[Pim Pendergast]

Re: I Don't Understand Evolutionists

Pim, the quotes you used are not in my Bible. In my Bible, it mentions that disobedient children and adulterers should be punished, not murdered and gays are considered to be distasteful.

Which (per)version of the Bible do you have?

Lev 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Deut 21:18-21
18 If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them: 19 Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place; 20 And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. 21 And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.

Lev 20:10 And the man that committeth adultery with another man’s wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbour’s wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.

Many modern translations try to smooth over the unpopular and "politically incorrect" parts of the Bible, but the translators of the KJV made no such effort. The koran plagiarized bits of the Bible, and so you can still find a corrupted version of God's law practised throughout much of the Middle East, where it is common for adulterous women to be stoned and homosexuals to be executed.

You say you're an atheist who follows the moral teaching of the Bible, but if you can't accept that homosexauls, disobedient children and adulterers should be put to death, then you clearly don't accept the moral teaching of the Bible. You're just an atheist. You live as if God doesn't exist, as if you're unaccountable to Him. You make up your own morality.

[ScienceHater]

Re: I Don't Understand Evolutionists

Would you please read my posts and stop cherry picking. I used the shark thing as an example, which I said was hypothetical and it would probably never happen.

Evolution can happen over thousands of years through a few random mutations or millions due to adapting to a slightly changing environment. This is because of genetic variation due to meiosis.

I never said animals live thousands and millions of years. Their offspring change due to variation. The variation causes evolution over many generations. This can take thousands or millions of years.

God didn't say this thousands of years ago, so it didn't happen. Just because all of the stupid biologists believe this doesn't mean anything. They are probably all lying. They will all go to hell.

[ScienceHater]

Re: I Don't Understand Evolutionists

I said that it takes thousands and millions of years. Of course the dolphin will die because it can't survive on the land because it still needs to keep hydrated and it has been subjected to a rapid change in environment.
I don't use scripture to back up my posts because scripture is not meant to be taken literally.
Pim, the quotes you used are not in my Bible. In my Bible, it mentions that disobedient children and adulterers should be punished, not murdered and gays are considered to be distasteful.
Gays can do what ever the hell they want as long as they don't constantly talk about it and be disgusted by anything that isn't gay. It doesn't seem right to me but I'm sure my way of life may confuse other people so I need to just accept things like homosexuality.

Of course the Bible is literal. It says that insects and birds have four legs.
Lev 11:20-3
And they do. No observation can disprove the bible.

[IdiocyofMYUniverse]

Re: I Don't Understand Evolutionists

...No observation can disprove the bible.

Well, let's see:

• Distance of the sun
• Existence of other planets
• The Existence of the firmament
• Age of the Earth
• Evolution
• Space and the Universe

All these disprove the bible. Would you like me to carry on this list?

[Dr Laurence Niles]

Re: I Don't Understand Evolutionists

Well, let's see:

• Distance of the sun
• Existence of other planets
• The Existence of the firmament
• Age of the Earth
• Evolution
• Space and the Universe

All these disprove the bible. Would you like me to carry on this list?

Assertions are not evidence. You fail logic, 101.

YIC

[IdiocyofMYUniverse]

Re: I Don't Understand Evolutionists

Assertions are not evidence. You fail logic, 101.

These are not assertions. What you Christians claims are assertions. These things I've listed, proving most and disproving others (firmament), are observations, which are supported by evidence, something your religion has never heard of. These are facts. Evolution is a fact. The non-existence of the firmament is a fact. The distance of the Sun not being 500 miles away is a fact, all supported by evidence.

[James Hutchins]

Re: I Don't Understand Evolutionists

These are not assertions. What you Christians claims are assertions. These things I've listed, proving most and disproving others (firmament), are observations, which are supported by evidence, something your religion has never heard of. These are facts. Evolution is a fact. The non-existence of the firmament is a fact. The distance of the Sun not being 500 miles away is a fact, all supported by evidence.

No friend, you have not provided a single line of scripture to back up your outlandish claims. We know all about you fast talking snake charmers.

[IdiocyofMYUniverse]

Re: I Don't Understand Evolutionists

...you have not provided a single line of scripture to back up your outlandish claims.

Because the scripture isn't evidence. You have no evidence it's God word. You have no evidence it was written by him. You have no evidence the things that are written in the book are true. The Bible is full of outlandish claims.

[James Hutchins]

Re: I Don't Understand Evolutionists

Because the scripture isn't evidence. You have no evidence it's God word. You have no evidence it was written by him. You have no evidence the things that are written in the book are true. The Bible is full of outlandish claims.

Sure it is. Prove it is not.

Only a fool would say that God wrote the Bible. Everyone with half a brain knows that it was written by a slew of Ghost writes. How else could the Greatest Book Ever Written be transcribed onto paper.

It just irks you that one Magnificent Book explains everything and that everything is the result of one Entity. God. Jesus. The Holy Shost

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: I Don't Understand Evolutionists

Because the scripture isn't evidence. You have no evidence it's God word. You have no evidence it was written by him. You have no evidence the things that are written in the book are true. The Bible is full of outlandish claims.

So you don't consider written evidence to be evidence? Then what exactly is valid as evidence for you? Mime?

[IdiocyofMYUniverse]

Re: I Don't Understand Evolutionists

Prove it is not.

When two people have a disagreement of the existence of something, the person who is proposing the thing exist - he has the burden of Proof.

So you don't consider written evidence to be evidence?

If there is sufficient, positive evidence of observations, experimentation, testing etc. of the things that is written down in a book that would be better. However, the Bible has nothing of such evidence. It's only based on faith. You think it's okay to believe something on faith, but I don't, and evidently you're admitting that you cannot demonstrate the truth and reality of your God to anyone else.

[Dr Laurence Niles]

Re: I Don't Understand Evolutionists

When two people have a disagreement of the existence of something, the person who is proposing the thing exist - he has the burden of Proof.



If there is sufficient, positive evidence of observations, experimentation, testing etc. of the things that is written down in a book that would be better. However, the Bible has nothing of such evidence. It's only based on faith. You think it's okay to believe something on faith, but I don't, and evidently you're admitting that you cannot demonstrate the truth and reality of your God to anyone else.

Ridiculous. If a Christian landowner kills an illegal immigrant in self defence the he does not have to prove he is innocent. The government has to prove he is guilty.

The burden of proof is not for him to make his point: it is for the accusers to prove him wrong.

YIC

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: I Don't Understand Evolutionists

When two people have a disagreement of the existence of something, the person who is proposing the thing exist - he has the burden of Proof.

You claim God doesn't exist, so the burden of proof is on you.

[IdiocyofMYUniverse]

Re: I Don't Understand Evolutionists

Ridiculous. If a Christian landowner kills an illegal immigrant in self defence the he does not have to prove he is innocent. The government has to prove he is guilty.

The burden of proof is not for him to make his point: it is for the accusers to prove him wrong.

YIC

The state is the one making the claim that he has breached the law.

You claim God doesn't exist, so the burden of proof is on you.

It is impossible to prove that something imaginary does not exist. It's like trying to prove that unicorns don't exist. In order to prove something you have to be able to collect data, if you can't collect data there is nothing to prove. Let's take unicorns. I must be able to collect data about them if I was to prove they didn't exist, since I can't see them, smell them, collect poop or find any tracks that they leave I can't prove that they don't exists that is why religious people like you keep ignoring the fact that the burden of proof is on you. If I create an imaginary creature that I call Zezima, I can't ask you to prove to me that it does not exist since that would be impossible for you to accomplish. I would have to prove to you that it does exist, not the other way around. I can't ask you to take my word for it since you never have seen any of this creatures. Basically you are asking for an impossibility.

[James Hutchins]

Re: I Don't Understand Evolutionists

So you are saying you made it all up about God not existing, correct? You have ZERO proof. Finely, you are being honest!