[Throe up]

Re: Flat Earth? Hell Yes!

1. Time zones were put into place at a meeting in Washington D.C. In AMERICA. Also, racist? That's hilarious coming from you.

2. I did have a response, but thought you were not deserving of it. I'll give it to you now. It has been ASSUMED in some parts of the world that it is flat. They had no evidence of it. In other parts of the ancient world, it was known to be round by many people. It was proven by their mathematicians.

3. He never said anything Anti-God. Not once, in his post.

4. How is Islam Satanic? They merely state that there was one different prophet, and they have a different name for their spiritual entity. (God)

Matthew 6:24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

2 Corinthians 6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you.

You stated, with these quotes to support you, that science and God were two different masters. Christian scientists use SCIENCE to attempt to prove God's word. Are they unclean? Are they traitors?

[Take That]

Re: Flat Earth? Hell Yes!

I don't see you answering his question. Maybe your arguments aren't quite as ironclad as you think?


Also, as to your "gravity bending light" idea, I think I can put that to rest.
First, we have the equation for the force of gravity between two objects.

F=G* (M#1 *M#2)/ D^2

F= Force
G= The Universal Gravity Constant: 6.67*10 ^-11
M#1 = The mass of the first object.
M#2 = The mass of the second object.
D = The distance between the two objects.

M#1 = A photon of light moving at the speed of light. (5.525 *10 ^-36 kg) Take note that a photon at rest has zero mass.
M#2 = Mass of the earth. (5.96*10 ^24 kg)
For D, pick an arbitrary number. Let's say, for the purpose of this equation, that the light is 100 m (meters) away.
Alright, now we put the numbers in place of the variables that represent them, and solve. I'll do this a step at a time.
F= (6.67 *10^-11) * ((5.525*10^-36) *(5.96*10^24))/ (100)
F= (6.67 *10^-11) * (3.2929*10^-11)/(100)
F= (6.67 *10^-11) * (3.2929*10^-13)
F= 2.1963643*10^-23
So, F= 0.0000000000000000000000021963643
That's an EXTREMELY small number. Almost no effect WHATSOEVER.

We can even use the zero for photon mass, if it suits you.
F= (6.67 *10^-11) * ((0) *(5.96*10^24))/ (100)
F= (6.67 *10^-11) * (0)/(100)
F= (6.67 *10^-11) * (0)
F=0
Therefore, there is NO EFFECT on a photon that is not moving. So, there is either little to no effect on a photon of light.

Mathematics and physics are wonderful things good sir.

[Brother Temperance]

Re: Flat Earth? Hell Yes!

Also, where does it say in the bible that gravity bends light? Quote it.

Also, those points weren't posted while I was posting my response.

1. What proof do you have that all foreigners are lazy?

Time zones. The racist Germans are renowned for their punctuality and efficiency, and yet they still get up an hour later than proper people do.

2. Again with the prejudice. I won't even dignify this with a response, other than the contempt in this sentence.

In other words, you don't have a response.

3. Good job with the taking what he said out of context. I'm sure you would make a great news reporter.

Good job with the complete and utter failure to defend his anti-God bigotry. I'm sure you'd make a great bar of soap.

4. Hmm, so anything not Christian is athiest?

No, some things are openly Satanic. Islam, for instance.

And you know there are christian scientists, right? There's even one on this site.

Yes, but those are Christian scientists, not secular scientists. True scientists start from God's word and look for proof to support it; they're not bounded by seculiar "rationality".

[SayvedByTheLord]

Re: Flat Earth? Hell Yes!

Brother Vomit,

God has sent you to us and we must save you from your path to hell.

Tell us about yourself

[Throe up]

Re: Flat Earth? Hell Yes!

Karl Marx had nothing to do with science. He was a person that studied societies, and basically invented communism. Learn history.

[Throe up]

Re: Flat Earth? Hell Yes!

Also, where does it say in the bible that gravity bends light? Quote it.

Also, those points weren't posted while I was posting my response.

1. What proof do you have that all foreigners are lazy?

2. Again with the prejudice. I won't even dignify this with a response, other than the contempt in this sentence.

3. Good job with the taking what he said out of context. I'm sure you would make a great news reporter.

4. Hmm, so anything not Christian is athiest? And you know there are christian scientists, right? There's even one on this site.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Flat Earth? Hell Yes!

Copy and paste? Ha. I wrote that myself. Search it.

I should ban you for that advice. A Google search of your name produces incredibly disgusting results.

We follow God's Holy Word. Not Karl Marx's latest calculations on how something comes from nothing.

[Brother Temperance]

Re: Flat Earth? Hell Yes!

My response was to Pastor Billy, to clarify.

In other words, you admit you have no response to my Divinely inspired and beautifully phrased points? I await your apology.

[Throe up]

Re: Flat Earth? Hell Yes!

Copy and paste? Ha. I wrote that myself. Search it.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Flat Earth? Hell Yes!

Nice cut-and-paste job, boy.

Which chapter in the Holy Bible is all that gobbeldy-gook covered?

[Throe up]

Re: Flat Earth? Hell Yes!

My response was to Pastor Billy, to clarify.

[Throe up]

Re: Flat Earth? Hell Yes!

I don't see you answering his question. Maybe your arguments aren't quite as ironclad as you think?


Also, as to your "gravity bending light" idea, I think I can put that to rest.
First, we have the equation for the force of gravity between two objects.

F=G* (M#1 *M#2)/ D^2

F= Force
G= The Universal Gravity Constant: 6.67*10 ^-11
M#1 = The mass of the first object.
M#2 = The mass of the second object.
D = The distance between the two objects.

M#1 = A photon of light moving at the speed of light. (5.525 *10 ^-36 kg) Take note that a photon at rest has zero mass.
M#2 = Mass of the earth. (5.96*10 ^24 kg)
For D, pick an arbitrary number. Let's say, for the purpose of this equation, that the light is 100 m (meters) away.
Alright, now we put the numbers in place of the variables that represent them, and solve. I'll do this a step at a time.
F= (6.67 *10^-11) * ((5.525*10^-36) *(5.96*10^24))/ (100)
F= (6.67 *10^-11) * (3.2929*10^-11)/(100)
F= (6.67 *10^-11) * (3.2929*10^-13)
F= 2.1963643*10^-23
So, F= 0.0000000000000000000000021963643
That's an EXTREMELY small number. Almost no effect WHATSOEVER.

We can even use the zero for photon mass, if it suits you.
F= (6.67 *10^-11) * ((0) *(5.96*10^24))/ (100)
F= (6.67 *10^-11) * (0)/(100)
F= (6.67 *10^-11) * (0)
F=0
Therefore, there is NO EFFECT on a photon that is not moving. So, there is either little to no effect on a photon of light.

[Brother Temperance]

Re: Flat Earth? Hell Yes!

Born_again_bob.
Am I to believe that your post claims that all scientific knowledge and common sense are weaker then the Bible? The Bible is both full of metaphors and written by people. That is a large hole in your "theory". How is it possible to...
Watch a sunrise, have time-zones, see the curvature of the earth off a high mountain, take flights that go around the world?

Timezones happen because foreigners are lazy and like to get up late. The degenerate Mary-hailing Spaniards like to have siestas, does this prove that God's creation is shaped like a banana?

The shape of the earth has been known to be a sphere for quite some time, it is incredibly foolish to abandon that and assume it's flat because of a verse in the bible involving the earth and corners.

And it's been known to be flat for even longer, so it'd be even more foolish to abandon that and assume it's a sphere because of some hellbound heathens getting up to Jew japes.

I myself am i christian, not of this landover baptist faith, or any baptist faith, and my morals are based quite a bit on the bible itself

That's nice, seeing how God wants us to love Him with quite a bit of our heart and quite a bit of our soul and quite a bit of our might. No, wait, that's not what He said, is it?

Revelation 3:15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.
16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.

Christianity is an all-or-nothing deal. If you get Jesus to forgive quite a bit of your sins, do you think that'll save quite a bit of your soul from eternal torture in Hell?

however science has done quite a bit to improve the world we are living in, it has gave us many medicines, anesthetics, electronics, and explanations for many things around us. I will not disagree with you completely on open the bible, as you will not put your faith in science, however i do feel that a smooth blending of both is a great outlook to have.

Matthew 6:24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

2 Corinthians 6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you.

Sorry, it looks like your smooth blending of Christianity and atheism doesn't impress God much. You have to pick one or the other: God's word, or secular "rationality". What's it going to be then, eh?

[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

Re: Flat Earth? Hell Yes!

No, you are traveling in a circle, but in the same sense, you can follow the equator of the earth around, making a complete circle around the earth.

Also, there is a difference between the sun and a flashlight, as a flashlight is a directed source of light, of a much greater size and intensity than a flashlight, or any other source of light we have on earth for that matter. And following up on light (i see a common arguement on here is that gravity bends light, so therefore if the earth was round we would have constant daylight), as you approach the poles of the earth, so in places such as Antarctica, there is constant daylight some months of the year, depending on where exactly the earth is on its orbit around the sun. So for your theory to be true, there would have to be two suns, as daylight is so long in places like Alaska or Antarctica, because if the earth was flat and there was only one sun, and the sun orbited around the earth, everywhere would have to same amount of daylight every single day, and its obvious there is only one sun.

Of course there is only one sun.

As I said before, this has already been explained here in this very thread. Please read the whole thread before raising the same tired "objections" that have already been put to rest.

Are you going to be lazy, or do I have to scroll back through and find it for you.

Remind me again why I let you out of quarantine?

Pastor Billy-Reuben

[Take That]

Re: Flat Earth? Hell Yes!

No, you are traveling in a circle, but in the same sense, you can follow the equator of the earth around, making a complete circle around the earth.

Also, there is a difference between the sun and a flashlight, as a flashlight is a directed source of light, of a much greater size and intensity than a flashlight, or any other source of light we have on earth for that matter. And following up on light (i see a common arguement on here is that gravity bends light, so therefore if the earth was round we would have constant daylight), as you approach the poles of the earth, so in places such as Antarctica, there is constant daylight some months of the year, depending on where exactly the earth is on its orbit around the sun. So for your theory to be true, there would have to be two suns, as daylight is so long in places like Alaska or Antarctica, because if the earth was flat and there was only one sun, and the sun orbited around the earth, everywhere would have to same amount of daylight every single day, and its obvious there is only one sun.