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  • Zechariah Smyth
    Walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless.
    True Christian™
    • Feb 2011
    • 15251

    #16
    Re: Second Law of Thermodynamics Disproves Evilution

    Originally posted by {Anna} View Post
    Second law of thermodynamics could be applies only if
    Earth is was closed isolated system
    But it isn't
    "Large external energy source" as you called it is the Sun
    Last time I checked, I didn't see any extension cords going up to the sun.

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    • Dr Laurence Niles
      Psychotheological Analyst Therapist
       
      • Jan 2012
      • 9063

      #17
      Re: Second Law of Thermodynamics Disproves Evilution

      Originally posted by {Anna} View Post
      Second law of thermodynamics could be applies only if
      Earth is was closed isolated system
      But it isn't
      "Large external energy source" as you called it is the Sun
      Let's think about this shall we?

      If all of creation is a closed system the what is the energy source? Unless you fancy going down the route of infinite regression you have to logically conclude God.

      Next?

      YIC
      1 Corinthians 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

      Revelation 22:15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

      Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

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      • {Anna}
        Unsaved Trash, repulsive eurotrash whore
        • Jan 2013
        • 264

        #18
        Re: Second Law of Thermodynamics Disproves Evilution

        Originally posted by Zechariah Smyth View Post
        Last time I checked, I didn't see any extension cords going up to the sun.


        Energy from Sun comes from via sunlight
        created in its core by nuclear fusion
        Solar energy
        Psalm 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done
        abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

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        • Redeemed Papist
          Former Mary Hailer who has seen The Light(c)
          True Christian™
          • Jul 2011
          • 10409

          #19
          Re: Second Law of Thermodynamics Disproves Evilution

          Originally posted by {Anna} View Post
          Yes they do
          And I fail to see point of this post
          The Sun is that what you call "large external energy source"
          The sun is part of the earth and firmament. It's inside the firmament. How is that external? Maybe you don't understand words.
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          Isaiah 34:6 The sword of the LORD is filled with blood, it is made fat with fatness, and with the blood of lambs and goats, with the fat of the kidneys of rams: for the LORD hath a sacrifice in Bozrah, and a great slaughter in the land of Idumea.

          John 5:46,47 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me. But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

          Join me in scoffing at backwards Muslims clinging to their beliefs in the face of the evidence!
          The truth about volcanos
          Sex and debauchery in public schools
          Faith wins over science (explained for even the very stupid)
          God Cures AIDS - GLORY!
          Desert whale bones prove Great Flood once and for all.

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          • {Anna}
            Unsaved Trash, repulsive eurotrash whore
            • Jan 2013
            • 264

            #20
            Re: Second Law of Thermodynamics Disproves Evilution

            Originally posted by Redeemed Papist View Post
            The sun is part of the earth and firmament. It's inside the firmament. How is that external? Maybe you don't understand words.
            Really
            What do you think Sun revolves Earth
            And did you look at links?
            Psalm 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done
            abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

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            • Redeemed Papist
              Former Mary Hailer who has seen The Light(c)
              True Christian™
              • Jul 2011
              • 10409

              #21
              Re: Second Law of Thermodynamics Disproves Evilution

              Originally posted by {Anna} View Post
              Really
              What do you think Sun revolves Earth
              And did you look at links?
              You don't see the sun move across the sky? It doesn't move fast. You have to look away for a bit then look back. Surely you notice it rise in the morning and set in the evening on the other edge of the earth...
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              Isaiah 34:6 The sword of the LORD is filled with blood, it is made fat with fatness, and with the blood of lambs and goats, with the fat of the kidneys of rams: for the LORD hath a sacrifice in Bozrah, and a great slaughter in the land of Idumea.

              John 5:46,47 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me. But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

              Join me in scoffing at backwards Muslims clinging to their beliefs in the face of the evidence!
              The truth about volcanos
              Sex and debauchery in public schools
              Faith wins over science (explained for even the very stupid)
              God Cures AIDS - GLORY!
              Desert whale bones prove Great Flood once and for all.

              Comment

              • {Anna}
                Unsaved Trash, repulsive eurotrash whore
                • Jan 2013
                • 264

                #22
                Re: Second Law of Thermodynamics Disproves Evilution

                Originally posted by Redeemed Papist View Post
                You don't see the sun move across the sky? It doesn't move fast. You have to look away for a bit then look back. Surely you notice it rise in the morning and set in the evening on the other edge of the earth...
                OK
                Earth is spherical
                It rotates araoud Sun and around its axis
                As Earth rotates around its axis to us it seams that
                Sun rotates but it is standing
                Psalm 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done
                abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

                Comment

                • Redeemed Papist
                  Former Mary Hailer who has seen The Light(c)
                  True Christian™
                  • Jul 2011
                  • 10409

                  #23
                  Re: Second Law of Thermodynamics Disproves Evilution

                  Originally posted by {Anna} View Post
                  OK
                  Earth is spherical
                  It rotates araoud Sun and around its axis
                  As Earth rotates around its axis to us it seams that
                  Sun rotates but it is standing
                  So you say...
                  God says different
                  There is conflict
                  So I'm going to believe God
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                  Isaiah 34:6 The sword of the LORD is filled with blood, it is made fat with fatness, and with the blood of lambs and goats, with the fat of the kidneys of rams: for the LORD hath a sacrifice in Bozrah, and a great slaughter in the land of Idumea.

                  John 5:46,47 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me. But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

                  Join me in scoffing at backwards Muslims clinging to their beliefs in the face of the evidence!
                  The truth about volcanos
                  Sex and debauchery in public schools
                  Faith wins over science (explained for even the very stupid)
                  God Cures AIDS - GLORY!
                  Desert whale bones prove Great Flood once and for all.

                  Comment

                  • {Anna}
                    Unsaved Trash, repulsive eurotrash whore
                    • Jan 2013
                    • 264

                    #24
                    Re: Second Law of Thermodynamics Disproves Evilution

                    Originally posted by Redeemed Papist View Post
                    So you say...
                    God says different
                    There is conflict
                    So I'm going to believe God
                    Your decision
                    But think about this
                    You could stop "believing" in gravity
                    Apple will still fall
                    Psalm 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done
                    abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

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                    • Redeemed Papist
                      Former Mary Hailer who has seen The Light(c)
                      True Christian™
                      • Jul 2011
                      • 10409

                      #25
                      Re: Second Law of Thermodynamics Disproves Evilution

                      Originally posted by {Anna} View Post
                      Your decision
                      But think about this
                      You could stop "believing" in gravity
                      Apple will still fall
                      Of course apples fall. They still fell before some fool made up a word and did some sums to try to prove God's description of the earth and firmament wrong.

                      But God's still here even if you stop believing in Him.
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                      Isaiah 34:6 The sword of the LORD is filled with blood, it is made fat with fatness, and with the blood of lambs and goats, with the fat of the kidneys of rams: for the LORD hath a sacrifice in Bozrah, and a great slaughter in the land of Idumea.

                      John 5:46,47 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me. But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

                      Join me in scoffing at backwards Muslims clinging to their beliefs in the face of the evidence!
                      The truth about volcanos
                      Sex and debauchery in public schools
                      Faith wins over science (explained for even the very stupid)
                      God Cures AIDS - GLORY!
                      Desert whale bones prove Great Flood once and for all.

                      Comment

                      • {Anna}
                        Unsaved Trash, repulsive eurotrash whore
                        • Jan 2013
                        • 264

                        #26
                        Re: Second Law of Thermodynamics Disproves Evilution

                        Originally posted by Redeemed Papist View Post
                        Of course apples fall. They still fell before some fool made up a word and did some sums to try to prove God's description of the earth and firmament wrong.

                        But God's still here even if you stop believing in Him.
                        OK
                        Explain this
                        How come that on one side of Earth
                        is night while on opozite side is day(in same time)
                        For example while in New York is day in Tokyo is night?
                        And how cant we see same stars from northern hemisphere
                        as sean from sought hemisphere?
                        Psalm 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done
                        abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

                        Comment

                        • Redeemed Papist
                          Former Mary Hailer who has seen The Light(c)
                          True Christian™
                          • Jul 2011
                          • 10409

                          #27
                          Re: Second Law of Thermodynamics Disproves Evilution

                          Originally posted by {Anna} View Post
                          OK
                          Explain this
                          How come that on one side of Earth
                          is night while on opozite side is day(in same time)
                          For example while in New York is day in Tokyo is night?
                          And how cant we see same stars from northern hemisphere
                          as sean from sought hemisphere?
                          Are you aware of the argument from ignorance fallacy? Just because I can't explain some sort of made up fact you assert doesn't mean your explanation is by default correct.

                          God, meanwhile, can see what you are trying to do to my immortal soul and He hates it.
                          1 Timothy 6:20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:

                          Colossians 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
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                          Isaiah 34:6 The sword of the LORD is filled with blood, it is made fat with fatness, and with the blood of lambs and goats, with the fat of the kidneys of rams: for the LORD hath a sacrifice in Bozrah, and a great slaughter in the land of Idumea.

                          John 5:46,47 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me. But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

                          Join me in scoffing at backwards Muslims clinging to their beliefs in the face of the evidence!
                          The truth about volcanos
                          Sex and debauchery in public schools
                          Faith wins over science (explained for even the very stupid)
                          God Cures AIDS - GLORY!
                          Desert whale bones prove Great Flood once and for all.

                          Comment

                          • {Anna}
                            Unsaved Trash, repulsive eurotrash whore
                            • Jan 2013
                            • 264

                            #28
                            Re: Second Law of Thermodynamics Disproves Evilution

                            Originally posted by Redeemed Papist View Post
                            Are you aware of the argument from ignorance fallacy? Just because I can't explain some sort of made up fact you assert doesn't mean your explanation is by default correct.

                            God, meanwhile, can see what you are trying to do to my immortal soul and He hates it.
                            1 Timothy 6:20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:

                            Colossians 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

                            So you have no answer
                            I suggest some research
                            Here you can start here
                            Sun
                            Earth
                            Earth rotation
                            Daylight
                            If you still believe in flat Earth hypostasis
                            Then there is no point in presenting prof to you
                            Psalm 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done
                            abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

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                            • Jedediah
                              True Christian™ Creation Scientist
                              Fisher of Men
                              True Christian™
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 6824

                              #29
                              Re: Second Law of Thermodynamics Disproves Evilution

                              Originally posted by {Anna} View Post

                              Energy from Sun comes from via sunlight
                              created in its core by nuclear fusion
                              Solar energy
                              Can you back any of that up with Scripture?

                              I stopped reading when that article started throwing out phony numbers. Their estimates are way off, and I'm simply not so credulous as to believe any of it. We know that the sun is roughly 500 miles overhead, not "149.6 million kilometers," well within the firmament. Further, we know that the sun is a huge lump of coal (carbon), unlike stars, which are most likely diamonds. None of this nucular baloney is required. I suggest you look up Occam's Razor. But all this is moot since the sun, stars, moon, and earth are all contained within the firmament - a closed system.

                              The Second Law of Thermodynamics is clearly too complex for your feeble female brain to comprehend, and you will grasp at any straw to continue denying the Biblical account of Creation since you are repulsed by righteousness and hopelessly addicted to your life of sin.
                              II Thessalonians 1:7-9
                              And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
                              In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
                              Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power



                              The man who is being progressively sanctified will inescapably sanctify his home, school, politics, economics, science, and all things else by understanding and interpreting all things in terms of the Word of God and by bringing all things under the Dominion of Christ the King. -R.J. Rushdoony

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                              • Tool of satan
                                Unsaved Trash, degenerate godmocker
                                • Jan 2013
                                • 197

                                #30
                                Re: Second Law of Thermodynamics Disproves Evilution

                                Originally posted by Pim Pendergast View Post
                                Scientists already know about the sun. Besides, we know that since evolution isn't true, this "large external energy source" doesn't exist.
                                Scientists believe the sun is the "large external energy source" even if you don't.Your logic basically states that evolution isn't true, so the sun doesn't exist.

                                Now looking at this from another perspective, you could be saying that "evolution isn't true, so the sun isn't a large external energy source, and there's no such thing. Which would also be a large gap.

                                Simply put, it's a fallacy. Very interesting how you see this in others but not in yourself. Or maybe it's a consequence of not being able to think rationally.

                                Your best bet is to go with "the sun is not a large external energy source, and there is none, therefore evolution cannot happen." Which would lead back to the question of whether the sun is a large external energy source, which scientists maintain it is and you do not.

                                So no, thermodynamics still does not disprove evolution, because you have to look at this from a scientific perspective to disprove it to anyone who believes in evolution.

                                Anyways, wouldn't you consider the "large external energy source" to be God?
                                1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
                                23:Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.

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