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  • Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

    Originally posted by Necal Vorrac View Post
    Unfortunatly, these do not conform with the foolish 'logic' of atheistic 'scientists'. Such a thing would be required in order to prove to them that they are wrong in such a way they can understand it.

    First, the 'jump' test. This would not convice those not already convinced because of the belief that inertia and gravity would keep you with Earth.

    Second, the 'blow' test. This would not convince those not already convinced because the earth's gravitational pull is considered to be sufficient to overpower the gravitational pull of everything on it to the extent that, in terms of gravity, we add to the mass (and thus gravity) of earth.

    Third, the 'get high' test. This also doesn't work because, as you are getting higher, the angle at which you could pick something up would increase. Thus, you would have to be incredibly high for it to take effect; the required height would probably be too much to afford for most of us, or would be otherwise obscured or limited (cloud cover or the sea would make it difficult).

    I am just attempting to point out why this argument would only get a positive from believers; it would not be considered proof to unbelievers, which would be an obvious purpose for proof.
    Well I for one am really glad you bothered to read the thread If you had, you would of seen that we've already discussed your issues.

    1. I stand up in a pickup I fall down, why does that happen? I'm going the speed of the pickup.

    2. So the bigger the object the better the grip? Yet when I put the paper on a balloon, I had to blow hard. I put it on a toy ball, I had to slightly blow, I put it on a horse Jolly ball (big and hard) and it just fell off. There are other things explained throughout this thread that you didn't bother to read.

    3. We've shown pictures taken from airplanes with a straight horizon.

    But hey, thanks for posting your already debunked answers, I'm sure your mommy is very proud of you.
    Drama queen

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    • Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

      Originally posted by Necal Vorrac View Post
      Unfortunatly, these do not conform with the foolish 'logic' of atheistic 'scientists'. Such a thing would be required in order to prove to them that they are wrong in such a way they can understand it.

      First, the 'jump' test. This would not convice those not already convinced because of the belief that inertia and gravity would keep you with Earth.

      Second, the 'blow' test. This would not convince those not already convinced because the earth's gravitational pull is considered to be sufficient to overpower the gravitational pull of everything on it to the extent that, in terms of gravity, we add to the mass (and thus gravity) of earth.

      Third, the 'get high' test. This also doesn't work because, as you are getting higher, the angle at which you could pick something up would increase. Thus, you would have to be incredibly high for it to take effect; the required height would probably be too much to afford for most of us, or would be otherwise obscured or limited (cloud cover or the sea would make it difficult).

      I am just attempting to point out why this argument would only get a positive from believers; it would not be considered proof to unbelievers, which would be an obvious purpose for proof.
      Why did you not read the previous postings on this topic.
      You would have noticed what have said is incorrect, the earth is flat.
      Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth
      Proverbs 19:25 Smite a scorner, and the simple will beware: and reprove one that hath understanding, and he will understand knowledge.
      Ezekiel 16:14 And thy renown went forth among the heathen for thy beauty: for it was perfect through my comeliness, which I had put upon thee, saith the Lord GOD.
      Proverbs 6:25 Lust not after her beauty in thine heart; neither let her take thee with her eyelids.
      Genesis 24:16 And the damsel was very fair to look upon, a virgin, neither had any man known her: and she went down to the well, and filled her pitcher, and came up.
      Song of Solomon 1:15 Behold, thou art fair, my love; behold, thou art fair; thou hast doves' eyes.

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      • Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

        Originally posted by BelieverInGod View Post
        Well I for one am really glad you bothered to read the thread If you had, you would of seen that we've already discussed your issues.

        1. I stand up in a pickup I fall down, why does that happen? I'm going the speed of the pickup.

        2. So the bigger the object the better the grip? Yet when I put the paper on a balloon, I had to blow hard. I put it on a toy ball, I had to slightly blow, I put it on a horse Jolly ball (big and hard) and it just fell off. There are other things explained throughout this thread that you didn't bother to read.

        3. We've shown pictures taken from airplanes with a straight horizon.

        But hey, thanks for posting your already debunked answers, I'm sure your mommy is very proud of you.

        Sorry, I don't normally take the time to read through 54 pages of threads. Let me extrapolate.

        1. Wind resistance.

        2. Not the bigger the object the better the grip; more mass = more gravity. Besides, the shred of paper = human and balloon = earth... not equivalent comparisons. Earth is not filled with air, and the shred of paper, no matter how small you can make it, probably would be much larger than a human in a scale model.

        3. North America cannot be seen from england.

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        • Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

          Originally posted by Necal Vorrac View Post
          Sorry, I don't normally take the time to read through 54 pages of threads.
          That is very rude of you. Do you always but into conversations and discuss things already spoken about.
          Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth
          Proverbs 19:25 Smite a scorner, and the simple will beware: and reprove one that hath understanding, and he will understand knowledge.
          Ezekiel 16:14 And thy renown went forth among the heathen for thy beauty: for it was perfect through my comeliness, which I had put upon thee, saith the Lord GOD.
          Proverbs 6:25 Lust not after her beauty in thine heart; neither let her take thee with her eyelids.
          Genesis 24:16 And the damsel was very fair to look upon, a virgin, neither had any man known her: and she went down to the well, and filled her pitcher, and came up.
          Song of Solomon 1:15 Behold, thou art fair, my love; behold, thou art fair; thou hast doves' eyes.

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          • Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

            Originally posted by Necal Vorrac View Post
            Sorry, I don't normally take the time to read through 54 pages of threads. Let me extrapolate.


            3. North America cannot be seen from england.
            So what? Of course there are mountains silly and it is rare that someone can see over a mountaintop to see the other side when at the base of the mountain. Countries are big too. Gosh I cannot see even the next state from where I live, let alone another country! get a grip and see logic!!

            The earth is flat, but that does not mean that it is like a piece of paper flat. IF you had bothered to look past your own irrational mindset and looked at some of the replies, you would see that Mistress Cookie gave a wonderful observation by showing the earth as being like a Pie, with a lattice or crumble top.

            See, when it is explained properly, it all makes perfect sense.

            YIC,

            Mrs.P.Wintersnow.




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            • Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

              Originally posted by Necal Vorrac View Post
              Sorry, I don't normally take the time to read through 54 pages of threads. Let me extrapolate.

              1. Wind resistance.

              2. Not the bigger the object the better the grip; more mass = more gravity. Besides, the shred of paper = human and balloon = earth... not equivalent comparisons. Earth is not filled with air, and the shred of paper, no matter how small you can make it, probably would be much larger than a human in a scale model.

              3. North America cannot be seen from england.
              Perhaps you should go back through. This has all been explained by our local scientheologists.

              1. Hey, I was told that if I jumped up and down in a car that I wouldn't move, well it was a lie.

              2. I used 3 different balls. A Jolly ball is big, it's a horse toy that it strong thick plastic, way more mass than a balloon. It can take a horse kicking it into the side of a barn without being destroyed. According to your theory the paper should of held onto the jolly ball harder because the jolly ball has more mass. Yet I couldn't even get it to stick, whereas it did stick to the balloon. So no, more mass does not mean more sticking power.

              3. Of course not, and when my husband is out back hunting with the dog, I can't see them without high powered glasses. Our eyes can only see so well, then there's haze, fog, whatever.

              I really hate repeating myself.
              Drama queen

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              • Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

                Originally posted by BelieverInGod View Post
                Perhaps you should go back through. This has all been explained by our local scientheologists.

                1. Hey, I was told that if I jumped up and down in a car that I wouldn't move, well it was a lie.

                2. I used 3 different balls. A Jolly ball is big, it's a horse toy that it strong thick plastic, way more mass than a balloon. It can take a horse kicking it into the side of a barn without being destroyed. According to your theory the paper should of held onto the jolly ball harder because the jolly ball has more mass. Yet I couldn't even get it to stick, whereas it did stick to the balloon. So no, more mass does not mean more sticking power.

                3. Of course not, and when my husband is out back hunting with the dog, I can't see them without high powered glasses. Our eyes can only see so well, then there's haze, fog, whatever.

                I really hate repeating myself.
                Sister,

                I think I now understand why he is such a naysayer. He believes in all that sci-fi jargon and lingo and to him that horrid George Lucas fellow is probably his god. He "has to" believe that the world is spherical or his god's "reality" would be a lie (like WE all know it is anyway). Some people like this necrophilia person just cannot see past their own desired outcome and by doing so, mock God and His word.


                YIC,

                Mrs.P.Wintersnow




                There's Jesus here,
                Just see what He offers me....
                Down here my sins forgiven,
                Up there a home in heaven
                Praise God, That's the way for me!!

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                • Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

                  Originally posted by Mrs. P Wintersnow View Post
                  Sister,

                  I think I now understand why he is such a naysayer. He believes in all that sci-fi jargon and lingo and to him that horrid George Lucas fellow is probably his god. He "has to" believe that the world is spherical or his god's "reality" would be a lie (like WE all know it is anyway). Some people like this necrophilia person just cannot see past their own desired outcome and by doing so, mock God and His word.


                  YIC,

                  Mrs.P.Wintersnow
                  Mrs.P.Wintersnow he is most likely now trying to find some pictures taken from space. We all know these photos were taken from movie sets.
                  Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth
                  Proverbs 19:25 Smite a scorner, and the simple will beware: and reprove one that hath understanding, and he will understand knowledge.
                  Ezekiel 16:14 And thy renown went forth among the heathen for thy beauty: for it was perfect through my comeliness, which I had put upon thee, saith the Lord GOD.
                  Proverbs 6:25 Lust not after her beauty in thine heart; neither let her take thee with her eyelids.
                  Genesis 24:16 And the damsel was very fair to look upon, a virgin, neither had any man known her: and she went down to the well, and filled her pitcher, and came up.
                  Song of Solomon 1:15 Behold, thou art fair, my love; behold, thou art fair; thou hast doves' eyes.

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                  • Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

                    Originally posted by BelieverInGod View Post
                    2. I used 3 different balls. A Jolly ball is big, it's a horse toy that it strong thick plastic, way more mass than a balloon. It can take a horse kicking it into the side of a barn without being destroyed. According to your theory the paper should of held onto the jolly ball harder because the jolly ball has more mass. Yet I couldn't even get it to stick, whereas it did stick to the balloon. So no, more mass does not mean more sticking power.

                    Once again you are comparing the gravitational pull of our entire planet with a small ball you found lying around in your garden. A 4 pound ball, a 2 pound ball, a 5000 pound ball has no measurable gravity compared to that of our earth.

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                    • Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

                      Originally posted by Cretin View Post
                      Once again you are comparing the gravitational pull of our entire planet with a small ball you found lying around in your garden. A 4 pound ball, a 2 pound ball, a 5000 pound ball has no measurable gravity compared to that of our earth.
                      Why not Mr Scientist? Is it because your theory isn't consistent?

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                      • Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

                        Originally posted by Dirk View Post
                        Why not Mr Scientist? Is it because your theory isn't consistent?
                        It is very consistant actually. Like posted before, the earth's weight is 6,000,000,000,000 ,000,000,000,000 kilograms. You are comparing that to a ball that weighs 2 kilograms. The earth's weight gives it a gravitational pull of 9.81 m/s2. I would guess that ball has a gravitational pull of about 0.0000000000000000000000001 m/s2. Yet you still think you can compare the two. I'm sorry to resort to this, but you have to be freaking retarded to think that is actually a viable comparison.

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                        • Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

                          Originally posted by Cretin View Post
                          It is very consistant actually. Like posted before, the earth's weight is 6,000,000,000,000 ,000,000,000,000 kilograms. You are comparing that to a ball that weighs 2 kilograms. The earth's weight gives it a gravitational pull of 9.81 m/s2. I would guess that ball has a gravitational pull of about 0.0000000000000000000000001 m/s2. Yet you still think you can compare the two. I'm sorry to resort to this, but you have to be freaking retarded to think that is actually a viable comparison.
                          The sun is bigger then earth, so why aren't we pulled by the sun's gratity then?

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                          • Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

                            Originally posted by Dirk View Post
                            The sun is bigger then earth, so why aren't we pulled by the sun's gratity then?
                            Because we're far enough away to remain in orbit around it instead of being sucked into it. It's pretty basic stuff. Like satellites orbiting earth, they aren't pulled down to the planet because they are far enough away to escape the earths gravity. Same with the moon, it's a delicate balance. Except the moon is moving away at a very slow rate. And that is because of it's speed, mass and trajectory.

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                            • Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

                              Originally posted by Dirk View Post
                              The sun is bigger then earth, so why aren't we pulled by the sun's gratity then?
                              We are pulled, we are however at the same time traveling around the sun in a terrestrial orbit.

                              It might also be worth noting that the influence of gravity is decreased over distance: F = G*m1*m2/r^2. You notice that the force grows smaller as the distance gets larger. :3

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                              • Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

                                Originally posted by Cretin View Post
                                Once again you are comparing the gravitational pull of our entire planet with a small ball you found lying around in your garden. A 4 pound ball, a 2 pound ball, a 5000 pound ball has no measurable gravity compared to that of our earth.
                                I won't pretend to know what you are talking about, but I am sure you are quite wrong. All this talk of "gravity" and "mass" is useless nonsense; take for example the silly notion that mass increases when approaching the speed of light. Now, if I rounded up a group of fatties and made them run very fast -- made them chase a sunbeam for instance -- they would lose weight, that is, they would lose mass! And if gravity existed, wouldn't light be attracted only to the morbidly obese? Wouldn't light curve around them, or perhaps be sucked up by them? Light is very lightweight, you see, weighs next to nothing. If gravity existed -- and if the earth were round -- then the world would be lit up constantly, i.e, no night for one side, day for the other. This would be due to the mass of the earth having so much gravity that it yanks the sun's light around itself, much like a very large person donning an enormous cloak.

                                So you see, mass and gravity are an absolute nonsense.
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