-minded types that flat out refuse to accept the overwhelming Biblical evidence, I have designed some experiments you can do at home that will show you, before your very eyes, that the world is indeed flat, and not spherical as some crazy scientists proclaim. It's amazing how many people blindly believe in a spherical Earth, without ever having seen it for themselves! I intend to change that.


1) Jump!
Now, scientists claim that Earth is spherical and rotating at a speed of between 700-1000 miles per hour, depending on your latitude. This is a very high rate of speed. You can disprove this nonsense by simply jumping up as high as you can. Really, it's that simple. What happens when you jump? You come straight down to where you were. But, if the Earth were indeed spinning at such a fast speed, wouldn't you land hundreds of feet away?

If you were to stand in the flat bed of a truck going 75 mph, and jump straight up, what would happen? You wouldn't fall straight down. You would fall out of the truck. That's because trucks move, the Earth doesn't. This experiment proves the Earth is fixed in space and doesn't move.


2) Blow!
Since if the Earth is supposedly a sphere, it naturally comes to assume what would happen to people below the equator, like in Australia? Since they are underneath the sphere, wouldn't they fall off? This is where scientists come up with mumbo-jumbo like "gravity" and "centrifugal force" to explain away their theories. So, the scientists want you to think that because the earth is so much more massive than people or things, that people will naturally "stick" to the bottom of the earth because of gravity.

This can be disproved very simply. Get a balloon and inflate it as big as possible. It will be a spherical shape. Now, take a piece of paper and try to rip, tear, or cut the tiniest speck of paper possible. This paper represents a human being, much smaller in mass to the balloon, which represents the Earth. Now try and place the small piece of paper to the underside of the balloon. What happens? It falls off!

That's right. Even though the balloon is so much bigger in mass, it cannot hold the tiny paper. So if the Earth was a sphere, no one could live below the equator because they would fall off.


3) Get High!
Ok, this one you really can't do at home, but you can do it out in the world. Stand on the ground and look around you. What's the farthest you can see? Maybe it's a building, tree, or mountain. Now, find some place very close to it where you can get a much higher vantage point. (This also works if you're on a jet and about to take off.) Notice how in the higher place you can see much farther? You can see more of the world the higher you get. This shows the world is flat because the higher you go, the easier it is to see over obstacles. At the same time, it shows the world cannot be spherical. Because if the world was curved, the far distance would forever remain out of view because of the Earth's curvature. It would eternally be over the horizon.

If the Earth was a sphere, it would not matter how high you went, you would still see the same thing. Since this is not the case, the Earth is flat.


These experiments are all confirmed by creation scientists as being 100% accurate. If you're skeptical of the flat Earth, why don't you do these experiments so you can see truth with your own eyes.

Yours in Christ,

Rev. Jim Osborne

Let's see science tackle these arguments!

Okay,tackling away!
1) JUMP! You seem to have forgotten one huge aspect of the earth spinning 700-1000 MPH, and it's called our atmosphere. It's made of different layers, and protects our mother earth from that force. That's why you'll fall out of your theoretical truck. And btw, it you had REALLY accurate measuring devices, it would show that you did indeed move, albeit a fraction of a fraction an inch. The atmosphere also envelops the air you are jumping in, and breathing. What is holding the air down, in your flat earth theory? Moving on-
2) Blow! 'Cmon, even you have to admit that that Gravity mumbo jumbo stuff works, you proved it yourself back there in number one, Jump! and you come back down, so ahem, there's your gravity. And just to add, it's not the spherical shape, it's the mass of the object in relation TO THE SPACE AROUND IT that results in a gravitational field. You can't see an additional gravitational force within an existing gravitational field because the mass of whatever you hold is ALREADY included in the total mass of the earth, balloon and paper included.
Additionally, Magnetic fields are also missing in your theory, odd. And again we move on-
3) I have to quote you directly here...
"Because if the world was curved, the far distance would forever remain out of view because of the Earth's curvature. It would eternally be over the horizon" Sorry to break your bubble bub, but the distance IS forever on the horizon, just like you stated. I guess you've never been out in the open ocean. It's pretty easy to see the curvature out there. Also from a plane, so I'm guessing you've never flown before either.
If the Earth was a sphere, it would not matter how high you went, you would still see the same thing. Since this is not the case, the Earth is flat.
Where is the logic in that statement, you would still see the same thing? Huh?
So there you go, Scientific Proof the earth is a sphere, cause really, it isn't exactly round...

[True Disciple]

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Okay,tackling away!
1) JUMP! You seem to have forgotten one huge aspect of the earth spinning 700-1000 MPH, and it's called our atmosphere. It's made of different layers, and protects our mother earth from that force. That's why you'll fall out of your theoretical truck. And btw, it you had REALLY accurate measuring devices, it would show that you did indeed move, albeit a fraction of a fraction an inch. The atmosphere also envelops the air you are jumping in, and breathing. What is holding the air down, in your flat earth theory? Moving on-

If it were true what you said, why don't we feel a 700-1000 MPH constant wind blowing west?

And Intelligent Falling is what's holding the atmosphere down, of course. Every True Christian(tm) knows that.

2) Blow! 'Cmon, even you have to admit that that Gravity mumbo jumbo stuff works, you proved it yourself back there in number one, Jump! and you come back down, so ahem, there's your gravity.

This argument of yours is a non-sequitur. You just assume that the falling down of things is because of gravity, but you neglect to appreciate that there are other theories about this as well, which are kept out of classrooms by conspiring atheist scientists. Again, I refer to my article about Intelligent Falling, which is the theory most consistent with God's Word in the Bible.

And just to add, it's not the spherical shape, it's the mass of the object in relation TO THE SPACE AROUND IT that results in a gravitational field. You can't see an additional gravitational force within an existing gravitational field because the mass of whatever you hold is ALREADY included in the total mass of the earth, balloon and paper included.

No scientist has ever accurately explained why objects with mass would exert this "gravitational force." However, Intelligent Falling has an answer: objects attract other objects because of God's Will.

"Because if the world was curved, the far distance would forever remain out of view because of the Earth's curvature. It would eternally be over the horizon" Sorry to break your bubble bub, but the distance IS forever on the horizon, just like you stated. I guess you've never been out in the open ocean. It's pretty easy to see the curvature out there. Also from a plane, so I'm guessing you've never flown before either.

The reason the earth seems curved from a plane is because the image is distorted by the windows we look through. It has nothing to do with the shape of the Earth.

[dumguyrobc]

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Your experiments are more like 100% wrong.

1) My grandfather, a God-fearing Christian, was in the aerospace industry. He has been in near-space aircraft to take pictures that show the curvature of the earth. Not to mention, if you're on a long plane ride and up high enough, you can see the curvature yourself.

2) If the earth is flat, explain where the sun goes when it goes down. It doesn't go under a "flat earth" because then the entire earth would go an entire day with no light.

3) If you live in America and it's a Tuesday. And you leave on a red eye flight in the middle of the night to a country west of the United States, you can beat the sun to its Wednesday destination. This would be impossible if the world was flat.

4) If the world is flat then why do:
+ People in the US fly WEST to China.
+ People in China fly WEST to the United Kingdom.
+ People in the United Kingdom fly WEST to the US.
Yet another thing that would be impossible if the world was flat.

You cannot disprove this. It is proven everyday, regularly, by Christians and non-Christians alike.

[True Disciple]

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Your experiments are more like 100% wrong.

1) My grandfather, a God-fearing Christian, was in the aerospace industry. He has been in near-space aircraft to take pictures that show the curvature of the earth. Not to mention, if you're on a long plane ride and up high enough, you can see the curvature yourself.

That argument is debunked in the post directly above yours. Please take the effort to read at list some part of the thread before replying.

2) If the earth is flat, explain where the sun goes when it goes down. It doesn't go under a "flat earth" because then the entire earth would go an entire day with no light.

Who says then that that's not exactly what is happening?

3) If you live in America and it's a Tuesday. And you leave on a red eye flight in the middle of the night to a country west of the United States, you can beat the sun to its Wednesday destination. This would be impossible if the world was flat.

4) If the world is flat then why do:
+ People in the US fly WEST to China.
+ People in China fly WEST to the United Kingdom.
+ People in the United Kingdom fly WEST to the US.
Yet another thing that would be impossible if the world was flat.

You are mistaken. When we fly westwards from the United States, the spin of the earth under the plane generates an Intelligent Pulling Effect (a subclass of Intelligent Falling), and the plane flies in a curved trajecture towards the easternmost part of the earth, Hawaii. The illusion of a straight path is known as the Horizon Distortion Effect.

You cannot disprove this. It is proven everyday, regularly, by Christians and non-Christians alike.

Oh yes, I can:

Genesis 11:4-6:
And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth.
And the LORD came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men builded.
And the LORD said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do.

Job 9:6:
Which shaketh the earth out of her place, and the pillars thereof tremble.

Job 38:12-13:
Hast thou commanded the morning since thy days; and caused the dayspring to know his place;
That it might take hold of the ends of the earth, that the wicked might be shaken out of it?

Psalm 104:5:
Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be removed for ever.

Isaiah 11:12:
And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.

Matthew 4:8:
Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;

Acts 7:49:
Heaven is my throne, and earth is my footstool: what house will ye build me? saith the Lord: or what is the place of my rest?

Hebrews 1:10-12:
And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:
They shall perish; but thou remainest; and they all shall wax old as doth a garment;
And as a vesture shalt thou fold them up, and they shall be changed: but thou art the same, and thy years shall not fail.

[Alexchris2]

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Are you freaking stupid? Whats am i asking yes you are, i bet you havent even finished first grade school, not even my dog would believe the things you say here. Have you even been in a plane apes? Flat earth, i mean whats next, that the moon is made out of cheese?
In a few years Virgin will be sending the first tourists into space, just go and you will be proven wrong. Oh what am i saying you are all losers, useless and probably jobless, you cant afford it. So yeah keep believing in the flat eart theory

[Cursed]

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Are you freaking stupid? Whats am i asking yes you are, i bet you havent even finished first grade school, not even my dog would believe the things you say here. Have you even been in a plane apes? Flat earth, i mean whats next, that the moon is made out of cheese?
In a few years Virgin will be sending the first tourists into space, just go and you will be proven wrong. Oh what am i saying you are all losers, useless and probably jobless, you cant afford it. So yeah keep believing in the flat eart theory

Hello Ms. Chris, and welcome to God's Favorite Forum!

Please introduce yourself here, in the aptly named "Introduction Forum." Let us know what church you go to, how you came to find our Beloved Lord Jesus Christ, and your favorite 1611 King James Bible verse; you know, the important stuff!

I can't wait to get to know you. I hope we can be very good friends soon!

[True Disciple]

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Are you freaking stupid? Whats am i asking yes you are, i bet you havent even finished first grade school, not even my dog would believe the things you say here. Have you even been in a plane apes? Flat earth, i mean whats next, that the moon is made out of cheese?

Probably. We don't really know yet:

Is the Moon really made out of cheese?

In a few years Virgin will be sending the first tourists into space, just go and you will be proven wrong. Oh what am i saying you are all losers, useless and probably jobless, you cant afford it. So yeah keep believing in the flat eart theory

Only a complete idiot would pay millions of dollars to sit in some simulator designed to deceive people into thinking that they are in space. It's just the Moon Landing Hoax all over again.

[miki44]

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Dear Rev. Jim,

As you've mentioned, according to the initial link, in which says

Revelation 7:1:
And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree

It does go to show that the Earth is flat.

But what troubles me is this, if you too agreed that the world is flat, then why are you depicting Earth as a sphere in your signature?

[Talitha]

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Dear Rev. Jim,

But what troubles me is this, if you too agreed that the world is flat, then why are you depicting Earth as a sphere in your signature?

That picture looks VERY flat to me.

[miki44]

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Wokay it does seem flat to me, forgot to take off my 3D Sony glasses. They work really good. Wearing it while walking around does make everything looks very 3D to me. Perhaps some of you might want to consider purchasing one or two of these things.
They look something like this
*** Removed insanely large image ***

Back to the question, now while it does seem very flat to me now after I've taken off my Sony 3D glasses (so does everything else, my wife's chest seems flatter too all of a sudden), in the Revelations 7:1, it stated four corners of the earth. Now, this further troubles me, as the Earth image seems to be round and not having any corners at all.

Dear Sister Talitha, perhaps you can be of assistance to open up my eyes?
Thanks

[miki44]

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Oh dear the image I posted is too big. How do I edit or remove it?

[Alvin]

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But what troubles me is this, if you too agreed that the world is flat, then why are you depicting Earth as a sphere in your signature?

That picture looks VERY flat to me.

I have checked this with a ruler and can confirm that Sister Talitha is correct: The picture is indeed absolutely flat, just like Earth.

Actually, you could have easily noticed that Rev. Osborne's picture of earth is not one of the standard fakes created by the spherical earth conspiracists, without going all rotund on us.

Even a cursory glance reveals it to be a Biblically accurate picture of Earth taken at a time when the flood waters had still not fully receeded... note how the strait of Gibraltar is shown to be about 5000 miles wide and both Florida and Great Britain are still fully submerged in holy water! This must have been a bit before Noah's 601st Birthday.

Genesis 7:19-24
[6] And Noah was six hundred years old when the flood of waters was upon the earth.
[19] And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were covered.
Fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail; and the mountains were covered.
And all flesh died that moved upon the earth, both of fowl, and of cattle, and of beast, and of every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth, and every man:
All in whose nostrils was the breath of life, of all that was in the dry land, died.
And every living substance was destroyed which was upon the face of the ground, both man, and cattle, and the creeping things, and the fowl of the heaven; and they were destroyed from the earth: and Noah only remained alive, and they that were with him in the ark.
And the waters prevailed upon the earth an hundred and fifty days.

Now - who but GOD would have known what the Earth looked like during the flood? Exactly: NOBODY! Further proof that GOD exists, as shared by Rev. Osborne in a humble graphic of the postdiluvian world.

PRAISE the LORD, the Architect of Reality, the ultimate Knower and Destroyer of Things!


Alvin