What happened to love the sinner, hate the sin?

[Unsaved, definitely]

I always though that God told us to love thy neighbor, and yet we're spreading messages of hate towards other people who we say aren't Christian? The Bible says that God loves all men, and this quote from Romans seems to work here. "But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us" Romans 5:8.

Jesus told us to love our fellow man, no matter who he may be. And there is this whole "holier than thou" attitude here, but we've all sinned, and are all sinners, and fall short of the glory of god. There is nobody here who isn't a sinner. Isn't that why Jesus came here, to save us? We seem to be doing more harm to people than we are helping.

I'll get banned here for sure, but I wanted to say what was on my mind.

[Levi Jones]

Re: What happened to love the sinner, hate the sin?

Someone is confused on the definition of what a neighbor is.

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: What happened to love the sinner, hate the sin?

I always though that God told us to love thy neighbor, and yet we're spreading messages of hate towards other people who we say aren't Christian? The Bible says that God loves all men, and this quote from Romans seems to work here. "But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us" Romans 5:8.

Jesus told us to love our fellow man, no matter who he may be. And there is this whole "holier than thou" attitude here, but we've all sinned, and are all sinners, and fall short of the glory of god. There is nobody here who isn't a sinner. Isn't that why Jesus came here, to save us? We seem to be doing more harm to people than we are helping.

I'll get banned here for sure, but I wanted to say what was on my mind.

Friend,

Were do we say we hate this horrible scum sucking sinners? No friend, we love these wretched pieces of two legged trash and want to help their worthless souls become SAVED just like we are. Yes, sinners deserve to be herded into extermination camps, worked to death and then their souls tortured for all eternity but Christ's victory over death has given them gift of redemption. They only have to reach and take it!

How is that wrong friend? Tell me.

[James Hutchins]

Re: What happened to love the sinner, hate the sin?

Friend, I sort of understand what you are saying but you are not clear. You are saying two thoughts. Re-state just a single one, in greater depth. back up all statements with scripture and verse.

[Unsaved, definitely]

Re: What happened to love the sinner, hate the sin?

Do you want me to point out all the threads here saying that they want all people who are "unsaved" to suffer?

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: What happened to love the sinner, hate the sin?

God doesn't love everybody:

Proverbs 6
[16] These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
[17] A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
[18] An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
[19] A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

And don't give me any "He hates the sin, not the sinner" crap...

Matthew 13
[38] The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;
[39] The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.
[40] As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.
[41] The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
[42] And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

Re: What happened to love the sinner, hate the sin?

More Bible verses show that not only does God NOT love everyone, he hates people too. He hates the sinner AND the sin!

The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.
Thou shalt destroy them that speak leasing: the LORD will abhor the bloody and deceitful man.
Psalm 5:5-6

The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence His soul hateth.
Psalm 11:5

[Unsaved, definitely]

Re: What happened to love the sinner, hate the sin?

I see that I have gotten an infraction here. Meh, I saw that coming.

I thought it was common knowledge that God's love is unconditional?

But because of his great love for us, God, who is rich in mercy, made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions--it is by grace you have been saved (Ephesians 2:4-5).

[James Hutchins]

Re: What happened to love the sinner, hate the sin?

Well, you got an infractionn for being uppity, I see

[James Hutchins]

Re: What happened to love the sinner, hate the sin?

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[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: What happened to love the sinner, hate the sin?

I thought it was common knowledge that God's love is unconditional?

Where does the Holy Bible say that God loves sodomites? Witches? The unrepentant scum like you who spend their every waking moment mocking Him?

If God's love is unconditional, what did He create hell for?

My guess is that you attens a false Christian church, and that you've nevr actually read the Bible cover-to-cover.

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

Re: What happened to love the sinner, hate the sin?

I see that I have gotten an infraction here. Meh, I saw that coming.

I thought it was common knowledge that God's love is unconditional?

But because of his great love for us, God, who is rich in mercy, made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions--it is by grace you have been saved (Ephesians 2:4-5).

You are twisting the Bible and quoting it out of context, like all false Christians do. Consider the context: Paul was writing to his fellow Christians. God does have great love for us -- for us Christians, that is. Nowhere does Paul write that God loves everybody, even those who are unsaved.

[David Goldman]

Re: What happened to love the sinner, hate the sin?

I see that I have gotten an infraction here. Meh, I saw that coming.

I thought it was common knowledge that God's love is unconditional?

But because of his great love for us, God, who is rich in mercy, made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions--it is by grace you have been saved (Ephesians 2:4-5).

"Ye shall utterly destroy all the places, wherein the nations which ye shall possess served their gods, upon the high mountains, and upon the hills, and under every green tree:
And ye shall overthrow their altars, and break their pillars, and burn their groves with fire; and ye shall hew down the graven images of their gods, and destroy the names of them out of that place."
Deuteronomy 12:2-3

"Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones."
Psalm 137:9

"Behold, I will corrupt your seed, and spread dung upon your faces, even the dung of your solemn feasts; and one shall take you away with it."
Malachi 2:3

"Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up."
Hosea 13:16

Some people call it "tough love".

[Unsaved, definitely]

Re: What happened to love the sinner, hate the sin?

Where does the Holy Bible say that God loves sodomites? Witches? The unrepentant scum like you who spend their every waking moment mocking Him?

If God's love is unconditional, what did He create hell for?

My guess is that you attens a false Christian church, and that you've nevr actually read the Bible cover-to-cover.

Oh, I trust my church very much.

And you've just stated a paradox right there.

A very famous bible verse also comes to mind, For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

I think we all know that one.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: What happened to love the sinner, hate the sin?

Oh, I trust my church very much.

And you've just stated a paradox right there.

A very famous bible verse also comes to mind, For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

I think we all know that one.

Jesus DID NOT die for everyone

He died for those that BELIEVE.

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, THAT WHOSOEVER BELIEVETH IN HIM SHOULD NOT PERISH, but have everlasting life.
John 3:16

Everyone doesn't believe in Jesus, thus they will perish.

Another false Christian failure.