[Phebe Carlyle]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

Well, you haven't proven any thing incorrect at all.

Second, I'm not racist in the slightest. And judging by another thread on here you people, apparently, are. (Sounded like one of the laugh threads though, though it was written by the same guy who wrote this thread saying the earth was flat. lolwut?))

Not to mention that just a few posts earlier I found out that "God hates me because I'm Irish"

Third: God may have given you the ability to choose, free will. But when you know right and wrong, and you are TOLD that there is only ONE right choice it isn't really a CHOICE any longer. Revisit Adam and Eve? Upon eating the apple they were given the KNOWLEGE OF RIGHT AND WRONG. There is a definitive difference there, maybe YOU should "revisit" Adam and Eve.

But to prove the point that the Earth is round.

When you look at the Horizon it seems to curve.

1.Stand on an ocean or sea shore and watch a boat sail away. (It "Dips" below the horizon because the earth is curved.)

2. Watch a plane fly across the sky.

3. Take any trans-continental flight (In which more than the 100,000,000+ followers who believe this "Earth is flat" stuff have done) In which the flight path curves around the "Known edges" of the Earth.

4. Check any meteorological readings that SHOW storm systems moving across the globe, wind currents, or tidal shifts.

5. Check off the calender as it shifts from summer through winter and back to summer once more.


The world was proven to be round, YEARS ago.

I now want YOU to DISPROVE this, without using the Bible to support its own writings (As you've mistakenly interpreted them).

Tell me how people fly from Australia to Hawaii without passing Africa or any other continent. Tell me.

How does passing over another continent prove the earth is a sphere? BTW, I HAVE flown from Sydney to LA and also Brisbane to LA and at no time did I have to pass Africa or another continent to get to LA. We did however fly over Hawaii!

You are a nutjob!!

YIC

Mrs Phebe Dewitt.

[Lisa H]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

Rambling removed

How about staying on topic of this thread and stop writing windbag postings.

[Doc_Sregor]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

No, if you have two choices and only one of them is "Right" and you are "Told" which one is right, there is actually NO choice. Just because you can "Choose" to damn yourself doesn't make it a viable option, there is no choice to be made. When people don't believe what you do, when people feel you are wrong (Oh.... like the world being a sphere and not flat) It isn't because they "Choose" to be wrong and be damned to hell. If it was as simple as a choice NO one would be sentenced to Hell.

If that's the case, as you've so ignorantly pointed out using my own reasoning to try and heighten the points of your own and only succeeding in strengthening mine, there would be no actual free will.

If you are given optioni A, and option B, and you are TOLD that Option A is right... If you "Know" that option A is right, you will go with option A. Such as a hungry Dog who wants to eat, will eat instead of starve. Because that's the only logical thing to do, there is no choice inherent in the matter. Just because you CAN damn yourself, doesn't make it a choice. Free will is the will to find your own purpose in life, to apply it to what you do, and do what you feel is right.

To think that you ACTUALLY believe that you can understand the will of a being so powerful and omnicient that created us and the cosmos and every intricate detail around us as a painter or sculptor creates a work of art.... And feel that (Though you say it is the WORD OF GOD, WRITTEN BY GOD) your interpretation of a man/woman's feelings given their slight, ambiguous/questionable interactions with the being and their accounts and attempts to pass on the knowledge given.....


Pretentious, and WRONG. There is no other word for what you believe or what you think than WRONG.


Thing is in what I believe, you can be wrong. You can't help being wrong. The unforgivable trespass is that you honestly believe that you understand and KNOW a creature like God's will, and persecute and condemn others because they don't feel what you do. That you honestly think that you are right and the only way to faithfully exist is as you do.

You are an insult to the Almighty.

[Lisa H]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

No, if you have two choices and only one of them is "Right" and you are "Told" which one is right, there is actually NO choice. Just because you can "Choose" to damn yourself doesn't make it a viable option, there is no choice to be made. When people don't believe what you do, when people feel you are wrong (Oh.... like the world being a sphere and not flat) It isn't because they "Choose" to be wrong and be damned to hell. If it was as simple as a choice NO one would be sentenced to Hell.

More Rambling

Have you ever done a multiple choice question. There is only one correct answer.

Here is a sample;

How do you get to Heaven
1. Believe in God
2. Believe in Satan

There is only one correct answer, you have the free will to choose which one.

Now stop your ramblings and stay on topic of this thread.

[Witch of Endor]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

Well there Doc_Smegma, Lisa has made an excellent point about this getting rather off-topic, so allow me to just make a few quick comments.

First of all, your ideas of free-will are ludicrous. I am sure Sarte is rolling in his grave right now.

Your argument that my refutation of your claims of circular reasoning because of my use of the qualifier "self" is ludicrous. If it bothers you that much, just re-read it and pretend whenever I said self-consistent I actually said consistent.

Your idea that the Bible not being mentioned in any other religious text negates its historical value is ludicrous. Secular science has proved once and again that archeological evidence exists for the Bible at least back to the time of King David.

And this brings me back to the point of the Earth being flat. If you could only accept that the Bible is a valid historical document, you would see that this allows us to use it to make justifications (i.e. a flat earth) without it being circular reasoning.

Blessed be, my rabid, contentious friend

Kassandra, Witch of Endor

[Phebe Carlyle]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

Well there Doc_Smegma, Lisa has made an excellent point about this getting rather off-topic, so allow me to just make a few quick comments.

First of all, your ideas of free-will are ludicrous. I am sure Sarte is rolling in his grave right now.

Your argument that my refutation of your claims of circular reasoning because of my use of the qualifier "self" is ludicrous. If it bothers you that much, just re-read it and pretend whenever I said self-consistent I actually said consistent.

Your idea that the Bible not being mentioned in any other religious text negates its historical value is ludicrous. Secular science has proved once and again that archeological evidence exists for the Bible at least back to the time of King David.

And this brings me back to the point of the Earth being flat. If you could only accept that the Bible is a valid historical document, you would see that this allows us to use it to make justifications (i.e. a flat earth) without it being circular reasoning.

Blessed be, my rabid, contentious friend

Kassandra, Witch of Endor

Even though you are a witch, there are valid points you made. Jesus WAS mentioned in other religious beliefs. The Jesus Sutra's were used by buddhists and taoists and those into confucanism, so they recognize Jesus FROM THE BIBLE. Same with Islam and even the joos.

This Doc. fellow is the one tool short of the toolbox.

YIC

Mrs Phebe Dewitt.

[Lisa H]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

... This Doc. fellow is the one tool short of the toolbox.

YIC

Mrs Phebe Dewitt.

Only one tool. I think he is missing the whole toolbox.

[Witch of Endor]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

Thank you Mrs. Dewitt, I'm surprised I actually ended up agreeing with you guys. I hope having a witch agree with you doesn't bother you too much.

But I mean, really, the atheists accuse you guys of having blind faith? I assume they haven't looked in any mirrors recently.

Blessed be, my logical thinking friends

Kassandra, Witch of Endor

[Acey Decey]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

GRAVITY GRAVITY GRAVITY GRAVITY!!!!!! Gravity is an electrical force (stick your finger in the power socket on your wall if you don't believe that exists either) and when you place trillions of electrons together they create a magnetic force so great that it would hold things to the object. Being that it is dense enough at the core to produce this much magnetism, that is why the Earth has gravity. Now you might say Magnetism applies only to metal, but no it does not. Everything is made of electricity. Your body is made of atoms, which in turn are made of electrons, protons and neutrons. All of them are electrically based, meaning everything is electricity. So therefore Gravity is plausible. Science has now tackled idiocy.

It is hard enough trying to get through to these people by arguing a point using science. It makes it a darn sight harder when people come in and use flawed scientific argument because they picked up a little at school. If you are infact telling the world that gravity is an electrical force then you'd better get onto MIT. These guys have been trying to explain gravity for a hundred years and still can't.

Please make sure you know exactly what you are talking about before you post in here and make scientifically flawed banter.

ACEY DECEY

[Terry Wrist]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

How do you know Australia is stretched out? Prove to me that this is not it's actual shape. And you really expect to be able to see a road sign from a full earth view?

As for your "sun". How can it dip beyond the horizon / edge of the earth, and be day on the other side?

It goes around the earth? Like a flashlight? Sheesh you don't catch on very quickly do you.


1. prove to me it isn't
2. even if it is, see my flashlight comment above.[/QUOTE]

there are two situations in which we, on earth, experience night.
1) the flashlight goes to the other side of the disk. This means it disappears behind the horizon. Which it does.
2) earth is beyond the boundries of a "flashlight sun". This means it'll turn night when the sun is mid air. This is not the case.

So even if there's a flashlight sun, it'd be aimed at us all the time.
No matter how much you bend the truth, these are facts.

When a flat surface is lit, it's equally lit on that side. Since you propose earth is flat, this would mean it's either day or night in the entire world. Which it isn't. I live in western Europe and, at this very time, the sunrise was 4 hours ago. The sun will go down in about 7 hours. How about there, where you live? I'll eat my hand if that's the same.

No, I did not to see road signs from a world view. I meant that road signs (which usually show the distance from one point to another) can say a lot about the size and thus shape of Australia. Not that I can actually go there physically and measure, but people have. That's how maps are made. Including the maps you can buy everywhere.

I did not mean to offend your paint skills, as suggested.

[Phebe Carlyle]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

Thank you Mrs. Dewitt, I'm surprised I actually ended up agreeing with you guys. I hope having a witch agree with you doesn't bother you too much.

I hope to see this as your first step to seeing The Truth that is Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior. God obviously lead you here for good reason and perhaps this is WHY.

But I mean, really, the atheists accuse you guys of having blind faith? I assume they haven't looked in any mirrors recently.

I know. I laugh about it too! They 'think' secular science has all the answers, when in fact it just has excuses and denial.They are brainwashed to believe such nonsense by their secular schooling. Then they (knowing they are losing arguments) go off topic and start with the name calling and other such idiocy.

Blessed be, my logical thinking friends

Kassandra, Witch of Endor

I just hope that blessed be nonsense wasn't some lezbean spell.

YIC

Mrs Phebe Dewitt.

[Lisa H]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

It goes around the earth? Like a flashlight? Sheesh you don't catch on very quickly do you.


1. prove to me it isn't
2. even if it is, see my flashlight comment above.

there are two situations in which we, on earth, experience night.
1) the flashlight goes to the other side of the disk. This means it disappears behind the horizon. Which it does.
2) earth is beyond the boundries of a "flashlight sun". This means it'll turn night when the sun is mid air. This is not the case.

So even if there's a flashlight sun, it'd be aimed at us all the time.
No matter how much you bend the truth, these are facts.

When a flat surface is lit, it's equally lit on that side. Since you propose earth is flat, this would mean it's either day or night in the entire world. Which it isn't. I live in western Europe and, at this very time, the sunrise was 4 hours ago. The sun will go down in about 7 hours. How about there, where you live? I'll eat my hand if that's the same.

No, I did not to see road signs from a world view. I meant that road signs (which usually show the distance from one point to another) can say a lot about the size and thus shape of Australia. Not that I can actually go there physically and measure, but people have. That's how maps are made. Including the maps you can buy everywhere.

I did not mean to offend your paint skills, as suggested.

How many times do we have say this. Only spherical earthers believe timezones cannot exist on a flat earth.

If you have read previous postings, maps actually prove the earth is flat.

[Acey Decey]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

Tell me how people fly from Australia to Hawaii without passing Africa or any other continent. Tell me.

With all of the posts that you put on this thread, with all of the reasonable statements, answers you made and questions you posed, you just killed all credibility with one statement, the one above. You made yourself look absolutely ridiculous.

Acey Decey

[Terry Wrist]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

Then how do timezones excist on a flat earth?
How is that scientifically possible?

How can the sun set in one part and rise in another part of the earth if it were flat, and the sun sets and rises on the horizon.

[Phebe Carlyle]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

Then how do timezones excist on a flat earth?
How is that scientifically possible?

How can the sun set in one part and rise in another part of the earth if it were flat, and the sun sets and rises on the horizon.

The sun is a spotlight which shines light on a concentrated area, so not everywhere on Earth will be lit at once. Times zones exist so that everyone's clock will be at 12:00 around the time the sun is approximately directly overhead.

YIC

Mrs Phebe Dewitt