[Lost Sheep McUinnean]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

It has been proven - one simple way is just flying round the planet.

As well if the earth was flat then how is it that day and night come about?

Finally, prove to me that 'god' is real with out quoting a 2 thousand year old book that has played Chinese whispers.

I think we all know Jesus was NOT from that end of Asia!

[The unHoly one]

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I think we all know Jesus was NOT from that end of Asia!

Are you that stupid you can not even identify the use of a metaphor to explain the way the bible has been passed down!

[Bible Student]

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I think we all know Jesus was NOT from that end of Asia!

What will these atheists come up with next? First they claim Baby Jesus was a joo and now this new person claims He is a chink slant.

[Lost Sheep McUinnean]

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Are you that stupid you can not even identify the use of a metaphor to explain the way the bible has been passed down!

I hardly think bringing up the idea of rocks falling from space can be taken seriously despite what you guys theorize on the extinction of dinosaurs and other antediluvian creatures!

Are YOU really that stupid!?

[KardinalSyn]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

I really wish that scientists were as discriminating as the people they help. I'm resting assured that none of you are pilots. I think if you put such a pox on science and scientists and act like they're a bunch of blaspheming liars sent by the devil, you should be living the Amish lifestyle. Otherwise, you're nothing but a picket sign-carrying hypocrite.

If the earth is flat, why don't ships sail off the end of it? Where's the end?

Also, bear in mind that a lot of internet traffic is handled by orbiting satellites. Keyword: ORBITING.

I really think the believers of the "Earth is Flat" lie should run the world for one day so they can just see how ignorant they are. Planes would crash, buildings would burn, people would die in hospitals.

I wish that hospitals could refuse morons like you. If ignorance is bliss, you must be having orgasms every second of the day (sinner).

[Bobby-Joe]

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I really wish that scientists were as discriminating as the people they help. I'm resting assured that none of you are pilots. I think if you put such a pox on science and scientists and act like they're a bunch of blaspheming liars sent by the devil, you should be living the Amish lifestyle. Otherwise, you're nothing but a picket sign-carrying hypocrite.

We never said "science is evil", we said secular science is evil. We don't have time for made up nonsense about magical monkies and talking fish. Secularists belive in all kinds of nonsense because it is in The Origins of the Species. Well just because its in some old book mamkes it true. We TRUE Christians(tm) want proof.

Were is the Biblical evidence for the secular position?

If the earth is flat, why don't ships sail off the end of it? Where's the end?

Also, bear in mind that a lot of internet traffic is handled by orbiting satellites. Keyword: ORBITING.

So you claim. I am just not comfortable with the evidence.

I really think the believers of the "Earth is Flat" lie should run the world for one day so they can just see how ignorant they are. Planes would crash, buildings would burn, people would die in hospitals.

I wish that hospitals could refuse mormons like you. If ignorance is bliss, you must be having orgasms every second of the day (sinner).

We're not members of the Church of Later Day Saint.

[Milican]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

I tried out every of the experiments proposed in the original post about a month ago, and since then I stand corrected - the Earth is flat.

[Mollotch]

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Now that we have access to space, the easiest way to prove the Earth is spherical is to leave it and view it from a distance. Astronauts and space probes have done just that. Every picture of Earth ever taken shows only a circular shape, and the only geometric solid which looks like a circle from any direction is a sphere.

One of the oldest proofs of the Earth's shape, however, can be seen from the ground and occurs during every lunar eclipse. The geometry of a lunar eclipse has been known since ancient Greece. When a full Moon occurs in the plane of Earth's orbit, the Moon slowly moves through Earth's shadow. Every time that shadow is seen, its edge is round. Once again, the only solid that always projects a round shadow is a sphere.

This is a question that has been asked for many years, and there are some very intuitive, and some not-so-intuitive answers.

To start with... there's a horizon, meaning that the surface that one is observing from is not an infinite plane. On the clearest of days, the only restriction to one's range of sight is the horizon. There can be two explanations for this - one, that the Earth at some point just stops, as if you were looking off the edge of a table. The other is that the Earth is round. Hundreds of years ago, before the invention of the compass or sextant, precise navigation for ships was difficult, even with the stars. Ships that ventured past sight of land were often lost, and thus it was generally believed that the world simply *stopped* at the end of the horizon. With the invention of the compass, and improved map-making, people began to dare more, and with the return of Columbus from his trans-Atlantic voyage, the concept of the Earth as flat was shattered.

Further proof of the Earth being round came after the voyage of Columbus. When Newton discovered and measured the force of gravity, that number could then be tested anywhere the theory was known. Since the force of gravity is roughly the same everywhere on the globe, it could be surmised that the Earth must be spherical. If the Earth were not round, whole hemispheres would have different atmospheric pressure and significantly different sea levels. Also, pictures taken of the Earth in the last 50 years have proved absolutely conclusively that the Earth is round. These are just the arguments that don't require much physics knowledge to explain, there are others that are more technical, but I think that the simplest arguments are the best.

There are a multitude of methods in which any one can prove that the earth is a sphere. These are the most common.

You can launch a rocket to a high altitude and take pictures of the earth (which various government agencies and private groups have already done thousands of times in the past), but that isn't the most practical way. Pictures and videos taken by orbiting satellites and space stations are certainly the most definitive proof that the earth is a sphere.

But if you're not convinced, read on...

You can also observe, with binoculars, ships slowly 'sinking' below the horizon as it sails farther and farther out to the ocean, then watch them come back. They certainly didn't fall off the edge of the earth! You can also sail or fly around the world.

The Greeks discovered that the earth is round by observing lunar eclipses (i.e. when the earth blocks the sun from the moon, casting its round shadow on the moon's surface).

Another method is simultaneously measuring the length of the shadows cast by identical poles perpendicular to a flat surface that is tangential to the earth's radius at various, distant locations. If indeed the earth is round, then the shadows should all vary in length from one distant location to another, which means that the angle at which the parallel rays of sunlight struck each pole varied from one location to another. (recall the alternate-angles theorem from Geometry class) If the earth is flat, then the lengths of all the shadows should be identical when measured simultaneously, since all rays of sunlight that strike the earth are parallel. However, they are not identical, but in fact, varies in such a way that the angles indicate a spherical surface. (This was one of the earliest methods to determine the radius of the earth)

Also, keep in mind the 24 hour time zones. When it is noon in Hawaii, it is approximately midnight in the Middle East and vice versa. How can it be noon and midnight simultaneously? It is certainly impossible with a flat earth and a sun millions of times more massive.

If I were a billionaire and physically fit, then proving to you the earth is round would be no problem. I can just take you with me on the space shuttle and we'll watch with our own eyes the earth from the orbiting International Space Station.

I have heard from astronauts that there is no experience comparable as watching the earth from above.

[Mollotch]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

Oh and one experiment we could all do, If we had the funding an equipment, would be to drill directly downward from a certain part of the planet that should lead to another country on the other side if the "Spherical earth 'theory'" Were true. Now, if the earth was flat, we should fall from the bottom and into space or into hell, correct?
(please tell me where we would end up falling into if i am wrong)

Now, if the earth was a sphere, we should drill through the molten core of the planet and up into the exact other side of the Earth, correct?

Someone should fund this to end this debate once and for all.

[Brother Helge]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

Oh and one experiment we could all do, If we had the funding an equipment, would be to drill directly downward from a certain part of the planet that should lead to another country on the other side if the "Spherical earth 'theory'" Were true. Now, if the earth was flat, we should fall from the bottom and into space or into hell, correct?
(please tell me where we would end up falling into if i am wrong)

Now, if the earth was a sphere, we should drill through the molten core of the planet and up into the exact other side of the Earth, correct?

Someone should fund this to end this debate once and for all.

Well, I say that you would end up in Hell.
The so called "scientist" claims that you would end up in a flaming inferno (wonder where they got that idea from).

The only thing we can agree upon is that it is a bad idea.

[Mollotch]

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But is it even possible to reach hell without sinning and dying? Surely if we fell into hell during being alive it would be kinda unfair? I mean, if you did the experiment because you were athiest you logically should fall into hell but i thought you had to die first?

And yes, a bad idea logically, but it would ultimately prove which the earth is, Ball or disc.

[Cranky Old Man]

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But is it even possible to reach hell without sinning and dying? Surely if we fell into hell during being alive it would be kinda unfair?

You try to go to Hell, you end up in Hell. I fail to see what is unfair about that.

[Mollotch]

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Earth's internal heat comes from a combination of residual heat from planetary accretion (about 20%) and heat produced through radioactive decay (80%). The major heat-producing isotopes in the Earth are potassium-40, uranium-238, uranium-235, and thorium-232. At the center of the planet, the temperature may be up to 7,000 K and the pressure could reach 360 GPa. Because much of the heat is provided by radioactive decay, scientists believe that early in Earth history, before isotopes with short half-lives had been depleted, Earth's heat production would have been much higher. This extra heat production, twice present-day at approximately 3 billion years ago, would have increased temperature gradients within the Earth, increasing the rates of mantle convection and plate tectonics, and allowing the production of igneous rocks such as komatiites that are not formed today.

Why the earth is hot in the molten core if the earth was spherical.

[Mollotch]

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You try to go to Hell, you end up in Hell. I fail to see what is unfair about that.

Not trying to go to hell, just prove which theory is the truth, But I really did think you had to die first. Is there a Bible quote to explain this, or can you just fall into hell?

But if you really wanted to go to hell, Suicide would suffice. Also, I dont think Athiests doing the project would really be looking for Hell...

Also, i agree, it is fair when you look at it that way, it just seems impossible.

[Lost Sheep McUinnean]

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Not trying to go to hell, just prove which theory is the truth
Also, i agree, it is fair when you look at it that way, it just seems impossible.

Well, you really should try to come up with something more substantial than mumbo jumbo theories which only suggest the way things are....

..Until they're modified because their experiments didn't work.

And then they're modified again. And again. And then other scientists dispute it. And then there's widespread bickering and intellectual persecution. and then there are more splits and more versions of theories. And mutual denouncing of falsehood. And more persecutions and harassment.

Nothing substantial and constant or even remotely provable. The scientific community shouldn't even be called 'community' as such. they're a disgrace to the meaning of the word with their internal in-fighting and verbal brawling.

Not one single theory of these has been able to prove anything.

The Word of God, through Scripture, on the other hand, is a rock of consistency. It explains everything. Tide goes out and tide comes in, sun goes up and sun goes down. You can trust the Word of god. Please try to listen. Is it really that hard to get?


YIC, McUinnean.