[handmaiden]

Re: If the Earth is flat...

Well guess what, you people are only a small percentage of the population. And we don't care about you people either. Go to hell.

Aww, bless your little heart. I needed a little laughter in my day. Thanks for being so predictable. You may not be making any real sense, but you've arrived at the very same place as so many obtuse trolls before you.


And little one, let me assure you that my knowledge of the Bible has instilled in me an utter and profound confidence that I will not be going to Hell.


It's a wonderful feeling, by the way. I wish the same to all humankind.

[Iplaytf2]

Re: If the Earth is flat...

Why, precisely, should I bother to explain anything of that sort to you? I have made no declaration of being a scientist. Indeed, an interest in science isn't what led me to accept Jesus as my Personal Lord and Savior all those decades ago.

I explored the claims of the Bible and believed in its words because I cared about knowing God and being a good person. As I began to closely read the Bible, I came to understand that some of my cherished ideas of what it meant to be a good person didn't square with specific concepts and commandments in the Bible. So, I spent a lot of time in prayer and kept reading and--long story short--I ended up here, at Landover Baptist Church.

I didn't end up in an observatory, because the moral conditions of life on earth as well as the-- I guess you could say-- spiritual truths of the universe mattered more to me than the shape, texture and depths of any heavenly bodies.

So, you can ask me to explain all sorts of things that you already claim to understand and then I can salvo back by asking you what you think regarding some of the serious moral issues discussed in the Bible. You stated that you have read the book three times so you ought to be able to offer some insights on its contents, but you don't. (Why you don't is actually the only remotely interesting thing about you at this point.)

As for your following proclamation:

Other, more learned individuals here have already addressed your assertions on this subject. I haven't bothered for the simple reason that I D O N ' T C A R E.

I care about the Bible and the meaning of faith and their profound influence on human history. That is why I am here.

Now, I ask you, my somewhat spurious friend, why are you here?

Well guess what, you people are only a small percentage of the population. And we don't care about you people either. Go to hell.

[handmaiden]

Re: If the Earth is flat...

I don't wanna hear that, I want to hear you explain how one works on a flat Earth model

Why, precisely, should I bother to explain anything of that sort to you? I have made no declaration of being a scientist. Indeed, an interest in science isn't what led me to accept Jesus as my Personal Lord and Savior all those decades ago.

I explored the claims of the Bible and believed in its words because I cared about knowing God and being a good person. As I began to closely read the Bible, I came to understand that some of my cherished ideas of what it meant to be a good person didn't square with specific concepts and commandments in the Bible. So, I spent a lot of time in prayer and kept reading and--long story short--I ended up here, at Landover Baptist Church.

I didn't end up in an observatory, because the moral conditions of life on earth as well as the-- I guess you could say-- spiritual truths of the universe mattered more to me than the shape, texture and depths of any heavenly bodies.

So, you can ask me to explain all sorts of things that you already claim to understand and then I can salvo back by asking you what you think regarding some of the serious moral issues discussed in the Bible. You stated that you have read the book three times so you ought to be able to offer some insights on its contents, but you don't. (Why you don't is actually the only remotely interesting thing about you at this point.)

As for your following proclamation:

Hint: IT DOESNT, AND YET, THERE ARE LUNAR ECLIPSES, WHICH SHOW A R O U N D E A R T H

Other, more learned individuals here have already addressed your assertions on this subject. I haven't bothered for the simple reason that I D O N ' T C A R E.

I care about the Bible and the meaning of faith and their profound influence on human history. That is why I am here.

Now, I ask you, my somewhat spurious friend, why are you here?

[Johny Joe Hold]

Re: If the Earth is flat...

Half moon, crescent moon, whatever this on is, it's flat. The moon is flat, always has been, always will be. Get over it.

[Iplaytf2]

Re: If the Earth is flat...

Boy, are you worked up about the moon! Why is that more important than your immortal soul?


Also, do you have any thoughts on significant moral issues that the Bible addresses, like genocide, slavery, rape and capitol punishment? Or is everything about the pretty lights in the sky with you?

I don't wanna hear that, I want to hear you explain how one works on a flat Earth model


Hint: IT DOESNT, AND YET, THERE ARE LUNAR ECLIPSES, WHICH SHOW A R O U N D E A R T H

[Didymus Much]

Re: If the Earth is flat...

Ok, well, another question. How do Lunar Eclipses work to you people?????

The Bible explains it.


So many come here and claim to have read the Bible, yet cannot remember what it says. I wonder why that is?

[handmaiden]

Re: If the Earth is flat...

Ok, well, another question. How do Lunar Eclipses work to you people?????

Boy, are you worked up about the moon! Why is that more important than your immortal soul?


Also, do you have any thoughts on significant moral issues that the Bible addresses, like genocide, slavery, rape and capitol punishment? Or is everything about the pretty lights in the sky with you?

[Iplaytf2]

Re: If the Earth is flat...

Win, what?


Mark 8:36

For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?

Ok, well, another question. How do Lunar Eclipses work to you people?????

[Iplaytf2]

Re: If the Earth is flat...

The audacity these homers have in their search for sex is alarming. Thankfully the admins here guard us from danger.

SEX???? HAHAHAHAHA YOUVE GOTTA BE KIDDING BE


I hope you burn in hell.

[handmaiden]

Re: If the Earth is flat...

Wow. Still no moon picture. You guys are so stubborn. That means I win and the earth is SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN to be round. You lose. I win. Suck on that.

Talk on Gmail. Right now you stupid idiot. The moon is not flat, and I will tell you on Gmail why. If you don't, I'm going to automatically win this argument and say that the earth is round.

Win, what?


Mark 8:36

For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?

[Johny Joe Hold]

Re: If the Earth is flat...

Or, even better, email me here at [unsolicited private address removed by moderator - this is not a pick-up joint] we will talk there.

The audacity these homers have in their search for sex is alarming. Thankfully the admins here guard us from danger.

[Didymus Much]

Re: If the Earth is flat...

Ratface.

And even our friendly little hamster is met with ignorant musophobia.


I suspect someone has difficulty making friends?

[Iplaytf2]

Re: If the Earth is flat...

That is not how it works. You have to bring examples, facts and data to support your argument. On this forum the only source is the Bible, you won´t convince True Christians™ with anything else. You might convince me if you brought anything to sustain your claim.

Ratface.

[Roland]

Re: If the Earth is flat...

I'm going to automatically win this argument

That is not how it works. You have to bring examples, facts and data to support your argument. On this forum the only source is the Bible, you won´t convince True Christians(TM) with anything else. You might convince me if you brought anything to sustain your claim.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: If the Earth is flat...

I mean over head as in Local Apperant Lunar Noon, the time in which case the moon falls onto your latitude and is straight up.

Regardless of which model you use, the moon is always in direct line of sight. There are 3 essential models.

1. The moon is set in the firmament and the firmament moves. Clearly there is no way for Robert The Bruce to not be in plain sight. Your gaze is afferent from the moon's perspective regardless of whether you think its markings look like a Scottish king.

2. God is very clear that the sun and the moon are both set in The Firmament; nevertheless their positions relative to one another change. That means the method of attachment is dynamic. In the case of an igloo, the pressure of the coin against the ice enables it to slide around, like ice skates on ice. Perhaps the sunlight assists in this. The sun's radiation is efferent from its perspective.

3. In both the above models the moon is round. Clearly if it were spinning around on the axis of a line from the moon to your head it would always appear round and the markings would always be about the same. As they are. If it spun on some other axis, a chord or tangent across the roof in my igloo example, we'd see it change shape differently from what we observe. MODEL THREE proposes a ball-shaped moon to get around this. Unfortunately then its markings would change if that were the case, quite apart from it becoming unnecessarily complicated.

4. It could spin around like a yoyo on a string I suppose, in which case you'd see epicycles. But you don't. So it isn't.