[The Jabba Master]

Re: "Real" jedis - losers or just sad?

Star Wars is great, you are not.

Yes, yes it is and your right they arnt

good Job

[Brother Temperance]

Re: "Real" jedis - losers or just sad?

Yes, yes it is and your right they arnt

good Job

How have you not stuck your tongue in a plug socket yet? Funny you should mention good old Job, because that's exactly who I feel like right now.

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: "Real" jedis - losers or just sad?

Yes, yes it is and your right they arnt

good Job

I've been meaning to ask you Jabba Master; at the end of the third movie, what ever it is in the crazy series counting, Darth Vader die and rejoins the force and goes of to Jedi heaven. That seem to be me rather weak; he spends 90% his life killing, torturing men, women and children and getting off on it. Then at the last moment because the Emperor screws him so he kills the emperor and that his redemption. I mean come on.

Redemption only comes when you make up for your sins. In real life a sinner attacks God with their sins (the ultimate crime) so they have to repent to God for killing and torturing men, women and childern 90% of their life when God didn't order it. You see if Darth Vader were a real person he would have to make up to God for obeying the Emperor and not God and frankly Darth Vader never did that. All he does is roll over like a surrender monkey and gasp about his kid before he dies. Nothing about Jesus! No, the real Darth Vader is burning in Hell friend.

But the whole Skywalker clan was a bunch of liberal sissies. If it was me in front of the Emperor in that movie and not Luke force or no force there would be a lot less screaming about being electrocuted and a lot more Chuck Norris kicks upside the Emperor's head. Then again Star Wars is liberal propaganda made to distract us from liberating Iran so what do you expect?

[Blind leading the blind (On Moderation)]

Re: "Real" jedis - losers or just sad?

BJ, Lord Vader may have done that, I'm not saying he didn't, but things work differently in the Star Wars "universe". Lord Vader had learned from his mistakes and killed the Emperor to take the galaxy out of tyranny. He more than made up for it.
And that last paragraph made no sense. "The whole Skywalker Clan" consists of Lord Vader, Luke and Leia. I hardly call that a clan. It's three people.
We do agree on one thing: Emperor Palpatine is the most evil THING on the planet.

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: "Real" jedis - losers or just sad?

BJ, Lord Vader may have done that, I'm not saying he didn't, but things work differently in the Star Wars "universe". Lord Vader had learned from his mistakes and killed the Emperor to take the galaxy out of tyranny. He more than made up for it.
And that last paragraph made no sense. "The whole Skywalker Clan" consists of Lord Vader, Luke and Leia. I hardly call that a clan. It's three people.
We do agree on one thing: Emperor Palpatine is the most evil THING on the planet.

How so? None of them in the Star Wars “universe” ever even gave a nod to God, much less Jesus so from a moral view point they were all evil. From an atheist view point all their “powers” were supposed to come from mitochondria, in other words Arch-Atheist Dawkin's line in The Selfish Gene. So all Palpatine was doing was what his genes were program him too; screw everyone else so his genes could get ahead.

From the view point of you atheists Palpatine was a good man since he was out competing all the other “mems” around him.

[Blind leading the blind (On Moderation)]

Re: "Real" jedis - losers or just sad?

In the Star Wars "universe" no gods exist, only the Force. And the things that connect the Force users to the Force are Medichlorians, not mitochondria. Mitochondria are what help make food for a cell. That comes from Biology class, but I digress. Since both the gods of old and your god do not exist there, then redemption works differently.
Most think Palpatine is the most evil thing in the world. I say "thing" because I cannot classify it as human. Please, don't get me started on him.
And what are "mems"?

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: "Real" jedis - losers or just sad?

In the Star Wars "universe" no gods exist, only the Force. And the things that connect the Force users to the Force are Medichlorians, not mitochondria. Mitochondria are what help make food for a cell. That comes from Biology class, but I digress. Since both the gods of old and your god do not exist there, then redemption works differently.

Now you are being silly. God exists everywhere. He says so in The Bible. Also He is not just my God, He is everyone’s God or more to the point your are His creation.

Most think Palpatine is the most evil thing in the world. I say "thing" because I cannot classify it as human.

If Palpatine is not human how can he be evil? Do you think lions are evil because they prey on zebras? If so why aren’t the zebras not evil for preying upon plants. No, simply behaving as God creates you is not evil. I assume Palpatine is a human being so I can discuss his morality from human terms.

Now with that in mind and (Jesus forgive me) excluding God from the scene how is Palpatine evil? All he did was successfully out competed everyone around him. By your atheist morality Blind leading the Blind he is a good person.

Please, don't get me started on him.
And what are "mems"?

I am given to understand it is Dawkin’s term for a “unit of humans”. Such callous objectification of your fellow man should be familiar practice to you.

[Blind leading the blind (On Moderation)]

Re: "Real" jedis - losers or just sad?

1) I am not an athiest! You all know what I am! I am Pagan and proud!
2)your Diety did not create the Star Wars setting ("universe"), that came from George Lucas, therefore if anyone was to be god there it would be George Lucas...even though he can't really write worth crud....
3) Palpatine is evil because of the fact that he is a ruthless blockhead who rules the galaxy with an iron fist. He killed all the Jedi, even though a few escaped. I cannot classify him as human because he is a psychopathic Sith. I have nothing against the Sith but he was an embaressment. (I like both the Jedi [some of them] and the Sith.)
Wait didn't I ask you not to get me started talking about Palpatine?

[SalvationSeeker]

Re: "Real" jedis - losers or just sad?

The whole star wars series is one of the most wicked things ever produced.
The movies are filled with depraved sexual activity and vile blasphemy.
All the characters are vile, with no exceptions.

Lia and Luke are twins, yet they kiss and fondle each other!
And lia is a complete harlot, as she offers herself to Luke, Han AND Lampo!

Han's "best friend" (it's implied they are sexual partners) is a wicked & violent furry!
While Han himself is a criminal smuggler.
Same with his turncoat negro friend Lampo, criminals both of them.
And Lampo lived in "a city in the sky".. Which is clearly a reference to his abuse of the devils-weed!

The little beeping robot.. Just look at it!
It's phallic shaped, has a rotating head, and a solid base -
So it's clearly some kind of vile sexual self-gratification instrument..
Jaba's butt-plug most likely. Jesus pukes!

And speaking of jaba.. That is a clear-cut example of the sins of sloth and gluttony.
He never moves and keeps eating all the time..

And that other robot.. he is nothing but a walking & talking golden idol!
And in the last movie, he is even worshipped! But does anyone rebuke this as a good Christian would?
NO! Instead, luke uses his satan-given powers to make him fly through the air, cementing the false belief that he is a god!
And he speaks like a pompous brit, so you just know he's homosexual!

And luke himself.. As I said before, he got a crush on his sister. Truly VILE!
He disobeys worldy authority (the emperor) even though this is forbidden in the Holy Bible!
So does all those rebels, clearly, they are nothing but terrorists..
But the whole series encourage such terrorism!
Luke also engages in witchcraft and eastern "philosophical" ideas pushed by that false prophet of satan called "yoba"...
Who is a GREMLIN!


So by the looks of it, paleatin and vader are the least depraved characters in these movies..
If they only stopped practicing witchcraft and accepted Jesus, they'd be fine.
If that were to happen, I'm sure the two would give a powerful testimony of God's redeeming power, and convert many to the Lord Jesus Christ.
Praise God!

[Hitoshi]

Re: "Real" jedis - losers or just sad?

you guy are need see total awesome Japanese film is call 惑星大戦争 (mean Great Planet War also is call War In Space). film is from 70s and make Star War look like Star Joke. Go rent today!

[Hitoshi]

Re: "Real" jedis - losers or just sad?

And speaking of jaba.. That is a clear-cut example of the sins of sloth and gluttony.
He never moves and keeps eating all the time.

do I really need for make another fat American joke here? come on you guy you keep setting yourself up. is too easy is take all fun out of it.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: "Real" jedis - losers or just sad?

you guy are need see total awesome Japanese film is call 惑星大戦争 (mean Great Planet War also is call War In Space). film is from 70s and make Star War look like Star Joke. Go rent today!

Chinks in space. That'll be the day.

do I really need for make another fat American joke here? come on you guy you keep setting yourself up. is too easy is take all fun out of it.

For your information Hisashi, that Jabba tard isn't American. He is a sad little brit fag who lives in his parents basement and dresses up like princess Leiha all the time.

He's probably just your type.

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: "Real" jedis - losers or just sad?

1) I am not an athiest! You all know what I am! I am Pagan and proud!

Like that so different from atheism. Pagan or atheist, you both worship animals.

2)your Diety did not create the Star Wars setting ("universe"), that came from George Lucas, therefore if anyone was to be god there it would be George Lucas...even though he can't really write worth crud....

God, your' creator, also created George Lucas and inspired Lucas to create Star Wars.

3) Palpatine is evil because of the fact that he is a ruthless blockhead who rules the galaxy with an iron fist. He killed all the Jedi, even though a few escaped. I cannot classify him as human because he is a psychopathic Sith. I have nothing against the Sith but he was an embaressment. (I like both the Jedi [some of them] and the Sith.)
Wait didn't I ask you not to get me started talking about Palpatine?

You are the one who hijacked my discussion on the whether the redemption of Darth Vader is valid or not with your rant on the wickedness of Palpatine. By your argument Darth Vader can only be redeemed if Palpatine is TRULY EVIL® or at lest more evil than Darth Vader's own evil. So far the only proof of his evil, using your own atheo-pagan morality, is you don’t like him personally.

I will remind you from my own Christian morality* all the characters in Star Wars are equally evil since they all reject Jesus. I have yet to read of you showing me any exceptional behavior on Palpatine’s part that would make Palpatine anymore evil than say Luke Skywalker much less Darth Vader. Do remember killing a wicked person is not morally condemnable from the Christian perspective.

Since they are all evil people in the Star Wars universe, were has Palpatine harmed an innocent?

* that should be your’s too, sinner.

[Blind leading the blind (On Moderation)]

Re: "Real" jedis - losers or just sad?

The whole star wars series is one of the most wicked things ever produced.
The movies are filled with depraved sexual activity and vile blasphemy.
All the characters are vile, with no exceptions.

Lia and Luke are twins, yet they kiss and fondle each other!
And lia is a complete harlot, as she offers herself to Luke, Han AND Lampo!

Han's "best friend" (it's implied they are sexual partners) is a wicked & violent furry!
While Han himself is a criminal smuggler.
Same with his turncoat negro friend Lampo, criminals both of them.
And Lampo lived in "a city in the sky".. Which is clearly a reference to his abuse of the devils-weed!

The little beeping robot.. Just look at it!
It's phallic shaped, has a rotating head, and a solid base -
So it's clearly some kind of vile sexual self-gratification instrument..
Jaba's butt-plug most likely. Jesus pukes!

And speaking of jaba.. That is a clear-cut example of the sins of sloth and gluttony.
He never moves and keeps eating all the time..

And that other robot.. he is nothing but a walking & talking golden idol!
And in the last movie, he is even worshipped! But does anyone rebuke this as a good Christian would?
NO! Instead, luke uses his satan-given powers to make him fly through the air, cementing the false belief that he is a god!
And he speaks like a pompous brit, so you just know he's homosexual!

And luke himself.. As I said before, he got a crush on his sister. Truly VILE!
He disobeys worldy authority (the emperor) even though this is forbidden in the Holy Bible!
So does all those rebels, clearly, they are nothing but terrorists..
But the whole series encourage such terrorism!
Luke also engages in witchcraft and eastern "philosophical" ideas pushed by that false prophet of satan called "yoba"...
Who is a GREMLIN!


So by the looks of it, paleatin and vader are the least depraved characters in these movies..
If they only stopped practicing witchcraft and accepted Jesus, they'd be fine.
If that were to happen, I'm sure the two would give a powerful testimony of God's redeeming power, and convert many to the Lord Jesus Christ.
Praise God!

Your opinion about Star Wars is your opinion. I will not deny you that, but fact is that Luke and Leia didn't know they were siblings, seeing as how they were seperated at birth.
The man running the Empire (not the Empire itself, mind you) is evil because he uses the Dark Side of the Force unjustly and without remorse. Lord Vader felt remorse. Yes he used the Dark Side but also knew how to balance that out, mainly because he's good like that and was in perpetual mourning for his wife and "dead" son.
Hitoshi.... Nothing can top Star Wars in the Sci-Fi genre. This war has been faught (between Star Wars and Star Trek) and Star Wars won, and it can be won again.

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: "Real" jedis - losers or just sad?

Hitoshi.... Nothing can top Star Wars in the Sci-Fi genre. This war has been faught (between Star Wars and Star Trek) and Star Wars won, and it can be won again.

Nonsense, the new Battlestar Galatica is much better than the juvenile silliness of Star Wars with its power fantasy nonsense like “The Force”. Battlestar Galactica is an adult discussion of the proper relation ship between Christians and pagans and non-believers.