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  • #31
    Re: What the Bible says about psychology, psychiatry, madness, and insanity

    Originally posted by handmaiden View Post
    Originally posted by Didymus Much View Post
    But we MIGHT. And we're getting closer every day (because we're trying).


    If you think infinite turtles is a concept that deserves equal time (or anything but mockery, derision, scorn, and contempt) just because "oh, it can't be disproven", then please kill your self. The rest of us on this planet would be better off without you.
    Now, now, Mr. Much! Must I peel the carrot at you?* If you want to defend and even encourage your death-style, please continue to do so indirectly. Advising people to committ self-murder is not something we like to see here at Landover Baptist Church...
    I have no interest in seeing this (or any other) user self-harm. Like your "peeling the carrot", that was an "I pick my nose and fling the contents" at her attitude that somehow her delusions are more worthy than yours, when both are based on ignorance and fear (due to that ignorance). Oh, and her user name, because that's what it means.

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    • #32
      Re: What the Bible says about psychology, psychiatry, madness, and insanity

      Originally posted by Didymus Much View Post
      I have no interest in seeing this (or any other) user self-harm. Like your "peeling the carrot", that was an "I pick my nose and fling the contents" at her attitude that somehow her delusions are more worthy than yours, when both are based on ignorance and fear (due to that ignorance). Oh, and her user name, because that's what it means.
      Oh, dear! That's what her username means?! I had no idea. (Seriously, I didn't.)


      Well, in that case, thank you so much for educating me in this instance.* I suppose that is one of the reasons why we keep you around--aside for your excellent grammar use, of course. I shall continue praying for you.


      * Imagine! Useful information from a non-biblical source, and from an atheist, no less. If that doesn't just flip my flapjacks.
      His left hand should be under my head, and his right hand should embrace me.

      Guns For God and the Economy

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      • #33
        Re: What the Bible says about psychology, psychiatry, madness, and insanity

        I know admins have a lot of things to do (I am finding very difficult to find the time to come here and correct heathens, because I am praying without ceasing) but this talk between a lot of atheists has to stop, or at least wait until they reach Hell.


        Originally posted by PleaseKYS View Post
        (I am from Norway).
        So pack your bags and go to America, Donald is waiting for you. And most of the time, what Donald wants is what God wants.
        1 Thessalonians 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the TRUMP of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first.

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        • #34
          Re: What the Bible says about psychology, psychiatry, madness, and insanity

          Originally posted by Dolores de Barriga View Post


          You are aware that Cain killed his vegetarian brother...

          I can see peas, tumors and lumps of mud in the upper picture, and warty lumps of mud in the lower. Is that what people in your country eat?

          Lumps of mud is what God made Adam out of - but there seems to be no connection to that and your picture...

          My selfless prayer is
          "Dear Lord, bless these people and bring them to Your Light."
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          “We must reassert that the essence of Christianity is the love of obedience to God’s Laws and that how that complete obedience is used or implemented does not concern us.”

          Author of such illuminating essays as,
          Map of the Known World; Periodic Table of Elements; The History of Linguistics; The Errors of Wicca; Dolphins and Evolution; The History of Landover (The Apology); Landover and the Civil War; 2000 Racial Slurs.

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          • #35
            Re: What the Bible says about psychology, psychiatry, madness, and insanity

            Originally posted by legs akimbo View Post
            You have a good point and I have to be honest here and say I am not sure if I can reply to that point, but I will see later if I come up with something....mabye the creators died before earth's creation..I believe so because life is complicated.
            So in reverse order, "the creators" created more than just the earth. Genesis 1:1 tells us that The Heaven was also created and the location of this creative effort, The Beginning, is also listed. Prior to that there would be no time for beginnings to exist in. Therefore no "creators" could expire "before" the earth was created because the earth postdates The Beginning which would also need to have been created.

            The Bible explains this on page 1; forget about the letters K and Y: try R, E, S, E, A, R, C and H instead. Works for me. If this seems a little too assertive it's no more than a response to your rather direct points AND there's no problem backing this up as in fact I already did:

            Originally Posted in my earlier post
            The faith of these atheists agogs me.

            Originally posted by VeryKindAtheist View Post
            • Atheism is not a religion.
            • There are multiple forms of Atheism.
            • I am an Agnostic Atheist

            There is no such thing as an agnostic atheist. That's like saying a French Martian or non-ferrous iron. There is only one form of atheism. Perhaps there may be different types of agnosticism but the expression "atheism" is quite specific. Either you're an atheist or you're not. Either you're Martian or French. An ingot either contains iron or not. Accepting all the mutually exclusive positions involved in agnosticism–or gnosticism for that matter, atheism, satanism and the rejection of Salvation with the possibility of later accepting that Salvation is possible and accepting it simmering away somewhere must produce one bizarre aura. Which brings me to the book.


            . . .Quote:
            . . .
            .when people try to convert us through comments and a book of lies then we get very mad.


            I think you'll find you were mad to start with. Unless you prefer Foucault's definition of madness. In which case you were not rational. I have no idea why you'd start channelling Aleister Crowley, whose idiotic belief system requires almost so great a suspension of disbelief as atheism (perhaps that's what you mean by agnostic?) but really..

            Existence with no community and no meetings up can hardly be called a way of life, more like its antithesis. Even if it were true, which it isn't. I will append some pictures.

            You refer to Jesus. How does giving His life save us? To understand that you would need to understand God's Just Law which is spelled out in that very Old Testament.





            We've reached the colour section now. Firstly:
            .Atheism is a way of life and not a religion.
            .We have no communities that we meet up.






            Secondly:
            .We have no religious text.






            Thirdly:
            .We have no churches.



            Because this section is pictorial I won't elaborate; the pictures are self explanatory.

            Link to Foucault's Madness and Civilization: A History of Insanity in the Age of Reason where you can browse some more "non-existent" atheist scripture (v.i.)
            We are aware of the history of the perspective you're advancing. Well, not advancing. But we know its history. It's not my intention to hijack someone else's book so here are two short excerpts from pp.94-95 and pp.65-68 giving a brief overview.
            Madness&Civilization-Foucault1965tr.pdf

            I hope this is helpful for you; we are happy that you are seeking Jesus through whom insanities are resolved and encourage you to examine life frankly so that it becomes liveable once more.

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            • #36
              Re: What the Bible says about psychology, psychiatry, madness, and insanity

              Brothers and Sisters of ,

              the poor soul who has attempted to engage our community in the debate of the existance of deities outside of The One True God(r) whom the Bible proclaims, (who is also Three Distinct Personalities with different responsibilities and manner of manifestations) has written many words.


              Some of these words have been clumped into proper sentences. (a feat that I feel deserves some recognition given the usual skill-set of our visitors)


              Alas, this person has essentially splashed the digital pages of our on-line community with this:


              His left hand should be under my head, and his right hand should embrace me.

              Guns For God and the Economy

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              • #37
                Re: What the Bible says about psychology, psychiatry, madness, and insanity

                Originally posted by Ezekiel Bathfire View Post
                Demons. The answer's 'demons" They're everywhere. Waiting for a crack in your Armor of God.

                Homers, wayward women, disobedient kids, atheists, Catholics, Nigras, socialists, lunatics, the blind, deaf and dumb, the lame, etc., they all chose to take off that Armor - and look what happens - a demon grips the soul!
                Today we see that nowhere more clearly than in the depths of the so-called "Trans-Rights" movement. These people have been so overtaken by hoards of demons they routinely use "they" and "them" for pronouns. And well they should, as their minds have been taken over with so many demons they no longer know whether they should sit or stand to take a piss anymore.
                Hello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.

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                • #38
                  Re: What the Bible says about psychology, psychiatry, madness, and insanity

                  Psychiatrists say that demons and devils do not exist. Satan approves of that, even if they hold the modified view that whatever causes a "symptom" (convulsions, say) has a cause and whether you call it "brain lesions" or "demons" is immaterial, the idea being that a modern medical term (convulsion) and its first century counterpart (devil) are synonyms.

                  But if this were so, Wouldn't Jesus have corrected the misunderstanding? For example He could have said, "Oh no, this person is not demon possessed because there's no such thing as demons; the real problem is an electrolyte imbalance which I will now correct." There are certainly occasions when Jesus did correct the disciples with information they hadn't understood. Here's two:


                  1. The disciples mistakenly thought that a blind beggar had been so reduced, sitting there begging and enduring whatever beggars endured for his entire life till then, because either A] he had sinned or B] his parents had sinned. They were wrong. Other factors beyond their ken existed. Did Jesus think to Himself, "Well, they don't understand the situation due to insufficient knowledge so I'll just play along; after all in a few minutes the beggar won't be blind any more?" No. This wretched life, the ignominy of his affliction, the unmitigated anguish day after day after day was in fact glorious.

                  John 9: 1-3 And as Jesus passed by, he saw a man which was blind from his birth. And his disciples asked him, saying, Master, who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was born blind? Jesus.answered,.Neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents: but that the works of God should be made manifest in him.


                  • • • •


                  2. Here a demon-possessed child has quite specific "symptoms" described as i) dumbness ii) being torn iii) foaming iv) gnashing v) falling down vi) wallowing vii) jumping into fires viii) trying to drown himself ix) pining away and x) deafness. The disciples had correctly identified the cause, demon possession, but foolishly attempted the wrong type of exorcism. Perhaps out of ignorance, yes, but Jesus did not allow their ignorance to persist.

                  Mark 9: 25-29 When Jesus saw that the people came running together, he rebuked the foul spirit, saying unto him, Thou dumb and deaf spirit, I charge thee, come out of him, and enter no more into him. And the spirit cried, and rent him sore, and came out of him: and he was as one dead; insomuch that many said, He is dead. But Jesus took him by the hand, and lifted him up; and he arose. And when he was come into the house, his disciples asked him privately, Why could not we cast him out? And he said unto them, This.kind can come forth by nothing, but by prayer and fasting.



                  Nerve specialists would have a field day making up syndromes to describe those two cases. The limitations of knowledge back then was not allowed to stand however and Jesus corrected the disciples giving them new and important information. Elsewhere in The Bible a distinction is drawn between disease, torment, possession with devils, lunacy and the palsy. It is not the case that "everything was demons attaching themselves because nobody knew any better," as modern psychiatry would have us believe and when Jesus encountered ignorance He provided additional information. Nothing He explained however concurs with anything proposed by psychiatrists.

                  Only by reading The Bible can The Truth be understood about Christ and insanity, since if He made everything, when something breaks He'd know how to fix it.

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                  • #39
                    Re: What the Bible says about psychology, psychiatry, madness, and insanity

                    Originally posted by MitzaLizalor View Post

                    Only by reading The Bible can The Truth be understood about Christ and insanity, since if He made everything, when something breaks He'd know how to fix it.
                    So logical, Sister Mitza. An example of that is the Wright Brothers. They built the first airplane. To get it adjusted just right and to learn how to fly it they crashed over and over again.

                    Because they had designed and built it they knew how to get it flying after each crash. That is how God knows how the fix broken minds. Psychologists and psychiatrists did not design and build the mind. Therefore they don't know how to fix it.

                    Someone whose brain has gone haywire just needs to pray, "God, please fix me."
                    Isaiah 24:1-3 Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty (2)...as the taker of usury, so with the giver of usury to him. (3) The land shall be utterly emptied, and utterly spoiled: for the LORD hath spoken his word.

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                    • #40
                      Re: What the Bible says about psychology, psychiatry, madness, and insanity

                      Originally posted by Johny Joe Hold View Post
                      Someone whose brain has gone haywire just needs to pray, "God, please fix me."
                      Naturally, under the supervision of a senior Pastor. Can't have nutjobs roaming around "seeing the Truth" or whatever they do
                      If I have seen further, it is by standing on the heads of others.

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