[Phebe Carlyle]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

sir i am sorry to say... that is not logic. their is no factual proof that your book is the truth. whereas their are mounds of reasearch and SCIENCE that can be used to proove the earthis spherical.

Secular science is just satanic yappity yap with theories and nothing more.

If you can cite ANY secular science paper that GUARANTEES to actually PROVE anything you believe. I want PROOF, not theory or mere hypotheses.

Put up or shut up.

YIC,

Mrs.P.Wintersnow.

[Dirk]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

sir i am sorry to say... that is not logic. their is no factual proof that your book is the truth. whereas their are mounds of reasearch and SCIENCE that can be used to proove the earthis spherical.

Why not? Have you tried reading the KJV1611? It contains all the answers you need in your life.

[the true]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

Now that we have access to space, the easiest way to prove the Earth is spherical is to leave it and view it from a distance. Astronauts and space probes have done just that. Every picture of Earth ever taken shows only a circular shape, and the only geometric solid which looks like a circle from any direction is a sphere.

One of the oldest proofs of the Earth's shape, however, can be seen from the ground and occurs during every lunar eclipse. The geometry of a lunar eclipse has been known since ancient Greece. When a full Moon occurs in the plane of Earth's orbit, the Moon slowly moves through Earth's shadow. Every time that shadow is seen, its edge is round. Once again, the only solid that always projects a round shadow is a sphere.

Answered by: Paul Walorski, B.A., Part-time Physics/Astronomy Instructor


This is a question that has been asked for many years, and there are some very intuitive, and some not-so-intuitive answers.

To start with... there's a horizon, meaning that the surface that one is observing from is not an infinite plane. On the clearest of days, the only restriction to one's range of sight is the horizon. There can be two explanations for this - one, that the Earth at some point just stops, as if you were looking off the edge of a table. The other is that the Earth is round. Hundreds of years ago, before the invention of the compass or sextant, precise navigation for ships was difficult, even with the stars. Ships that ventured past sight of land were often lost, and thus it was generally believed that the world simply *stopped* at the end of the horizon. With the invention of the compass, and improved map-making, people began to dare more, and with the return of Columbus from his trans-Atlantic voyage, the concept of the Earth as flat was shattered.

Further proof of the Earth being round came after the voyage of Columbus. When Newton discovered and measured the force of gravity, that number could then be tested anywhere the theory was known. Since the force of gravity is roughly the same everywhere on the globe, it could be surmised that the Earth must be spherical. If the Earth were not round, whole hemispheres would have different atmospheric pressure and significantly different sea levels. Also, pictures taken of the Earth in the last 50 years have proved absolutely conclusively that the Earth is round. These are just the arguments that don't require much physics knowledge to explain, there are others that are more technical, but I think that the simplest arguments are the best.

Answered by: Frank DiBonaventuro, B.S., Physics grad, The Citadel, Air Force officer


There are a multitude of methods in which any one can prove that the earth is a sphere. These are the most common.

You can launch a rocket to a high altitude and take pictures of the earth (which various government agencies and private groups have already done thousands of times in the past), but that isn't the most practical way. Pictures and videos taken by orbiting satellites and space stations are certainly the most definitive proof that the earth is a sphere.

But if you're not convinced, read on...

You can also observe, with binoculars, ships slowly 'sinking' below the horizon as it sails farther and farther out to the ocean, then watch them come back. They certainly didn't fall off the edge of the earth! You can also sail or fly around the world.

The Greeks discovered that the earth is round by observing lunar eclipses (i.e. when the earth blocks the sun from the moon, casting its round shadow on the moon's surface).

Another method is simultaneously measuring the length of the shadows cast by identical poles perpendicular to a flat surface that is tangential to the earth's radius at various, distant locations. If indeed the earth is round, then the shadows should all vary in length from one distant location to another, which means that the angle at which the parallel rays of sunlight struck each pole varied from one location to another. (recall the alternate-angles theorem from Geometry class) If the earth is flat, then the lengths of all the shadows should be identical when measured simultaneously, since all rays of sunlight that strike the earth are parallel. However, they are not identical, but in fact, varies in such a way that the angles indicate a spherical surface. (This was one of the earliest methods to determine the radius of the earth)

Also, keep in mind the 24 hour time zones. When it is noon in Hawaii, it is approximately midnight in the Middle East and vice versa. How can it be noon and midnight simultaneously? It is certainly impossible with a flat earth and a sun millions of times more massive.

If I were a billionaire and physically fit, then proving to you the earth is round would be no problem. I can just take you with me on the space shuttle and we'll watch with our own eyes the earth from the orbiting International Space Station.

I have heard from astronauts that there is no experience comparable as watching the earth from above. \

here ya go champ. enjoy having your ridiculous beliefs crushed by the strong arm of scientific fact.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

[...]Every time that shadow is seen, its edge is round. Once again, the only solid that always projects a round shadow is a sphere.

Answered by: Paul Walorski, B.A., Part-time Physics/Astronomy Instructor


[...]

I got as far as there and realized that there was no point reading any further.

A circular disk also creates a round shadow.

Please cut and paste from Biblical sources, you will find them perfect and without error.

PS, all your other points have been answered in earlier posts.

[Phebe Carlyle]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

Now that we have access to space, the easiest way to prove the Earth is spherical is to leave it and view it from a distance. Astronauts and space probes have done just that. Every picture of Earth ever taken shows only a circular shape, and the only geometric solid which looks like a circle from any direction is a sphere.

One of the oldest proofs of the Earth's shape, however, can be seen from the ground and occurs during every lunar eclipse. The geometry of a lunar eclipse has been known since ancient Greece. When a full Moon occurs in the plane of Earth's orbit, the Moon slowly moves through Earth's shadow. Every time that shadow is seen, its edge is round. Once again, the only solid that always projects a round shadow is a sphere.

Answered by: Paul Walorski, B.A., Part-time Physics/Astronomy Instructor


This is a question that has been asked for many years, and there are some very intuitive, and some not-so-intuitive answers.

To start with... there's a horizon, meaning that the surface that one is observing from is not an infinite plane. On the clearest of days, the only restriction to one's range of sight is the horizon. There can be two explanations for this - one, that the Earth at some point just stops, as if you were looking off the edge of a table. The other is that the Earth is round. Hundreds of years ago, before the invention of the compass or sextant, precise navigation for ships was difficult, even with the stars. Ships that ventured past sight of land were often lost, and thus it was generally believed that the world simply *stopped* at the end of the horizon. With the invention of the compass, and improved map-making, people began to dare more, and with the return of Columbus from his trans-Atlantic voyage, the concept of the Earth as flat was shattered.

Further proof of the Earth being round came after the voyage of Columbus. When Newton discovered and measured the force of gravity, that number could then be tested anywhere the theory was known. Since the force of gravity is roughly the same everywhere on the globe, it could be surmised that the Earth must be spherical. If the Earth were not round, whole hemispheres would have different atmospheric pressure and significantly different sea levels. Also, pictures taken of the Earth in the last 50 years have proved absolutely conclusively that the Earth is round. These are just the arguments that don't require much physics knowledge to explain, there are others that are more technical, but I think that the simplest arguments are the best.

Answered by: Frank DiBonaventuro, B.S., Physics grad, The Citadel, Air Force officer


There are a multitude of methods in which any one can prove that the earth is a sphere. These are the most common.

You can launch a rocket to a high altitude and take pictures of the earth (which various government agencies and private groups have already done thousands of times in the past), but that isn't the most practical way. Pictures and videos taken by orbiting satellites and space stations are certainly the most definitive proof that the earth is a sphere.

But if you're not convinced, read on...

You can also observe, with binoculars, ships slowly 'sinking' below the horizon as it sails farther and farther out to the ocean, then watch them come back. They certainly didn't fall off the edge of the earth! You can also sail or fly around the world.

The Greeks discovered that the earth is round by observing lunar eclipses (i.e. when the earth blocks the sun from the moon, casting its round shadow on the moon's surface).

Another method is simultaneously measuring the length of the shadows cast by identical poles perpendicular to a flat surface that is tangential to the earth's radius at various, distant locations. If indeed the earth is round, then the shadows should all vary in length from one distant location to another, which means that the angle at which the parallel rays of sunlight struck each pole varied from one location to another. (recall the alternate-angles theorem from Geometry class) If the earth is flat, then the lengths of all the shadows should be identical when measured simultaneously, since all rays of sunlight that strike the earth are parallel. However, they are not identical, but in fact, varies in such a way that the angles indicate a spherical surface. (This was one of the earliest methods to determine the radius of the earth)

Also, keep in mind the 24 hour time zones. When it is noon in Hawaii, it is approximately midnight in the Middle East and vice versa. How can it be noon and midnight simultaneously? It is certainly impossible with a flat earth and a sun millions of times more massive.

If I were a billionaire and physically fit, then proving to you the earth is round would be no problem. I can just take you with me on the space shuttle and we'll watch with our own eyes the earth from the orbiting International Space Station.

I have heard from astronauts that there is no experience comparable as watching the earth from above. \

here ya go champ. enjoy having your ridiculous beliefs crushed by the strong arm of scientific fact.

So, you can't cite scripture to support your claims, but rather just have given secular science "theories".


Just as I thought. Another illogical naysayer! Rev Jim's and also Mistress Cookie's and also Brother Winner's experiments, demomstrations and observations have ALSO been peer-reviewed by Creation Scientific FACT!

What else have you got?

We have not only the KJV1611 but also these brilliant scientific minds delving for us! You have a man called BUZZ on your side.

Who would I believe? JESUS (GOD ON EARTH)Our Lord and Savior or a man named after the sound a bee(God's mere creation no less) makes.

YIC,

Mrs.P.Wintersnow.

[the true]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

sorry mam those people you refer to are creationists and more accuratly ridiculous. None of what i posted are theories. they are proven fact. its time to enter the 21st century lady. leave behind the old ways and come join the good guys... we have cookies. that may attract your attention after looking at your picture

[Meek and Humble]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

sorry mam those people you refer to are creationists and more accuratly ridiculous. None of what i posted are theories. they are proven fact. its time to enter the 21st century lady. leave behind the old ways and come join the good guys... we have cookies. that may attract your attention after looking at your picture

If they are proven facts then please, prove them.

[the true]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

If they are proven facts then please, prove them.

i just did by posting them. prove that everything your bible says is real while your at it. NOT using scripture because that is from the bible which defeats the point of prooving yourself.

[Meek and Humble]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

i just did by posting them. prove that everything your bible says is real while your at it. NOT using scripture because that is from the bible which defeats the point of prooving yourself.

Copying what some scientists say does not prove anything.

http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=30407&highlight=proofs

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

sorry mam those people you refer to are creationists and more accuratly ridiculous. None of what i posted are theories. they are proven fact. its time to enter the 21st century lady. leave behind the old ways and come join the good guys... we have cookies. that may attract your attention after looking at your picture

See this and weep:

[Phebe Carlyle]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

sorry mam those people you refer to are creationists and more accuratly ridiculous. None of what i posted are theories. they are proven fact. its time to enter the 21st century lady. leave behind the old ways and come join the good guys... we have cookies. that may attract your attention after looking at your picture

I lived in the secular world, dealing with secular science "facts" for many years prior to becoming a True Christian™ .

Now, if you actually had even an iota of understanding as to how the whole secular sciency thing works, you would realize that NONE of their FACTS are posited or given to review as a PROVEN, but actually as THEORETICAL "facts", given presumed correct "world data"(from their false outlook mind you) at this time.That is why there are no absolutes in secular science as they have NO ACTUAL PROOF for anything they conjure up in their witches cauldrons.

Have you ever stopped to consider that Jesus Christ was able to HEAL the blind, those with the palsy, the lame(except you apparently) and leprosy all those thousands of years ago, but the supposed secular science "proofers" in your eyes, cannot even do it now?

I can cite scripture to back up these things. Just ask and you shall receive. You however can only back up your waffle with "theoretical fact" which his nothing to battle God's inerrant Word of Truth.

As to your cookie reference. The only cookies I am I am interested in are the wise, intelligent and good wholesome fun loving Mistress Cookie, and those I make each and every month for the Church charity bake sale.

So I wonder, are you claiming I need to fatten up due to you liking chunky darwinista monkey's (if that is the case.. find yourself an atheist nigress) or are you wanting someone looking more like a boy.. making you a pedophile homer.

All we ask is you cite proof over stupid theory. Obviously too hard for you.

YIC,

Mrs.P.Wintersnow.

[scherzo]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

Not only are you people stupid to the point of retarded, you're all a bunch of ignorant racists. What would GOD and Jesus think knowing you're not following the golden rule "Treat others how you would like to be treated"?

A friend of mine said, "due unto others as they do to you"

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

i just did by posting them. prove that everything your bible says is real while your at it. NOT using scripture because that is from the bible which defeats the point of prooving yourself.

Okay, then you have to prove the Law of Gravity without using gravity. And any studies using gravity are invalid.

[Warner S. Davidson]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

Originally Posted by PlasmaPuke
Not only are you people stupid to the point of retarded, you're all a bunch of ignorant racists. What would GOD and Jesus think knowing you're not following the golden rule "Treat others how you would like to be treated"?

Interesting:
Then based on the way you are treating us here and the un warranted taunts and viscious insults that you have hurled at good True Christian™ people then you may expect to be treated in the same vein

Some sound advice for you..............I presume that you have the intellect to understand the synergies .....................

Ezekiel 36:15
“Nor will I let you hear the taunts of the nations anymore, nor bear the reproach of the peoples anymore, nor shall you cause your nation to stumble anymore,” says the Lord GOD.’”

[Lisa H]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

i just did by posting them. prove that everything your bible says is real while your at it. NOT using scripture because that is from the bible which defeats the point of prooving yourself.

So atheist scientists are allowed use their theory papers to prove they are correct. Yet we are not allowed to use the Bible to say we are correct. That is very hypocritical of you.