[Alvin Moss]

Re: False Religions And Cults

May I remind you of Acts 7:51. You seem stiff necked.

[Blake Davis]

Re: False Religions And Cults

I will humor you a little. Matthew 4:19.


You will have to reason out the full implications. If you seek salvation, you have come to the right place. We want to guide you. If not, you are in the wrong place. This is not a debate forum. God's word is right and you are wrong.

Sir, how am I wrong when I am speaking from the scripture and backing what I say up with scripture.. Do you not see the absurdity in your own allegations. Please reason with me logically, since you do believe after all that you want to teach someone who you deem "Unsaved" although your webpage says that I am not welcome. Thus if I am unwelcome, 2John 1:9-11 says not to bid me Gods speed so why humor me??

[Blake Davis]

Re: False Religions And Cults

May I remind you of Acts 7:51. You seem stiff necked.

Paul must have been stiff necked too because of his statements of truth in Gal 4:16 right? or also because of his confidence he must be stiff necked by telling people he has fought a good fight and he has finished the race (2Tim 4:7)?

[Mary Etheldreda]

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Sir, how am I wrong when I am speaking from the scripture and backing what I say up with scripture.. Do you not see the absurdity in your own allegations. Please reason with me logically, since you do believe after all that you want to teach someone who you deem "Unsaved" although your webpage says that I am not welcome. Thus if I am unwelcome, 2John 1:9-11 says not to bid me Gods speed so why humor me??

One doesn't simply throw Scripture out like playing Scrabble, dear. Any two-bit numskull can google passages from the Holy Bible and find verses, but only those who walk the walk of the righteous understand God's Word. Brother Moss walks such a walk, dear, as he is a close, personal friend of Jesus. Say, why not give up this obsession with anger and fighting and come join us in praising Christ and all His Glory!

[Blake Davis]

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One doesn't simply throw Scripture out like playing Scrabble, dear. Any two-bit numskull can google passages from the Holy Bible and find verses, but only those who walk the walk of the righteous understand God's Word. Brother Moss walks such a walk, dear, as he is a close, personal friend of Jesus. Say, why not give up this obsession with anger and fighting and come join us in praising Christ and all His Glory!

Ma'am your judgement is on me now (two-bit numskull)? Wow the Bible to you is scrabble? I can't simply have people logically answer Biblical questions with scripture? Must be an amazing Christian atmosphere here?
Ma'am you must not logically think either, because you said that if you understand Gods words then you walk righteously. Must sound good to you that the devil walk righteously, simply because they believe am I correct (James 2:19)?

[Didymus Much]

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...And according to the "Baptist" teachings, you aren't allowed to judge me...

Much wrong.

...Sir according to Baptist doctrine, anyone has to accept Jesus as their personal Savior, sir I ask for that scripture. Also I ask for the scripture that teaches that all I have to do is believe to be saved...

Mark 16:16 "He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned."

[Blake Davis]

Re: False Religions And Cults

Much wrong.



Mark 16:16 "He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned."

Thank you so much... you have proved my two points exactly.. 1) Dont Judge (Jesus prohibits hypocritical judgement (Mat 7:1-6) and commands righteous (biblical/true) judgement (John 7:24). 2) Believe + 0 = Saved, is wrong because if so then the devils are saved (James 2:19), plus as pointed out Mark 16:16 commands Believe and Baptism for salvation (Romans 6:1-5; Galatians 3:27; 1Co. 12:13; 1Pe. 3:21) NOT Believe = saved then baptism. Also the bible commands repentance in order to be saved (not to perish; Luke 13:3; Acts 3:19). The bible also commands confessing that Jesus is the Son or you will not be confessed before the Father (AKA Saved; Matthew 10:32-34; Romans 10:10-14; Acts 8:36-40). So we add all those things up and you have to Believe (John 8:32) Repent (Luke 13:3;5) Confess (Matthew 10:32-33) and Be Baptized for the remission of sins (Acts 2:37-38; 1 Pe. 3:21; Mark 16:16; Matthew 28:18-20).

Thank you for seeing those points AND giving the scripture.

[Didymus Much]

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... you have proved my two points exactly.. 1) Dont Judge (Jesus prohibits hypocritical judgement (Mat 7:1-6) and commands righteous (biblical/true) judgement (John 7:24)...

The Bible DOES NOT say "don't judge". As you can see in the linked thread, there are many places in the Bible where True Christians(tm) are COMMANDED to judge.

...2) Believe + 0 = Saved, is wrong because if so then the devils are saved (James 2:19),...

Devils don't get baptized as believers, so Mark 16:16 doesn't apply to them.

...The bible also commands confessing that Jesus is the Son or you will not be confessed before the Father (AKA Saved; Matthew 10:32-34; Romans 10:10-14; Acts 8:36-40). So we add all those things up and you have to Believe (John 8:32) Repent (Luke 13:3;5) Confess (Matthew 10:32-33) and Be Baptized for the remission of sins (Acts 2:37-38; 1 Pe. 3:21; Mark 16:16; Matthew 28:18-20)...

Around here, repentance and confession are considered part of belief (you wouldn't have those without truly believing), thus not needing an asterisk on Mark 16:16 like you would have.

[Blake Davis]

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The Bible DOES NOT say "don't judge". As you can see in the linked thread, there are many places in the Bible where True Christians™ are COMMANDED to judge.



Devils don't get baptized as believers, so Mark 16:16 doesn't apply to them.



Around here, repentance and confession are considered part of belief (you wouldn't have those without truly believing), thus not needing an asterisk on Mark 16:16 like you would have.

We do not disagree about the 1st proposition and do some on the 3rd proposition. But what I mean by point 2 is that people say believe only, which is false because there isnt any scripture to back that up... If you read the New Testament entirely then one notices that the requirement is Believe unto (in the direction of) righteousness (Rom 10:9-10), then if you believe then you will repent and confess unto salvation so your sins CAN BE Blotted out (Ac 2:37-38; 3:19 ; Rom 10.9-10) and then you are baptized FOR (NOT BECAUSE OF) the remission of sins (Ac 2:38; 22:16; 1 Pe 3:21). What I meant by point 2 was that if belief is all then the devils will be saved because they do also believe (James 2:19).

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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Why is it that in all these people who are mentioned in the first post, that BAPTISTS are not one of them.... they Worship themselves and money right?

First of all, this is NOT a debate forum. We're right and you're wrong, according to Jesus and the Holy Word of God. Please read THIS thread before making an even bigger fool of yourself.

Secondly, while the internets might seem to be "free" to you, this particular corner of the internets is a privately owned Christian forum. The rights you have on this forum are listed HERE. Please contact a Pastor immediately if you feel that any of your rights have been violated.

Finally, your unsaved opinions or tantrums are not even slightly of interest to us. We follow the Holy Word of God TO THE LETTER, and make no apologies for that. One of the most important commandments in the Bible tells us to avoid unsaved scum such as yourself. You wandered in here uninvited, and unwelcome .

If you want to debate people, THIS is the place to go.

Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself.

I will pray that the Holy Spirit enter you and chase the demons out of your rectum and let Jesus fill you with His Grace. If you use your God-given free will to reject Christ and His temporary death on the cross for my sins, then you are sending yourself to hellfire.

[Truth619]

Re: False Religions And Cults

This post is just so idiotic i dont know if i should be mad or just laugh at the stupidity

[Elmer G. White]

Re: False Religions And Cults

This post is just so idiotic i dont know if i should be mad or just laugh at the stupidity

Dear Sinner,

Your post is a wonderful mixture of various argumentative fallacies. You seem to disagree with the post. If that is so, some actual arguments (and regarding that this is a Christian Forum, Scripture) would be welcome if you wanted your claims to be taken seriously. Let us see.

• Idiotic post? This a simple direct ad hominem accusing the author's capabilitites. Despite any potential intellectual restrictions, the actual content of a post may still be correct. Thus, a fallacy.
• Laugh? A typical ad ridiculum comment. Many things may be True™ and correct even if they make people laugh. Thus, a fallacy.
• Stupidity? We're back at ad hominem. Thus, a fallacy.
• You did not include the indirect ad hominem but we'll see if you persist.

Your post was a single sentence and it is quite an accomplishment to be able to insert three fallacies into it. In addition, you're referring to your personal feelings (being mad or laughing) instead of presenting evidence. Please, try again after some prayer and contemplation!

Proverbs 15:2
The tongue of the wise useth knowledge aright: but the mouth of fools poureth out foolishness.


Yours in Christ,

Elmer

[GoldenShower]

Re: False Religions And Cults

I don't worship monkeys or satan, I don't worship anything for that matter. All religions are false. But here are some questions for christians
Is Anne Frank burning in hell?

How about Mahatma Gandhi?

Is Fred Phelps in Heaven since he believed in the divinity of Jesus?

Should a killer who genuinely repents at the end of his life go to Heaven?

Should a kind-hearted atheist go to Hell for all eternity?

Do kind-hearted religious people who just aren’t Christian also deserve to burn?

Would you be happy in heaven if someone you loved was in Hell?

If your child were dying, and I hope that never happens, would you just pray for them or would you take them to a doctor?

And if you’d do both, which one do you think has more of an impact?

Whose prayers does God answer?

And if it’s ultimately His Will, why bother praying?

If you have cancer, what would help you more: Certain drugs, or prayer?

If you had an amputated limb, would prayer ever bring it back?

If you have an exam coming up, what would contribute more to a higher score: Prayer or more studying?

[Vessel of Christ]

Re: False Religions And Cults

How about Mahatma Gandhi?

Is Fred Phelps in Heaven since he believed in the divinity of Jesus?

Should a killer who genuinely repents at the end of his life go to Heaven?

Should a kind-hearted atheist go to Hell for all eternity?

Do kind-hearted religious people who just aren’t Christian also deserve to burn?

Would you be happy in heaven if someone you loved was in Hell?

If your child were dying, and I hope that never happens, would you just pray for them or would you take them to a doctor?

And if you’d do both, which one do you think has more of an impact?

Whose prayers does God answer?

And if it’s ultimately His Will, why bother praying?

If you have cancer, what would help you more: Certain drugs, or prayer?

If you had an amputated limb, would prayer ever bring it back?

If you have an exam coming up, what would contribute more to a higher score: Prayer or more studying?

Hey I have good news for you! Theres a book with the answer to every single question you have. Its called the Holy Bible. Every single question you have will be answered if you read it. Now stop bothering these nice Christian people with silly questions, and go read your Bible.

[Alvin Moss]

Re: False Religions And Cults

I don't worship monkeys or satan, I don't worship anything for that matter. All religions are false. But here are some questions for christians
Is Anne Frank burning in hell?

How about Mahatma Gandhi?

Is Fred Phelps in Heaven since he believed in the divinity of Jesus?

Should a killer who genuinely repents at the end of his life go to Heaven?

Should a kind-hearted atheist go to Hell for all eternity?

Do kind-hearted religious people who just aren’t Christian also deserve to burn?

Would you be happy in heaven if someone you loved was in Hell?

If your child were dying, and I hope that never happens, would you just pray for them or would you take them to a doctor?

And if you’d do both, which one do you think has more of an impact?

Whose prayers does God answer?

And if it’s ultimately His Will, why bother praying?

If you have cancer, what would help you more: Certain drugs, or prayer?

If you had an amputated limb, would prayer ever bring it back?

If you have an exam coming up, what would contribute more to a higher score: Prayer or more studying?

All of those questions are answered in the pages of the Holy Bible, which you must already be well aware of, having read the Bible yourself. Was it "cover to cover"? That's the description most of you people use. All of you self impressed, unsaved wretches come up with the same nonsense, ask the same questions, have the same smug know it all attitude and every one of you thinks he is the first to come up with their earth shaking reasoning. God hates you and I have noticed that most of the people that God really gets angry with get an early final interview. Was I you, I'd get right with Jesus and quick. It's that or Hell. Don't go there; it's too hot.