[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

At least until Jesus comes back. Can I get an Amen?

Amen!

[I-Hate-Juice]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

Wrong again, in navigation there is something called "blasphemy link deleted". Which is used to account for the curvature of the earth. I know this because my fathers a pilot.

You poor misinformed lost soul The reason why some humans get the feeling of these phenomenons, of earth being a sphere. Is simply because God is constantly testing us, Satan is doing his dirty hanywork and because some humans lack the capability to comprehend the complexity in Gods divine creations.


James 1:3 Knowing this, that the trying of your FAITH worketh patience.

Timothy 5:15 For some are already turned aside after SATAN.

Peter 1:3 According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue:

Some of us intelligent and righteous understand that the lack of faith among some humans, doesn´t affect our faith in God.

Romans 3:3 For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the FAITH of God without effect?

Galatians 3:11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, [it is] evident: for, The just shall live by FAITH.

And if I'm following your logic correctly then all navigators would concur that the earth is flat. If then all navigators believe the earth is flat then it stands to reason that all navigators are superfundamentalist christians.

Navigators who haven´t lost their Faith and who embrace the Love of God, know that the earth is truly flat. Just look at the amount of maps which portray our earth as flat. They are persecuted for believing in the Truth, but can not easily fight the wast amount of non-believers among navigators.

Matthew 5:10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

But believe me when I say, there will come a day when God will punish those who deserve it and have dedicated their lives to give out the words of Satan himself!

Job 1:6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and SATAN came also among them.

Up until today i had no idea that people who believe this even existed. ridiculous.
Yours truly,
Michael

That is unfortunate my friend, that you haven´t found God yet. I pray that you will some day be touched by Him and finally see the Light and the Truth.

Luke 6:28 Bless them that curse you, and PRAY FOR them which despitefully use you.


YiC
Paavali

[finnishedstudent]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

How about... oh, I've got it! how about travelling to the moon, and actually watching tellus, as it spins around? that's pretty convincing!

If you travel north or south a signigicant distance, you will see a
different set of stars at night. This will not happen on a flat surface.

During lunar eclipses, the projected shadow of the earth on the moon is
always round. If the earth were flat, then this projection will not always
be circular (it could degenerate to a line!). But this is never observed,
regardless of the time of the lunar eclipse. Aristotle (384-322 BCE) wrote
about this.

So, Shut up, and get your facts straight!

[I-Hate-Juice]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

How about... oh, I've got it! how about travelling to the moon, and actually watching tellus, as it spins around? that's pretty convincing!

Do you know of any good travelpackages to the moon? I think it would be very expenssive, yet alone impossible to do this trip, but I´m ready to make it if possible. Maybe you are just being silly and don´t realise that it´s very hard to travel to the moon by yourself

Just like the Bible, I need to be able to see it myself to gather the information without somebody falsifying it or simply making it up. Those supposed moonlandings are a big hoax imo.

So, Shut up, and get your facts straight!

You came here, presented some very unconvincing arguments, completly disregarded our arguments which are based upon Gods true words, contineously you call us names (not nice ) and still you haven´t presented one single sound and accurate fact yourself.

How do you think that we are supposed to treat you? With respect or by ignorance?

YiC
Paavali

[True Disciple]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

How about... oh, I've got it! how about travelling to the moon, and actually watching tellus, as it spins around? that's pretty convincing!

Only if you're a gullible, naive and slightly retarded atheist. True Christians(tm) realize that the moon landing was a hoax.

How do we know? Because the Bible teaches that the moon gives light by its own:

Genesis 1:16:
And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.

Isaiah 30:26:
Moreover the light of the moon shall be as the light of the sun, and the light of the sun shall be sevenfold, as the light of seven days, in the day that the LORD bindeth up the breach of his people, and healeth the stroke of their wound.

Isaiah 60:19:
The sun shall be no more thy light by day; neither for brightness shall the moon give light unto thee: but the LORD shall be unto thee an everlasting light, and thy God thy glory.

If you travel north or south a signigicant distance, you will see a
different set of stars at night. This will not happen on a flat surface.

Why not? Clearly, the new stars that appear were initially too far away to be seen.

During lunar eclipses, the projected shadow of the earth on the moon is
always round. If the earth were flat, then this projection will not always
be circular (it could degenerate to a line!). But this is never observed,
regardless of the time of the lunar eclipse. Aristotle (384-322 BCE) wrote
about this.

Of course not. Lunar eclipses don't happen because of the "shadow of the Earth on the moon." I've just shown that God's Word teaches that the moon gives light by itself. We don't exactly know what causes these eclipses. Maybe angels turn of parts of the moon off temporarily for maintenance or something. Who knows?

So, Shut up, and get your facts straight!

That was very rude. All our facts come straight from the Bible, Which is written by God. Who knows better about these things, God Almighty, or you?

[Jeremiah Abernathy]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

How about... oh, I've got it! how about travelling to the moon, and actually watching tellus, as it spins around? that's pretty convincing!

The moon landing was faked, done on a soundstage. Look it up.

If you travel north or south a signigicant distance, you will see a different set of stars at night. This will not happen on a flat surface.

Have you ever been to the "southern hemisphere"? Because I have, and I can tell you the stars look like they always do. Scientists lie about these things all the time to try and push Atheism.

During lunar eclipses, the projected shadow of the earth on the moon is always round. If the earth were flat, then this projection will not always be circular (it could degenerate to a line!). But this is never observed, regardless of the time of the lunar eclipse. Aristotle (384-322 BCE) wrote about this.

Right, so a round object will make a line for a shadow? Circular objects make circular shadows, just like triangles make triangular shadows and squares make square shadows. This is something a child can understand, the real idiocy is Atheists calling it a lie because they don't want to acknowledge the reality of God's existence.

So, Shut up, and get your facts straight!

We have all our biblical facts straight. You however, do not. I suggest you do some real research instead of spewing some mormonic lies that a couple of scientists pulled out of their buttocks one day.

[TheSwedishDude]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

We know the Earth is flat because the Bible tells us so. But for those of you skeptical, close-minded types that flat out refuse to accept the overwhelming Biblical evidence, I have designed some experiments you can do at home that will show you, before your very eyes, that the world is indeed flat, and not spherical as some crazy scientists proclaim. It's amazing how many people blindly believe in a spherical Earth, without ever having seen it for themselves! I intend to change that.


1) Jump!
Now, scientists claim that Earth is spherical and rotating at a speed of between 700-1000 miles per hour, depending on your latitude. This is a very high rate of speed. You can disprove this nonsense by simply jumping up as high as you can. Really, it's that simple. What happens when you jump? You come straight down to where you were. But, if the Earth were indeed spinning at such a fast speed, wouldn't you land hundreds of feet away?

If you were to stand in the flat bed of a truck going 75 mph, and jump straight up, what would happen? You wouldn't fall straight down. You would fall out of the truck. That's because trucks move, the Earth doesn't. This experiment proves the Earth is fixed in space and doesn't move.


2) Blow!
Since if the Earth is supposedly a sphere, it naturally comes to assume what would happen to people below the equator, like in Australia? Since they are underneath the sphere, wouldn't they fall off? This is where scientists come up with mumbo-jumbo like "gravity" and "centrifugal force" to explain away their theories. So, the scientists want you to think that because the earth is so much more massive than people or things, that people will naturally "stick" to the bottom of the earth because of gravity.

This can be disproved very simply. Get a balloon and inflate it as big as possible. It will be a spherical shape. Now, take a piece of paper and try to rip, tear, or cut the tiniest speck of paper possible. This paper represents a human being, much smaller in mass to the balloon, which represents the Earth. Now try and place the small piece of paper to the underside of the balloon. What happens? It falls off!

That's right. Even though the balloon is so much bigger in mass, it cannot hold the tiny paper. So if the Earth was a sphere, no one could live below the equator because they would fall off.


3) Get High!
Ok, this one you really can't do at home, but you can do it out in the world. Stand on the ground and look around you. What's the farthest you can see? Maybe it's a building, tree, or mountain. Now, find some place very close to it where you can get a much higher vantage point. (This also works if you're on a jet and about to take off.) Notice how in the higher place you can see much farther? You can see more of the world the higher you get. This shows the world is flat because the higher you go, the easier it is to see over obstacles. At the same time, it shows the world cannot be spherical. Because if the world was curved, the far distance would forever remain out of view because of the Earth's curvature. It would eternally be over the horizon.

If the Earth was a sphere, it would not matter how high you went, you would still see the same thing. Since this is not the case, the Earth is flat.


These experiments are all confirmed by creation scientists as being 100% accurate. If you're skeptical of the flat Earth, why don't you do these experiments so you can see truth with your own eyes.

Yours in Christ,

Rev. Jim Osborne

You sir should go visit a place called: School. There you can learn new things and get a better understanding of basic physics.

[Meek and Humble]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

You sir should go visit a place called: School. There you can learn new things and get a better understanding of basic physics.

Your anti-Christian hate-speech will not be tolerated here.

[Dr. Isaiah Jones]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

You sir should go visit a place called: School. There you can learn new things and get a better understanding of basic physics.

Landover Baptist University and many other Christian educational institutes teach advanced physics according to the Scriptures. These are the only places where one can obtain proper education in the fields of True Science™.

Secular education, on the other hand, will only fill your head with lies and anti-Christian propaganda. That is why most of us home-school our children before sending them off to good True Christian™ colleges.

1 Timothy 6:20-21 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called: Which some professing have erred concerning the faith. Grace be with thee. Amen.

[Follows_My_Shepherd]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

You sir should go visit a place called: School. There you can learn new things and get a better understanding of basic physics.

The only thing school school is good for is becoming a homosexual liberal.

[jimmyhamsterpoo]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

We know the Earth is flat because the Bible tells us so. But for those of you skeptical, close-minded types that flat out refuse to accept the overwhelming Biblical evidence, I have designed some experiments you can do at home that will show you, before your very eyes, that the world is indeed flat, and not spherical as some crazy scientists proclaim. It's amazing how many people blindly believe in a spherical Earth, without ever having seen it for themselves! I intend to change that.


1) Jump!
Now, scientists claim that Earth is spherical and rotating at a speed of between 700-1000 miles per hour, depending on your latitude. This is a very high rate of speed. You can disprove this nonsense by simply jumping up as high as you can. Really, it's that simple. What happens when you jump? You come straight down to where you were. But, if the Earth were indeed spinning at such a fast speed, wouldn't you land hundreds of feet away?

If you were to stand in the flat bed of a truck going 75 mph, and jump straight up, what would happen? You wouldn't fall straight down. You would fall out of the truck. That's because trucks move, the Earth doesn't. This experiment proves the Earth is fixed in space and doesn't move.


2) Blow!
Since if the Earth is supposedly a sphere, it naturally comes to assume what would happen to people below the equator, like in Australia? Since they are underneath the sphere, wouldn't they fall off? This is where scientists come up with mumbo-jumbo like "gravity" and "centrifugal force" to explain away their theories. So, the scientists want you to think that because the earth is so much more massive than people or things, that people will naturally "stick" to the bottom of the earth because of gravity.

This can be disproved very simply. Get a balloon and inflate it as big as possible. It will be a spherical shape. Now, take a piece of paper and try to rip, tear, or cut the tiniest speck of paper possible. This paper represents a human being, much smaller in mass to the balloon, which represents the Earth. Now try and place the small piece of paper to the underside of the balloon. What happens? It falls off!

That's right. Even though the balloon is so much bigger in mass, it cannot hold the tiny paper. So if the Earth was a sphere, no one could live below the equator because they would fall off.


3) Get High!
Ok, this one you really can't do at home, but you can do it out in the world. Stand on the ground and look around you. What's the farthest you can see? Maybe it's a building, tree, or mountain. Now, find some place very close to it where you can get a much higher vantage point. (This also works if you're on a jet and about to take off.) Notice how in the higher place you can see much farther? You can see more of the world the higher you get. This shows the world is flat because the higher you go, the easier it is to see over obstacles. At the same time, it shows the world cannot be spherical. Because if the world was curved, the far distance would forever remain out of view because of the Earth's curvature. It would eternally be over the horizon.

If the Earth was a sphere, it would not matter how high you went, you would still see the same thing. Since this is not the case, the Earth is flat.


These experiments are all confirmed by creation scientists as being 100% accurate. If you're skeptical of the flat Earth, why don't you do these experiments so you can see truth with your own eyes.

Yours in Christ,

Rev. Jim Osborne

NUMBER ONE

If you were to jump up on a truck you would come straight back down to the truck, if you jumped from the truck of course. Next time you are in your car and have a coin or ball or something toss it in the air it will come straight back down to you. Now you are thinking Aha! This means a flat earth, well no it's called a frame of reference. But I guess I can't prove that to you, just as you can't prove with any certainty that the Earth is flat but let us think what we want.

NUMBER TWO

Ok for this one you will need to visualise something. Imagine holding a tarp stretched, or a table cloth or whatever, now you place a ball in the middle, a dip will form in this trough. If you place something else anywhere else on the cloth it will sink towards the ball, providing it is less massive. Now you need to imagine that the ball is not only sitting in a cloth in one direction, but also from the bottom, imagine the cloth being suspended from the planets core, so you have objects that will sink in to the dip. But not only from those two directions but also from every direction - this is hard to imagine in 3 dimensional terms but it exists in 4 dimensional spacetime in which it makes more sense, but im starting to use big words here and it may scare you all.

Also, if gravity is a myth, why, on a hypothetical flat earth, do things drop down? Surely they would just stay how they are until acted upon - saying God did it is not a valid answer.

I cannot prove any of what I said above over the internet but you go watch a ship disappear over the horizon. Does it;

a] all disappear at once
b]slowly disappear starting at the bottom
c] fall of the edge of the world


NUMBER 3

Congratulations your conclusion is a good one, only problem is that your premise is fundamentally flawed and wrong. You can see further the higher up you are and for this I have done a wee diagram for you all.



As you can see the higher up the stupidly tall tower you go, the further you can see, even over the purple obstacle. I drew this on a circle, which admittedly looks slightly flat on the top.



You really need to open your minds to yahwehs infinite wisdom and accept and revel in that which he as created for us - a whole universe full of wonderful stars, planets and life, all of which he loves equally, even those green men on mars ladies and mentlegen. So please stop giving us TRUE CHRISTIANS a bad name and stop being so silly.

peace be with you all

[Meek and Humble]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

blah blah blah, blasphemous lies

All of your heretical and ridiculous pseudo-science has been debunked dozens of times in this thread. I am not going to bother to answer you if you were too lazy and/or retarded to read the thread you were replying to.

Well, with evidence like this, how could we ever doubt you.

You really need to open your minds to yahwehs infinite wisdom and accept and revel in that which he as created for us - a whole universe full of wonderful stars, planets and life, all of which he loves equally, even those green men on mars ladies and mentlegen. So please stop giving us TRUE CHRISTIANS a bad name and stop being so silly.

You are the one who hates God and spits on His Holy Words. You don't serve Yahweh, you worship yourself and your own mind, and make yourself God. You are a slave to the world and to Satan.

I pray that you repent before God tosses you into the Lake of Fire to be tortured forever.

[jimmyhamsterpoo]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

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All of your heretical and ridiculous pseudo-science has been debunked dozens of times in this thread. I am not going to bother to answer you if you were too lazy and/or retarded to read the thread you were replying to.
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Well, with evidence like this, how could we ever doubt you.



You are the one who hates God and spits on His Holy Words. You don't serve Yahweh, you worship yourself and your own mind, and make yourself God. You are a slave to the world and to Satan.

I pray that you repent before God tosses you into the Lake of Fire to be tortured forever.

I was just trying brother you must reaslise that God gave us his 10 commandments, you should live by them the rest is our interpretation. I do worship myself, I worship my mind I worship everything there good about this world, you, this forum everything because God is everywhere. Look for beauty in every single thing because it was created by him for us. Even in the bad there is good - only misguided.

I thank you for your prayers but I love the Lord, I follow his commandments, as you do too, he loves us all. You must see that science is just a critical way of looking at the beauty of his creation. To the ignorant scientists there is no one answer but you see there are those on the true path that see that science is just looking deeper into this mystery and beauty but ultimately he did it all and guides it all and guides us all.

peace be with you

[Meek and Humble]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

I was just trying brother you must reaslise that God gave us his 10 commandments, you should live by them the rest is our interpretation.

WRONG!

1 Peter 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.

I do worship myself, I worship my mind I worship everything there good about this world, you, this forum everything because God is everywhere.

Oh I see. You're some sort of pantheist. That is heresy and will not bring you salvation.

http://www.gotquestions.org/pantheism.html

Does the Bible teach pantheism? No, it does not. What many people confuse as pantheism is the doctrine of God's omnipresence. Psalm 139:7-8 declares, “Where can I go from your Spirit? Where can I flee from your presence? If I go up to the heavens, you are there; if I make my bed in the depths, you are there.” God's omnipresence means He is present everywhere. There is no place in the universe where God is not present. This is not the same thing as pantheism. God is everywhere, but He is not everything. Yes, God is “present” inside a tree and inside a person, but that does not make that tree or person God. Pantheism is not at all a biblical belief.

I follow his commandments

No, you don't, for the Bible says very clearly:

Revelation 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and [from] the things which are written in this book.

You take out the parts of the Bible you don't like, the parts that say the earth is flat. You are not allowed to ignore any part of the Bible.

peace be with you

Ezekiel 13:10 "'Because they lead my people astray, saying, "Peace," when there is no peace, and because, when a flimsy wall is built, they cover it with whitewash,

[jimmyhamsterpoo]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

WRONG!

1 Peter 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.



Oh I see. You're some sort of pantheist. That is heresy and will not bring you salvation.

http://www.gotquestions.org/pantheism.html

Does the Bible teach pantheism? No, it does not. What many people confuse as pantheism is the doctrine of God's omnipresence. Psalm 139:7-8 declares, “Where can I go from your Spirit? Where can I flee from your presence? If I go up to the heavens, you are there; if I make my bed in the depths, you are there.” God's omnipresence means He is present everywhere. There is no place in the universe where God is not present. This is not the same thing as pantheism. God is everywhere, but He is not everything. Yes, God is “present” inside a tree and inside a person, but that does not make that tree or person God. Pantheism is not at all a biblical belief.



No, you don't, for the Bible says very clearly:

Revelation 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and [from] the things which are written in this book.

You take out the parts of the Bible you don't like, the parts that say the earth is flat. You are not allowed to ignore any part of the Bible.



Ezekiel 13:10 "'Because they lead my people astray, saying, "Peace," when there is no peace, and because, when a flimsy wall is built, they cover it with whitewash,

We will obviously never agree, maybe I am wrong, maybe you are wrong - we will not know until we leave this world. But I am sure both our intentions are pure.

best of luck my friend