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  • Re: Homeschool Science Lessons: Proving atheists wrong with science

    Hello all. Before I type any of my response, I would like to make it clear that I am neither agnostic, atheist, not religious. I have a set of beliefs, a philosophy if you will, and nothing more. I am not attacking anyone in what I say, and I hope that it will be read in a civil manner.

    Firstly, the water. The picture posted simply proved how much water exists in a liquid state at one given time, on the Earth's surface/crust. However, it does not account for the water that is within organisms or other objects. I do believe I read something that brought up the law of conservation of mass/energy. Neither is created nor destroyed. The question then brought up was where the "new" water was coming from? The fact of the matter is, whoever stated this is correct, but also incorrect. Water is not being "created" in the sense that it is coming from nowhere, however, it is being created in a sense that liquid water is condensing and collecting. To bring this idea to life, we can take our own bodies for example. Regardless of what you believe in, we still know that a physical form of our body is left on Earth, yes? Within that physical form, are chemicals, compounds, and various things. One of which, is water. Through specific heat, various filtration methods, and things I probably don't know about, we can assume that as our body deteriorates, the water is lost. It does not disappear, just as the water we are drinking does not appear from nowhere. Instead, the water soaks into the soil around our physical being. If you are not buried, then the water evaporates slowly out of/off of our bodies. Bringing in the idea of cremation, the water is heated to a point of its gaseous state and therefore still exists. In the end, however, the water is still within the world. It simply gets recycled. As it floats up in a gaseous state, or sits in the permeable layer of the Earth's crust, it condenses, until eventually you have underwater wells/pockets, or clouds. No matter the circumstance, you will have fresh water that has been recycled.

    To finish this post off, I want to say that no side can prove or disprove religion/faith, just as they cannot prove or disprove science. The fact of the matter is, the only thing compelling us to believe in such things is logic. It is the sense made when connecting two details. We should stop focusing on who is correct more often, and start focusing on what is right. If you are constantly bashing others for their beliefs, why do you do it? If you believe that nonbelievers will go to hell, then let them. If you believe that religious followers are crazy, then let them go insane.

    Thank you for reading, and I hope this has brought light to both sides of the argument. Good luck with life's endeavors, and may you live a wonderful life.

    Psalm 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done
    abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

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    • Re: Homeschool Science Lessons: Proving atheists wrong with science

      Originally posted by PeaceOfMind View Post
      Hello all. Before I type any of my response, I would like to make it clear that I am neither agnostic, atheist, not religious. I have a set of beliefs, a philosophy if you will, and nothing more. I am not attacking anyone in what I say, and I hope that it will be read in a civil manner.

      Firstly, the water. The picture posted simply proved how much water exists in a liquid state at one given time, on the Earth's surface/crust. However, it does not account for the water that is within organisms or other objects. I do believe I read something that brought up the law of conservation of mass/energy. Neither is created nor destroyed. The question then brought up was where the "new" water was coming from? The fact of the matter is, whoever stated this is correct, but also incorrect. Water is not being "created" in the sense that it is coming from nowhere, however, it is being created in a sense that liquid water is condensing and collecting. To bring this idea to life, we can take our own bodies for example. Regardless of what you believe in, we still know that a physical form of our body is left on Earth, yes? Within that physical form, are chemicals, compounds, and various things. One of which, is water. Through specific heat, various filtration methods, and things I probably don't know about, we can assume that as our body deteriorates, the water is lost. It does not disappear, just as the water we are drinking does not appear from nowhere. Instead, the water soaks into the soil around our physical being. If you are not buried, then the water evaporates slowly out of/off of our bodies. Bringing in the idea of cremation, the water is heated to a point of its gaseous state and therefore still exists. In the end, however, the water is still within the world. It simply gets recycled. As it floats up in a gaseous state, or sits in the permeable layer of the Earth's crust, it condenses, until eventually you have underwater wells/pockets, or clouds. No matter the circumstance, you will have fresh water that has been recycled.

      To finish this post off, I want to say that no side can prove or disprove religion/faith, just as they cannot prove or disprove science. The fact of the matter is, the only thing compelling us to believe in such things is logic. It is the sense made when connecting two details. We should stop focusing on who is correct more often, and start focusing on what is right. If you are constantly bashing others for their beliefs, why do you do it? If you believe that nonbelievers will go to hell, then let them. If you believe that religious followers are crazy, then let them go insane.

      Thank you for reading, and I hope this has brought light to both sides of the argument. Good luck with life's endeavors, and may you live a wonderful life.

      I stopped reading at conservation of energy and mass.

      Once there was nothing. Then there was everything. Jesus is not bound by such tomfoolery and the Bible(KJV1611) is very specific on this.

      1 Timothy 6:20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:

      1 Timothy 6:21 Which some professing have erred concerning the faith. Grace be with thee. Amen.

      I hope that one day you will accept Jesus' conditional love as the only escape from eternal damnation in the Lake of Fire.

      God bless
      1 Corinthians 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

      Revelation 22:15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

      Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

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      • Re: Homeschool Science Lessons: Proving atheists wrong with science

        Originally posted by Dr Laurence Niles View Post
        I stopped reading at conservation of energy and mass.

        Once there was nothing. Then there was everything. Jesus is not bound by such tomfoolery and the Bible(KJV1611) is very specific on this.

        1 Timothy 6:20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:

        1 Timothy 6:21 Which some professing have erred concerning the faith. Grace be with thee. Amen.

        I hope that one day you will accept Jesus' conditional love as the only escape from eternal damnation in the Lake of Fire.

        God bless
        Why would you stop reading?

        Page 1, post #17. Someone used the same principle, but was on the side of god. Does it work one way, yet not the other? All I ask is that you consider, rather than pushing my post aside at a mere sentence.

        I appreciate your time regardless.

        Thanks.
        Psalm 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done
        abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

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        • Re: Homeschool Science Lessons: Proving atheists wrong with science

          Originally posted by PeaceOfMind View Post
          Why would you stop reading?

          Page 1, post #17. Someone used the same principle, but was on the side of god. Does it work one way, yet not the other? All I ask is that you consider, rather than pushing my post aside at a mere sentence.

          I appreciate your time regardless.

          Thanks.
          The point is that where science conflicts with Jesus science is wrong.

          Where did all the water go when the flood waters receded? How did the potassium pumps in Lazarus' neurons reactivate when he was ressurected? How did Jesus reduce His body density to that which allowed Him to walk on water but not be blown away by the smallest breeze?

          None of these questions can be answered. Science tells us this is impossible. Yet it happened.

          Jesus one, science nil.

          YIC
          1 Corinthians 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

          Revelation 22:15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

          Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

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          • Re: Homeschool Science Lessons: Proving atheists wrong with science

            After we drink the water we pass it through our body, so it enters the water cycle again.
            1st law of thermodynamics: energy and mass is always conserved.
            A whip for the horse, a bridle for the ass, and a rod for the fool's back. Proverbs 26:3

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            • Re: Homeschool Science Lessons: Proving atheists wrong with science

              Originally posted by GodGodGod View Post
              After we drink the water we pass it through our body, so it enters the water cycle again.
              1st law of thermodynamics: energy and mass is always conserved.
              Where does it say that in the Bible?

              Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

              And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself.

              I will pray that the Holy Spirit enter you and chase the demons out of your rectum and let Jesus fill you with His Grace. If you use your God-given free will to reject Christ and His temporary death on the cross for my sins, then you are sending yourself to hellfire.
              Who Will Jesus Damn?

              Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

              Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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              • Re: Homeschool Science Lessons: Proving atheists wrong with science

                Originally posted by maxfailing View Post
                After we drink the water we pass it through our body, so it enters the water cycle again.
                1st law of thermodynamics: energy and mass is always conserved.
                Hello maxfailing.

                I do not think you have read the Bible especially the Book of Isaiah look at Isaiah 40:29 it says:

                He giveth power to the faint; and to them that have no might he increaseth strength.

                Later in that chapter some people get eagle wings think about that for a minute.

                Thank you.

                Rusty
                Psalms 116:6 The LORD preserveth the simple: I was brought low, and he helped me.

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                • Re: Homeschool Science Lessons: Proving atheists wrong with science

                  Originally posted by Zechariah Smyth View Post
                  Well, well, well, looks like we got us a poop-eater.



                  (2 Kings 18:27) "But Rabshakeh said unto them, Hath my master sent me to thy master, and to thee, to speak these words? hath he not sent me to the men which sit on the wall, that they may eat their own dung, and drink their own piss with you?"

                  Yuck! Dutchland people are so gross.



                  Yours in Christ,

                  Z. Smyth
                  So, apart from being an alchemist, he is also a scatologist?
                  Isaiah 66:15

                  For behold, the Lord wil come with fire, and with his charets like a whirlewinde, to render his anger with furie, and his rebuke with flames of fire.

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                  • Re: Homeschool Science Lessons: Proving atheists wrong with science

                    Originally posted by Thomas Taylor View Post
                    So, apart from being an alchemist, he is also a scatologist?
                    Hmm, please decide on my gender. After stating that I wa going to enjoy a Wiener for dinner, people thought I was gay. I asked, wether or not people considered, I was a woman, and everybody 'knew' that I had to be one because of my dumb posts.

                    Bet there are some things Jesus didn't tell you, e.g. my gender?
                    Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

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                    • Re: Homeschool Science Lessons: Proving atheists wrong with science

                      Originally posted by krunsch View Post
                      I was a woman, and everybody 'knew' that I had to be one because of my dumb posts.
                      Please, this is not a libfem chat room.

                      If you have a point please make it; but really, this is a site for Jesus. Would you walk into a church and start spouting calculus in a attempt to disprove Jesus?

                      Of course not.

                      Please check you prejudices in at the door.

                      YIC
                      1 Corinthians 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

                      Revelation 22:15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

                      Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

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                      • Re: Homeschool Science Lessons: Proving atheists wrong with science

                        Originally posted by Rev. M. Rodimer View Post
                        Friends -

                        We all know how much the atheists love their "science". Well, a parent in my congregation sent me this little graphic, one of a series (she's trying to track down the original source). She's hoping to put together a Creation Science home school workbook!



                        I particularly like that the author has done the math in the footnotes.
                        For the first: Water that is once consumed does not simply disappear… Water is recycled through what is rather boringly called the Water cycle:



                        Secondly, are you people seriously that inept that you think that water just goes into our bodies and stays there? If you drank 2 litres of water each day and it stayed there you would gain 2 kg of weight each day for your whole life (not counting all the food you eat, would that stay inside too???). What do you think happens to pee? Dirty water comes out! And it isn’t just gathered in some kind of underground reservoir for eternity; it is cleaned and sent out in the lake or ocean again. Then another building pick up some water, clean that too and pipe it to your house where you drink it again. Ever heard of a sewage treatment or Water treatment?




                        Believing in this nonsense has nothing to do with being Christian! This is just being stupid!
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                        • Re: Homeschool Science Lessons: Proving atheists wrong with science

                          Originally posted by HonestDisagreer View Post
                          This is just being stupid!
                          Well that's a fine How Do You Do from a person enjoying the privilege of using our friendly forum without so much as a "Hello." Although the internets might seem to be "free" to you, this particular corner of the internets is a privately owned Christian forum. The rights you have on this forum can be read HERE. Please contact a Pastor immediately if you feel that any of your rights have been violated.

                          Goodness, do all mothers of atheists raise their demon-spawn to be so rude?
                          Hello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.

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                          • Re: Homeschool Science Lessons: Proving atheists wrong with science

                            Originally posted by Mary Etheldreda View Post
                            Well that's a fine How Do You Do from a person enjoying the privilege of using our friendly forum without so much as a "Hello." Although the internets might seem to be "free" to you, this particular corner of the internets is a privately owned Christian forum. The rights you have on this forum can be read HERE. Please contact a Pastor immediately if you feel that any of your rights have been violated.

                            Goodness, do all mothers of atheists raise their demon-spawn to be so rude?
                            I am sorry for my rudeness. You are right, it was uncalled for. However, I do not in any way insult or question any religious beliefs with my statement. I do however point out how incredibly wrong this "calculation" is and it really angered me that someone would teach a child that the water cycle works like that for no good reason. God works perfectly fine without someone messing with these facts.

                            Hello, btw.
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                            • Re: Homeschool Science Lessons: Proving atheists wrong with science

                              Originally posted by HonestDisagreer View Post
                              I am sorry for my rudeness. You are right, it was uncalled for. However, I do not in any way insult or question any religious beliefs with my statement. I do however point out how incredibly wrong this "calculation" is and it really angered me that someone would teach a child that the water cycle works like that for no good reason. God works perfectly fine without someone messing with these facts.

                              Hello, btw.
                              What do you mean, "for no good reason"? What better reason to teach a child than the Truth(c)?

                              Thank you for the apology. I forgive you.
                              Hello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.

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                              • Re: Homeschool Science Lessons: Proving atheists wrong with science

                                Originally posted by Mary Etheldreda View Post
                                What do you mean, "for no good reason"? What better reason to teach a child than the Truth©?

                                Thank you for the apology. I forgive you.
                                Thank you, I was upset before.

                                What is the truth? That water does not recycle? Is that what you consider to be true? It is not true. Is there a bible verse that says so that you can rely on? Is there any scientific study that says so? Show me. If not, stop calming it: because then you have no proof that neither you nor I will accept.
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