[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" away?

Oh Mary I'm so glad that my Salvation has nothing to do with you or your beliefs but what I know in my heart of heart to he true. And I wasnt questioning on the lack of faith I was questioning because I want to know what you think but as I can tell from you dodging the questions and your mindless attacks on whether I'm saved or not shows your lack of knowledge on even your own bible!

Are you saying your heart is the accurate milestone by which we can determine Truth? More so than the Holy Bible?

The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked:
who can know it?
Jeremiah 17:9

[FatZ2018]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" away?

Again dodging the question at hand! And I know my heart and so does Jesus! But then again I dont expect you to know what that means. You think that God doesnt love everyone!

[Didymus Much]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" away?

Again dodging the question at hand! And I know my heart and so does Jesus! But then again I dont expect you to know what that means. You think that God doesnt love everyone!

If God loved everyone, why does the Bible say that most people are going to Hell?


Why is there a sin that will not be forgiven?


Why did He create us with the urges that He hates so much He condemns us to Hell for having them?


etc.

[FatZ2018]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" away?

Didymus He created us free thinking! We make the choices we make. But that's why He sent us His son Jesus as a why of getting back to Him!! There is no sin that is unforgivable. John 3:16. Do you think God would send His Son to die for us if He didnt love everyone!

[Didymus Much]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" away?

...There is no sin that is unforgivable...

How about you read the WHOLE Bible before you going lying to people about what it says?

Matthew 12:32 "And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come."

...John 3:16...

John 3:18 "He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God."

...Do you think God would send His Son to "play die" FOR TWO AND A HALF ENTIRE DAYS for us if He didnt love everyone!

FTFY, and no, because I don't believe in God, remember? Even if I did, the Bible tells a different story than the one you and many others would like to think it does.

[FatZ2018]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" away?

What story does the Bible tell that I dont get? And make no mistake about it I'm not judging you in anyway I'm not going to force my beliefs on you. Nor will I hold yours against you in anyway. And the thing about salvation is that no matter what you do it cant be taken away. That's why there is a repentance. I believe God sent Jesus cause he knew men couldnt hold to His 10 commandments. No one in this world is perfect and without sin.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" away?

No one in this world is perfect and without sin.

This is the kind of absurdity that comes from those who are obviously not familiar with the Word of God. This is the very absurdity the devil delights in, for your heart belongs to Satan all the while thinking it's Jesus you follow. Once again you're making up your own theology and pretending Jesus agrees. He most certainly does not.

Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
1st John 3:6-9

We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.
1st John 5:18

[FatZ2018]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" away?

Again Mary thank you for not answering the question! And thank God my salvation depends nothing on you or your church's twisted satanic beliefs! But hey we stand before God and his Son on our last day you know what we will find out that no church was correct in what was preached!

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" away?

Again Mary thank you for not answering the question! And thank God my salvation depends nothing on you or your church's twisted satanic beliefs! But hey we stand before God and his Son on our last day you know what we will find out that no church was correct in what was preached!

Oh Lordy what hand-holding you need. Your question:

What story does the Bible tell that I dont get?

My answer was a direct reply to your comment, "No one in this world is perfect and without sin." And still you don't know where you misunderstandings lie.

Let me connect the dots for you:

You asked what story the Bible tells that you don't get.
I corrected your erroneous assumption that no one in this world is perfect and without sin. The "story" you tell is of a Jesus who loves and will forgive everyone, and that no one is perfect. What you don't get is the Bible says differently. Didymus already mentioned eternal damnation, and the unforgivable sins, but you ignored his comment to throw out another attempted "gotcha" question worthy of a Methodist.

What you don't get is that the faith you hold on to has never exceeded the feel-goodism claptrap taught in second grade Vacation Bible School. People like you are always shocked to learn the Holy Word of God doesn't conform to their VeggieTales version of the Scriptures.

For someone who thinks she has the Truth, despite glaring, gaping holes of ignorance in her Biblical knowledge, I suggest you start by familiarizing yourself with the Gospel of Luke. There you will be introduced to Jesus' parable (that's a kind of story, so sit up straight and pay attention when you get to that part) about the rich man and Lazarus (Luke 16:19-31).

Is this theological concept too complex for you? Would you like a picture to make it easier to understand?




Jesus does not forgive everyone. He has given a warning, but not everyone will heed it, and not everyone will hear it.

He only forgives those who put their faith in Him (hint, this does not mean their version of Him, or who they wish Him to be).




This little Muslim child will suffer eternal damnation if he is not Born Again, according to the Holy Bible (John 3:18).




These Sikh children can look forward to the Lake of Fire if their names are not written in the Book of Life (Revelation 20:15).




These children of Satan will grow to embody blaspheme unless they repent (John 8:44).




There is no Justification in the Shinto religion (Galatians 3:24).

And Jesus will watch as they live out His Perfect Justice.
And He will laugh and laugh and laugh!
Psalms 2:4

[FatZ2018]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" away?

Mary apparently you need some hand holding! That's not the question I was asking you. I asked you when satan was cast out of heaven. But I guess you dont have the answer for that so you have to attack me on other things that I have to answer you for! But whatever.

[FatZ2018]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" away?

And yes Mary that is the only way to heaven is to profess Jesus as your Lord and Savior. But you are to busy criticizing me rather than trying to understand me.

[Basilissa]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" away?

Mary apparently you need some hand holding! That's not the question I was asking you. I asked you when satan was cast out of heaven. But I guess you dont have the answer for that so you have to attack me on other things that I have to answer you for! But whatever.

Dear, when you say dumb things, someone will eventually correct you. That's just life.

Regarding your question, I will reply with a Bible quote:

1 Timothy 1:4 Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do.

Titus 3:9 But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain.

God is clear on the matter: instead of wasting your time thinking about futile details, you should be reading and obeying the Bible. And, as it has been shown both by Sister Mary E. and that Didymus fellow, you haven't been doing that as you are clearly ignorant of what the Bible says.

[Dolores de Barriga]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" away?

And yes Mary that is the only way to heaven is to profess Jesus as your Lord and Savior. But you are to busy criticizing me rather than trying to understand me.

Hello Miss or Mr. BigZ! I have been reading this discussion with much interest. I think I understand what you are saying, and I admire your faith. When I look at the same verses, including John 3:18, I just cannot stop thinking about millions of people who have been doomed to Hell just because they were born at the wrong time in the wrong place. Nowadays, you could probably argue that a vast majority of humanity can be exposed to Christianity if they wish it. That was not the case 1000, 100, or even 50 years ago.

Don't you think it is a bit cruel that God automatically sends all people who do not believe in Jesus to Hell, including those who lived and died without ever having an opportunity to hear about Him?

Because to me it looks like God loves a very tiny minority of humanity, and enjoys sending 99.9% of people to Hell. After all, He is God, He created the game of life, hence, He could have set the rules whatever way He wanted.



It really confuses me, because I want to believe in a benevolent God, but the Bible and history teach me otherwise.

[FatZ2018]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" away?

Delores it is mr and thank you for being talkative rather than combative. It's a tough call on salvation. I know what I have been taught but then you cross that fine line of people that dont have the chance to hear the gospel suchas aborted babies. I would love to think that they get to go to heaven. But according to Landover trueChristian's their Jesus is rejoicing about them going to hell. I dont pretend to know everything or have all the answers at all.

[Dolores de Barriga]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" away?

Delores it is mr and thank you for being talkative rather than combative. It's a tough call on salvation. I know what I have been taught but then you cross that fine line of people that dont have the chance to hear the gospel suchas aborted babies. I would love to think that they get to go to heaven. But according to Landover trueChristian's their Jesus is rejoicing about them going to hell. I dont pretend to know everything or have all the answers at all.

Sure we don't have all the answers. Heck, I'm not sure we're asking the right questions half of the time. Yet, for Christians, the Holy Bible should contain some of the answers people seek, right? And the Bible is clear - all people who do not believe in Jesus go to Hell. That includes not only aborted babies, but also babies that were born and then died of cancer or malnutrition or any other reason, at an age before they were able to accept Jesus. And that also includes millions of people who were born and died in the Americas before European invasion of this continent.

So the Bible tells us that God wants all these individuals to suffer in Hell. Otherwise, He would have made different rules - He is omnipotent, after all.


I dunno about you, but that makes me doubt that such God is even worthy of our worship. He sounds really cruel to me. And yes I know - chances are that I will burn in Hell for thinking this, but I just cannot force myself to bow before this sadistic God of the Bible.