[Levi Jones]

Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God?

God has never left any physical evidence of his existence on earth and none of Jesus' "miracles" left any physical evidence either.

None, huh?

[Widows Son]

Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God?

God has never left any physical evidence of his existence on earth and none of Jesus' "miracles" left any physical evidence either.

Intelligent people believe in Him. That's a miracle.

[thewordofgod]

Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

I read the bible... not the version you mentioned, but it's an interesting book, but I never really understood exactly why some people take this for truth...
There are plenty of other religions, or interpretations of those religions (you guys are just a small part of christianity), so please explain to me why you are right and they are wrong.
Unfortunatly, the answer: "the Bible says so" is not enough. I know you are convinced that the Bible is the only truth available, but I'm afraid muslims say the exact same thing abouth the koran, and others think it's all the same, books written by people, nothing more. Why would you be right, and all the others wrong?

Note: This section was split off from Is Your Child a Goth, as the discussion merited its own space. -OYK

The Bible is NOT the word of God. The light of God is the Word and the power he needed to put his thoughts and plans into action. God's power spoke through his prophets who wrote the inspired words as a testimony to God.

This would be like an ex-President who has his secretary write the words for his biography. Does this mean you're the President if you read his words? Does it mean you will understand everything there is to be a President? Could you read this Presidential biography and be the President right after you finish the book?

In fact, the scriptures were only meant for the prophets, Jesus and us saints but sinners got their hands on them over 3,000 years ago and ever since then, they have deceived themselves of the true God.

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

The Bible is NOT the word of God.

Are you retarded? Why do you even have an opinion on the Bible while you clearly never even touched one?

2nd Timothy 3:16 "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness"

Deuteronomy 4:2 "Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you."

Revelation 22:18-19 "For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book."

Psalm 12:6-7 "The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever."

[AngelaT]

Question about Bible versions

I hope it's OK to post this question here, as I can't start threads yet except in Introductions, and it doesn't really belong there. I was raised Catholic, and now accept completely that Papist teaching is wrong. I was looking for information on the history of the King James Bible, and found this site.

http://www.greatsite.com/timeline-english-bible-history/

It's very interesting, but I found this bit puzzling.

The Anglican Church’s King James Bible took decades to overcome the more popular Protestant Church’s Geneva Bible. One of the greatest ironies of history, is that many Protestant Christian churches today embrace the King James Bible exclusively as the “only” legitimate English language translation… yet it is not even a Protestant translation! It was printed to compete with the Protestant Geneva Bible, by authorities who throughout most of history were hostile to Protestants… and killed them.

Can someone please set me straight on this? Is this site just plain wrong, or am I misunderstanding something?

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: Question about Bible versions

Can someone please set me straight on this? Is this site just plain wrong, or am I misunderstanding something?

It's very simple. The KJV1611 Holy Bible is the only relevant one. All other Bibles are to be ignored.

Seven easy ways to tell the True Bible from the false ones.

[nquinton]

Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

I read the bible... not the version you mentioned, but it's an interesting book, but I never really understood exactly why some people take this for truth...
There are plenty of other religions, or interpretations of those religions (you guys are just a small part of christianity), so please explain to me why you are right and they are wrong.
Unfortunatly, the answer: "the Bible says so" is not enough. I know you are convinced that the Bible is the only truth available, but I'm afraid muslims say the exact same thing abouth the koran, and others think it's all the same, books written by people, nothing more. Why would you be right, and all the others wrong?

Note: This section was split off from Is Your Child a Goth, as the discussion merited its own space. -OYK

I know this user probably no longer posts here and I applaud them that much. His or Her IQ probably raised at least a good fifty points. Now before you decry me as something I am not, let me make this perfectly clear. I am unequivocally and unabashedly proud to say that I am an American which on top of I serve OUR country as a soldier. Now what I am trying to figure out is who started this entire pandering hatefest? The way all of you speak, and act sets you upon the same bar as the Westboro Baptist Church, which I will say right now I would love to see end in a hail of fire. The Bible is a Book, an amazingly well thought out and written book, but a book all the same. Now before you say I am an atheist, or a pagan, let me set you clear. I do believe in God. Let me restate that. GOD. Nothing else nothing more. I have a deep and unrelenting hate for all modern religions, for every one of them has run eschew. Some of those people you spit your hate mongering at are my brothers and sisters in arms. People that I trust with my life because I know them as only someone that has fought by someones side would know another human. GOD does not care what your religion is. He never did and never will. What GOD has always cared about is the way you conduct yourself in your daily life, not who you discriminate or hate against. GOD may know every path in your life, but he leaves the choice in your hands which path you take. He doesn't put a hand on your shoulder and tell you which way to go. Get out of your high-mindedness. Jesus was an always will be a great man. A great man among men, but simply a man to inspire and lead. Not some unfathomable ghost. NOW the Bible is fallible. Men do as men please. It's like the old saying. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't force it to drink. GOD could tell them what to write, but in the end they wrote what they thought important. Also unfortunately in today's society people such as yourselves take the Bible our of context. If you believe the bible then, to every female here in this forum, know your place and stand behind a man and keep your mouth shut. Thankfully I am a person that doesn't believe in that sort of thing. Thankfully I have the testicular fortitude to stand up and fight for things that I believe worth fighting for, such as going against that sort of horse shit. Oh and something I want to point out to you all

Mathew 7.1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.

Mathew 7.2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again

Jesus spoke of love not hate, so you are the ones that twist his words to fit your teachings.

Words of Wisdom

[Levi Jones]

Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

Mathew 7.1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.

Mathew 7.2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again

And then you stopped reading.

3And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
4Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
5Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

Hypocritical judgment not all and any judgment for the 1000th time.

[nquinton]

Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God?

No I didn't stop reading, I just put a portion, which my friend is the same as you do. Putting the rest of the writing doesn't prove me wrong. If anything it helps my case. And what you have nothing to say against anything else I wrote? Only on what I copied? You lot of people and so many people on both sides of the political and religious spectrum are the reasons why the country that I fight for, and love are going so fast into the bookmarks of history. All you claim you are right and they are wrong. For the love of, GOD, ALLAH, JEHOVAH, YAH WEH. Yes I know alot of ways to call GOD...GOD. No one is right, and no one is wrong when it comes to religion. The Christian GOD is the same GOD as the Jewish GOD. Yet you say they are wrong. Your Old Testament came from them, yet you say they are wrong. So quite literally you contradict yourself. Thus proving you are wrong on so many fronts.

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God?

No I didn't stop reading, I just put a portion, which my friend is the same as you do. Putting the rest of the writing doesn't prove me wrong. If anything it helps my case.

No, you quoted Jesus out of context. We do not quote out of context. Can you show us where we have twisted Scripture exactly?

You do the same thing as the fluffy bunny cafeteria Christians who love to quote John 3:16 and claim that God won't send anyone to Hell because He "loves the world" when you conveniently ignore the verse that follows...

John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

When it says right there that if you don't believe in Christ you will be condemned.

And what you have nothing to say against anything else I wrote? Only on what I copied? You lot of people and so many people on both sides of the political and religious spectrum are the reasons why the country that I fight for, and love are going so fast into the bookmarks of history. All you claim you are right and they are wrong. For the love of, GOD, ALLAH, JEHOVAH, YAH WEH. Yes I know alot of ways to call GOD...GOD. No one is right, and no one is wrong when it comes to religion.

Where is the logic in this? Don't you realize that religion is mutually exclusive? Assume for the sake of argument that we are right. That God exists and only those who believe in Christ will be Saved. Therefore, how could a Buddhist go to Heaven then? Or assume that Islam is right. We True Christians(tm) would burn in Hell because we have rejected Muhammad as the final prophet.

The Christian GOD is the same GOD as the Jewish GOD. Yet you say they are wrong. Your Old Testament came from them, yet you say they are wrong. So quite literally you contradict yourself. Thus proving you are wrong on so many fronts.

No, it's not the same God. Jews believe in a single God, we believe in a tripartite God who is the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. If a textbook perverted Darwin's teachings and said we all evolved from plants, instead of apes, would evolutionists agree with that?

[nquinton]

Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God?

Because God, is God. No matter what the name is God is simply God. There is no three part God, There is no Father, Son and Holy Ghost. Look at the Old Testament you old fool. My Messianic Jew Chaplain speaks more of the word of God then what flows from your moth. You speak hate, when Jesus spoke of love. There is no Godliness in hate. You great misguided fool, my own grandmother is closer to God then you ever will be. If I go to hell "Rev." Osborne, I'll be sure to save you a spot next to me. You have no idea what you are talking about. You never will. Until you've seen your best friend shot up and holding him, as a Chaplain mutters a benediction. Until you tell your friends mother, that her son is with God. You have no idea what you speak of. You hate mongering rhetoric sickens me to my bones. I fear that God has left us if you think you speak his word. I don't understand it. You and the people like you are the reason why hate exist in this world. And yes, I have completely given up trying to talk to you in a civil manner. Because civility will not prevail where their isn't a single civil person for it to take root in. I weep to know that I fight for such hateful people such as yourselves. I weep to know that I've damn near been killed so you can pursue the liberties that our country has to offer. You are a cancer upon the world, but still we fight and die so evil people like you can spew your nonsense and hate.

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God?

Because God, is God. No matter what the name is God is simply God.

So even if different entities are given the same name, that must mean the entities are the same? If I call a chair a "chair" and someone else calls a table a "chair"....is their table and my chair the same thing?

There is no three part God, There is no Father, Son and Holy Ghost.

That's not what the Bible says.

Look at the Old Testament you old fool. My Messianic Jew Chaplain speaks more of the word of God then what flows from your moth. You speak hate, when Jesus spoke of love.

I don't speak hate. I speak the truth.

Galatians 4:16 Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?

There is no Godliness in hate. You great misguided fool, my own grandmother is closer to God then you ever will be. If I go to hell "Rev." Osborne, I'll be sure to save you a spot next to me. You have no idea what you are talking about. You never will. Until you've seen your best friend shot up and holding him, as a Chaplain mutters a benediction. Until you tell your friends mother, that her son is with God.

So you're proud of being a filthy liar and helping send a person to Hell? While your best friend died, what you should've done was urged him to repent of his sins and accept Jesus Christ as his savior. Because you didn't care about the well-being of his soul, he is now burning in Hell. Then you have the gall to lie to his mother's face and tell her that he is with God.

You have no idea what you speak of. You hate mongering rhetoric sickens me to my bones. I fear that God has left us if you think you speak his word. I don't understand it. You and the people like you are the reason why hate exist in this world. And yes, I have completely given up trying to talk to you in a civil manner. Because civility will not prevail where their isn't a single civil person for it to take root in. I weep to know that I fight for such hateful people such as yourselves. I weep to know that I've damn near been killed so you can pursue the liberties that our country has to offer. You are a cancer upon the world, but still we fight and die so evil people like you can spew your nonsense and hate.

Go back and read what you just wrote. You're hateful, judgmental, and intolerant. Which is exactly what you accuse of us of being. Maybe the issue isn't so much with us, but a self-loathing you can't express otherwise?

Accepting Jesus Christ is the first step to overcoming your hysterical mental issues, lady.

[Jessica4JC]

Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God?

nquinton, for someone who doesn't believe in the Bible, you have awfully strong opinions on what you think it should say. But, the problem is you are framing the Bible in your own personal, subjective beliefs. Yes, we Christians are commanded to love, but your definition of love and what the Bible tells us is love is two different things.

A lot of the Bible may be considered "politically incorrect" by today's standards. But that is because we as a nation have fell away from God. Telling a person they will go to Hell if they don't accept Jesus as their savior is not hate. It is love. It is trying to help others become Saved.

I will pray for you. You seem to be very angry and bitter and that makes me sad because you obviously seem quite intelligent. If only you could apply that passion towards spreading the Gospel unto others! You are just misguided but Jesus Christ can help set you on the right path.

[nquinton]

Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God?

So insults are how you deal with people? And you are right, I am hateful, intolerant and judgmental just as you are. But I don't hate without a reason, and I don't hide behind the bible. And I will not tolerate people such as yourself. And I judge based off actions not based off of religion, race, sex. We are very different you and I. You are just plain uneducated trash the type of person I was warned all my childhood about. So do you and your church get together with the Westboro bunch?

[nquinton]

Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God?

Ma'am I have been misguided before in my life, and I admit to that. I found God again the day I watched my friend die in the desert of Iraq. And the God I love isn't what this man teaches. It just saddens me to know that this type of behavior is still present. Are our sacrifices not enough, to show you that no matter what sex, religion, or race we all have worth? Have not enough of my brothers and sister been killed to prove to you that no matter what we believe in we fight for you? And God doesn't care what religion they say they are, or what race, or what sex.