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  • Dr. Otto Bond Sr.
    Away on vacation, or very possibly deceased
    BANNED from Landover -- Aeternal Damnation Assured
    • Feb 2008
    • 177

    #1

    Angelic ancestors

    I read in Genesis 6 that angels (the Sons of God) once "co-habitated" with human women and had children (called Nephilim). Does this mean that some people can trace their geneology back to an angel?
  • Peter
    Confirmed Enemy of God
    • Feb 2007
    • 279

    #2
    Re: Angelic ancestors

    No, because angels aren't real. Simple answer to a stupid question.

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    • Nobar King
      Municipal Code Archivist - Deuteronomy 28:58
      Christ's Guardian
      True Christian™
      • Sep 2007
      • 23748

      #3
      Re: Angelic ancestors

      Originally posted by Peter View Post
      No, because angels aren't real. Simple answer to a stupid question.
      What kind of asshat answer is that?!?!?! You have specific proof of the non-existence of angels? Really? What do you think they are saying about YOU right now?
      May you be a blessing to every life you touch.

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      • Peter
        Confirmed Enemy of God
        • Feb 2007
        • 279

        #4
        Re: Angelic ancestors

        Originally posted by Nobar King View Post
        What kind of asshat answer is that?!?!?! You have specific proof of the non-existence of angels? Really? What do you think they are saying about YOU right now?
        There is no proof of there existence, no fossils, no footprints, no real pictures (except drewn pictures, but they're no proof),...

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        • Dr. Santiago Solo
          On Permanent Assignment in Peru
          Forum Member
          • Dec 2007
          • 860

          #5
          Re: Angelic ancestors

          Originally posted by Peter View Post
          There is no proof of there existence, no fossils, no footprints, no real pictures (except drewn pictures, but they're no proof),...
          The lack of evidence does not mean the evidence of lack, Pedro... or will you say that because you don't have any pictures of your great-great-great grandfather, or fossils, or his footprint in your head, he didn't exist? You cannot prove a negative, Pedro, just because you say so...
          Bringing Geology back to Christ!

          I believe Dr. Hovind to be completely innocent of the alleged crime of "tax evasion", and furthermore believe Hovind's 10 year sentence to be patently unjust and based upon an effort to silence his ministry.

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          • Dr. Otto Bond Sr.
            Away on vacation, or very possibly deceased
            BANNED from Landover -- Aeternal Damnation Assured
            • Feb 2008
            • 177

            #6
            Re: Angelic ancestors

            So Pedro, you decided to crawl out from under your rock just to persecute me? I'm honored. Praise Jesus that He counted me worthy to suffer in His name! See, sinner! Everything that you intend for evil is just storing up goodies for me in Heaven. Beaten at your own game. Ha!

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            • Dr. Santiago Solo
              On Permanent Assignment in Peru
              Forum Member
              • Dec 2007
              • 860

              #7
              Re: Angelic ancestors

              Originally posted by Dr. Otto Bond Sr. View Post
              I read in Genesis 6 that angels (the Sons of God) once "co-habitated" with human women and had children (called Nephilim). Does this mean that some people can trace their geneology back to an angel?
              That's a matter for debate, Brother, for most people of that time were killed during the flood, and since we know Noah's genealogy, and we all come from Noah, the only chance would be that his wife or his sons' wives would descend from said angels...
              Bringing Geology back to Christ!

              I believe Dr. Hovind to be completely innocent of the alleged crime of "tax evasion", and furthermore believe Hovind's 10 year sentence to be patently unjust and based upon an effort to silence his ministry.

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              • Brother V
                True Christian™ Nitric Oxide
                True Christian™
                • Sep 2006
                • 3481

                #8
                Re: Angelic ancestors

                Originally posted by SanzSolo View Post
                That's a matter for debate, Brother, for most people of that time were killed during the flood, and since we know Noah's genealogy, and we all come from Noah, the only chance would be that his wife or his sons' wives would descend from said angels...
                Brother, the Nephilim all died in the flood. Some people claim that it was because of them that the LORD sent the flood.

                Noah's offspring (and all mankind for that matter) were pure blooded human.

                How do we know that Noah was a pure human, check the bible (KJV1611).

                Genesis 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

                So we see the "sons of God" came in unto *snicker* the daughters of men. There is no mention of "daughters of God" being came in unto'ed by sons of men. We also see that their children were only men, mighty men, men of renown.

                So this brings us back to Noah.

                Genesis 5 lists Noah's lineage.

                Adam, Seth, Enos, Cainan, Mahalaleel, Jared, Enoch, Methuselah, Lamech, Noah.

                So, we start with Adam, and go to Noah. All boys. Since we learned that the "sons of God" only came in unto the pretty girls, we know that Noah was pure and not of angelic descent.

                PRAISE JESUS
                YIC
                V
                Judges 9:21 And Jotham ran away, and fled, and went to Beer, and dwelt there, for fear of Abimelech his brother.

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                • Peter
                  Confirmed Enemy of God
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 279

                  #9
                  Re: Angelic ancestors

                  Originally posted by SanzSolo View Post
                  The lack of evidence does not mean the evidence of lack, Pedro... or will you say that because you don't have any pictures of your great-great-great grandfather, or fossils, or his footprint in your head, he didn't exist? You cannot prove a negative, Pedro, just because you say so...
                  There are lots and lots of people(actually, almost the entire world, eccept for some remains of Retardville) who share my opinion, none of them have ever seen proof of angels, even you haven't seen it.

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                  • Dr. Santiago Solo
                    On Permanent Assignment in Peru
                    Forum Member
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 860

                    #10
                    Re: Angelic ancestors

                    Originally posted by Peter View Post
                    There are lots and lots of people(actually, almost the entire world, eccept for some remains of Retardville) who share my opinion, none of them have ever seen proof of angels, even you haven't seen it.
                    The fact that I don't see proof of it doesn't mean it doesn't exist, you can't prove a negative, get it in your small, puny, chocolate-filled brain.
                    Bringing Geology back to Christ!

                    I believe Dr. Hovind to be completely innocent of the alleged crime of "tax evasion", and furthermore believe Hovind's 10 year sentence to be patently unjust and based upon an effort to silence his ministry.

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                    • Peter
                      Confirmed Enemy of God
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 279

                      #11
                      Re: Angelic ancestors

                      Originally posted by SanzSolo View Post
                      The fact that I don't see proof of it doesn't mean it doesn't exist, you can't prove a negative, get it in your small, puny, chocolate-filled brain.
                      You're always asking for proof, and now you say that it isn't necessary??
                      Contradiction alert Contradiction alert Contradiction alert Contradiction alert Contradiction alert Contradiction alert Contradiction alert Contradiction alert

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                      • Dr. Santiago Solo
                        On Permanent Assignment in Peru
                        Forum Member
                        • Dec 2007
                        • 860

                        #12
                        Re: Angelic ancestors

                        Originally posted by Peter View Post
                        You're always asking for proof, and now you say that it isn't necessary??
                        Contradiction alert Contradiction alert Contradiction alert Contradiction alert Contradiction alert Contradiction alert Contradiction alert Contradiction alert
                        Please stop posting allegories to your homersexurality in this Godly forum with your rainbow posts, I am just saying that you can't possibly prove that something doesn't exist, you can only prove something exists by showing the evidence it exists, you get it, or I have to type slower? And of course I have evidence God exists, I have the unblemished, 100% accurate KJV Bible.
                        Bringing Geology back to Christ!

                        I believe Dr. Hovind to be completely innocent of the alleged crime of "tax evasion", and furthermore believe Hovind's 10 year sentence to be patently unjust and based upon an effort to silence his ministry.

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                        • Peter
                          Confirmed Enemy of God
                          • Feb 2007
                          • 279

                          #13
                          Re: Angelic ancestors

                          Originally posted by SanzSolo View Post
                          Please stop posting allegories to your homersexurality in this Godly forum with your rainbow posts, I am just saying that you can't possibly prove that something doesn't exist, you can only prove something exists by showing the evidence it exists, you get it, or I have to type slower? And of course I have evidence God exists, I have the unblemished, 100% accurate KJV Bible.
                          If accurate is a synonym for bullcrap. The bible isn't meant to be believed litterally, the writers of it , the disciples and the Jews( the old testament is Jewish!!), wrote it because they wanted to spread some sort of moral. To use your logic, you can't disprove science.

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                          • Ezekiel Bathfire
                            Pastor for Diversity and Tolerance
                            Christ's Rottweiler
                             
                            • Jan 2008
                            • 22889

                            #14
                            Re: Angelic ancestors

                            Originally posted by Peter View Post
                            You're always asking for proof, and now you say that it isn't necessary??
                            Contradiction alert Contradiction alert Contradiction alert Contradiction alert Contradiction alert Contradiction alert Contradiction alert Contradiction alert
                            The following is written by C.H.Spurgeon, probably the greatest Baptist Pastor until the coming of Pastor Deacon Fred:
                            The first time our young dog heard the thunder it startled him. He leaped up, gazed around in anger, and then began to bark at the disturber of his peace. When the next crash came he grew furious, and flew round the room, seeking to tear in pieces the intruder who dared thus to defy him. It was an odd scene. The yelping of a dog pitted against the artillery of heaven! Poor foolish creature, to think that his bark could silence the thunder-clap, or intimidate the tempest! What was he like? His imitators are not far to seek. Among us at this particular juncture there are men of an exceedingly doggish breed who go about howling at their Maker. They endeavour to bark the Almighty out of existence, to silence the voice of his gospel, and to let him know that their rest is not to be disturbed by his warnings. We need not particularize; the creatures are often heard, and are very fond of public note, even when it takes an unfriendly form. Let them alone. They present a pitiful spectacle. We could smile at them if we did not feel much more compelled to weep. The elements of a tragedy are wrapt up in this comedy. To-day they defy their Maker, but to-morrow they may be crushed beneath his righteous indignation.

                            At any rate, the idea of fearing them must never occur to us; their loudest noise is vocalized folly; their malice is impotent, their fury is mere fume. "He that sitteth in the heavens doth laugh: the Lord doth have them in derision.*"—C. H. S. by C. H. Spurgeon, From the August 1883 Sword and Trowel
                            *Psalms:2:4

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                            Map of the Known World; Periodic Table of Elements; The History of Linguistics; The Errors of Wicca; Dolphins and Evolution; The History of Landover (The Apology); Landover and the Civil War; 2000 Racial Slurs.

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                            • Peter
                              Confirmed Enemy of God
                              • Feb 2007
                              • 279

                              #15
                              Re: Angelic ancestors

                              Originally posted by Ezekiel Bathfire View Post
                              The following is written by C.H.Spurgeon, probably the lamest Craptist spastor until the coming of spastor Deacon Fred:*Psalms:2:4

                              Do you get the message? that you shouldn't do doggystyle?
                              You shouldn't quote nonsense, it isn't good for you. Do something with your life and don't worship someone who doesn't exist. I can give you two oneliners who illustrate how you should live your life: "Carpe diem" and "hic et nunc".

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