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  • Pastor Ezekiel
    Putting the "stud" back in Bible Study
     
    • Sep 2006
    • 78556

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    Teens Becoming False Christians

    Brothers and sister in Christ, THIS is an alarming trend amoung today's youth, and I say we at Landover Baptist Church need to take action to stem this evil tide. It is as obvious as the diamond on my pinky ring that limp-wristed, liberal churches and liberal parents are behind the effort to distance America's teens from Christ, to fill their heads with a mishmash of multicultural, superstitious nonsense, and spread false Christian lies. Fake Christians are satan's greatest weapon!

    Author: More teens becoming 'fake' Christians

    (CNN) -- If you're the parent of a Christian teenager, Kenda Creasy Dean has this warning:

    Your child is following a "mutant" form of Christianity, and you may be responsible.

    Dean says more American teenagers are embracing what she calls "moralistic therapeutic deism." Translation: It's a watered-down faith that portrays God as a "divine therapist" whose chief goal is to boost people's self-esteem.

    Dean is a minister, a professor at Princeton Theological Seminary and the author of "Almost Christian," a new book that argues that many parents and pastors are unwittingly passing on this self-serving strain of Christianity.

    She says this "imposter'' faith is one reason teenagers abandon churches.

    "If this is the God they're seeing in church, they are right to leave us in the dust," Dean says. "Churches don't give them enough to be passionate about."

    What traits passionate teens share

    Dean drew her conclusions from what she calls one of the most depressing summers of her life. She interviewed teens about their faith after helping conduct research for a controversial study called the National Study of Youth and Religion.

    The study, which included in-depth interviews with at least 3,300 American teenagers between 13 and 17, found that most American teens who called themselves Christian were indifferent and inarticulate about their faith.

    The study included Christians of all stripes -- from Catholics to Protestants of both conservative and liberal denominations. Though three out of four American teenagers claim to be Christian, fewer than half practice their faith, only half deem it important, and most can't talk coherently about their beliefs, the study found.

    Many teenagers thought that God simply wanted them to feel good and do good -- what the study's researchers called "moralistic therapeutic deism."

    Some critics told Dean that most teenagers can't talk coherently about any deep subject, but Dean says abundant research shows that's not true.

    "They have a lot to say," Dean says. "They can talk about money, sex and their family relationships with nuance. Most people who work with teenagers know that they are not naturally inarticulate."

    In "Almost Christian," Dean talks to the teens who are articulate about their faith. Most come from Mormon and evangelical churches, which tend to do a better job of instilling religious passion in teens, she says.

    No matter their background, Dean says committed Christian teens share four traits: They have a personal story about God they can share, a deep connection to a faith community, a sense of purpose and a sense of hope about their future.

    "There are countless studies that show that religious teenagers do better in school, have better relationships with their parents and engage in less high-risk behavior," she says. "They do a lot of things that parents pray for."

    Dean, a United Methodist Church minister who says parents are the most important influence on their children's faith, places the ultimate blame for teens' religious apathy on adults.

    Some adults don't expect much from youth pastors. They simply want them to keep their children off drugs and away from premarital sex.

    Others practice a "gospel of niceness," where faith is simply doing good and not ruffling feathers. The Christian call to take risks, witness and sacrifice for others is muted, she says.

    "If teenagers lack an articulate faith, it may be because the faith we show them is too spineless to merit much in the way of conversation," wrote Dean, a professor of youth and church culture at Princeton Theological Seminary.

    More teens may be drifting away from conventional Christianity. But their desire to help others has not diminished, another author says.

    Barbara A. Lewis, author of "The Teen Guide to Global Action," says Dean is right -- more teens are embracing a nebulous belief in God.

    Yet there's been an "explosion" in youth service since 1995 that Lewis attributes to more schools emphasizing community service.

    Teens that are less religious aren't automatically less compassionate, she says.

    "I see an increase in youth passion to make the world a better place," she says. "I see young people reaching out to solve problems. They're not waiting for adults."

    What religious teens say about their peers

    Elizabeth Corrie meets some of these idealistic teens every summer. She has taken on the book's central challenge: instilling religious passion in teens.

    Corrie, who once taught high school religion, now directs a program called YTI -- the Youth Theological Initiative at Emory University in Georgia.

    YTI operates like a theological boot camp for teens. At least 36 rising high school juniors and seniors from across the country gather for three weeks of Christian training. They worship together, take pilgrimages to varying religious communities and participate in community projects.

    Corrie says she sees no shortage of teenagers who want to be inspired and make the world better. But the Christianity some are taught doesn't inspire them "to change anything that's broken in the world."

    Teens want to be challenged; they want their tough questions taken on, she says.

    "We think that they want cake, but they actually want steak and potatoes, and we keep giving them cake," Corrie says.

    David Wheaton, an Atlanta high school senior, says many of his peers aren't excited about Christianity because they don't see the payoff.

    "If they can't see benefits immediately, they stay away from it," Wheaton says. "They don't want to make sacrifices."

    How 'radical' parents instill religious passion in their children

    Churches, not just parents, share some of the blame for teens' religious apathy as well, says Corrie, the Emory professor.

    She says pastors often preach a safe message that can bring in the largest number of congregants. The result: more people and yawning in the pews.

    "If your church can't survive without a certain number of members pledging, you might not want to preach a message that might make people mad," Corrie says. "We can all agree that we should all be good and that God rewards those who are nice."

    Corrie, echoing the author of "Almost Christian," says the gospel of niceness can't teach teens how to confront tragedy.

    "It can't bear the weight of deeper questions: Why are my parents getting a divorce? Why did my best friend commit suicide? Why, in this economy, can't I get the good job I was promised if I was a good kid?"

    What can a parent do then?

    Get "radical," Dean says.

    She says parents who perform one act of radical faith in front of their children convey more than a multitude of sermons and mission trips.

    A parent's radical act of faith could involve something as simple as spending a summer in Bolivia working on an agricultural renewal project or turning down a more lucrative job offer to stay at a struggling church, Dean says.

    But it's not enough to be radical -- parents must explain "this is how Christians live," she says.

    "If you don't say you're doing it because of your faith, kids are going to say my parents are really nice people," Dean says. "It doesn't register that faith is supposed to make you live differently unless parents help their kids connect the dots."

    'They called when all the cards stopped'

    Anne Havard, an Atlanta teenager, might be considered radical. She's a teen whose faith appears to be on fire.

    Havard, who participated in the Emory program, bubbles over with energy when she talks about possibly teaching theology in the future and quotes heavy-duty scholars such as theologian Karl Barth.

    She's so fired up about her faith that after one question, Havard goes on a five-minute tear before stopping and chuckling: "Sorry, I just talked a long time."

    Havard says her faith has been nurtured by what Dean, the "Almost Christian" author, would call a significant faith community.

    In 2006, Havard lost her father to a rare form of cancer. Then she lost one of her best friends -- a young woman in the prime of life -- to cancer as well. Her church and her pastor stepped in, she says.

    "They called when all the cards stopped," she says.

    When asked how her faith held up after losing her father and friend, Havard didn't fumble for words like some of the teens in "Almost Christian."

    She says God spoke the most to her when she felt alone -- as Jesus must have felt on the cross.

    "When Jesus was on the cross crying out, 'My God, why have you forsaken me?' Jesus was part of God,'' she says. "Then God knows what it means to doubt.

    "It's OK to be in a storm, to be in a doubt," she says, "because God was there, too."
    Who Will Jesus Damn?

    Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

    Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

    Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!
  • CyberYahweh
    Honorary True Christian™
    Forum Member
    • Aug 2010
    • 161

    #2
    Re: Teens Becoming False Christians

    The Apostle Paul would vomit in rage, were he alive today.

    Such apostasy, and poor parenting to the damnable teens... Thanks for the heads up, sir.
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    • Seth Campbell
      Outdoorsman, Hunter, Fisherman, Husband, True Christian™
      True Christian™
      • Apr 2010
      • 1565

      #3
      Re: Teens Becoming False Christians

      Dean says more American teenagers are embracing what she calls "moralistic therapeutic deism." Translation: It's a watered-down faith that portrays God as a "divine therapist" whose chief goal is to boost people's self-esteem.
      How many of these do we see here every day. I'm a Christian! So what if I do drugs, am homosexual, weigh 300 pounds, am a witch, and spend my days looking at porn, I'm still a Christian!

      In "Almost Christian," Dean talks to the teens who are articulate about their faith. Most come from Mormon and evangelical churches, which tend to do a better job of instilling religious passion in teens, she says.
      This is disturbing, Mormons?

      She says pastors often preach a safe message that can bring in the largest number of congregants. The result: more people and yawning in the pews.
      Hence the whiteout.
      PROOF: Atheists are too stupid to understand the Bible!

      Proverbs 13:24(KJV): "He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes."

      Galatians 4:16 Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?

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      • landoverlover
        Also loves Jesus and America
        True Christian™
        • Jul 2010
        • 828

        #4
        Re: Teens Becoming False Christians

        Don't get me started.

        I was raised in the Lutheran church in the early 1960's. This was a church, typical of Lutherans at the time, of a stern God who demanded obedience. We were bused to see Billy Graham, who at the time told us point-blank that hell awaited the unrepentant sinner. We sang the old hymns of faith. We were trained for years on the Bible, and stood before the congregation to answer questions demonstrating our knowledge and understanding of the King James Bible. We had to ACT and DECLARE and KNOW. It was a faith based on the teachings of a man who told the Catholics exactly what they needed to be told.

        Now I look at the wreckage of that church. Homosexual pastors, women pastors, all feel-good services with no guts. Like Oakland, there's no "there" there. The Methodists, Episcos, Presbyterians, they're nothing but a can of whipped cream, unicorns and glitter, a Heavenly Happy Meal.

        Thank God for Landover! The last bastion of real Christians in America!
        Leviticus 13:44 He is a leprous man, he is UNCLEAN: the priest shall pronounce him utterly UNCLEAN; his plague is in his head.

        2 Kings 6:25 And there was a great famine in Samaria: and, behold, they besieged it, until an ass's head was sold for fourscore pieces of silver, and the fourth part of a cab of dove's dung for five pieces of silver.



        King James Bible v1611

        Good Enough For JESUS....Good Enough For Me !!

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        • Seth Campbell
          Outdoorsman, Hunter, Fisherman, Husband, True Christian™
          True Christian™
          • Apr 2010
          • 1565

          #5
          Re: Teens Becoming False Christians

          Originally posted by landoverlover View Post
          Don't get me started.

          I was raised in the Lutheran church in the early 1960's. This was a church, typical of Lutherans at the time, of a stern God who demanded obedience. We were bused to see Billy Graham, who at the time told us point-blank that hell awaited the unrepentant sinner. We sang the old hymns of faith. We were trained for years on the Bible, and stood before the congregation to answer questions demonstrating our knowledge and understanding of the King James Bible. We had to ACT and DECLARE and KNOW. It was a faith based on the teachings of a man who told the Catholics exactly what they needed to be told.

          Now I look at the wreckage of that church. Homosexual pastors, women pastors, all feel-good services with no guts. Like Oakland, there's no "there" there. The Methodists, Episcos, Presbyterians, they're nothing but a can of whipped cream, unicorns and glitter, a Heavenly Happy Meal.

          Thank God for Landover! The last bastion of real Christians in America!
          I know the feeling Brother, I was raised Presbyterian and sat week after week of fire and brimstone. Now in 2006 they decided to accept gay and lesbian pastors.
          PROOF: Atheists are too stupid to understand the Bible!

          Proverbs 13:24(KJV): "He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes."

          Galatians 4:16 Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?

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          • F. Nietzsche
            Unsaved trash, teenage wannabe nihilist
            • Apr 2008
            • 120

            #6
            Re: Teens Becoming False Christians

            [QUOTE=landoverlover;589913]Don't get me started.

            I was raised in the Lutheran church in the early 1960's. This was a church, typical of Lutherans at the time, of a stern God who demanded obedience. We were bused to see Billy Graham, who at the time told us point-blank that hell awaited the unrepentant sinner. We sang the old hymns of faith. We were trained for years on the Bible, and stood before the congregation to answer questions demonstrating our knowledge and understanding of the King James Bible. We had to ACT and DECLARE and KNOW. It was a faith based on the teachings of a man who told the Catholics exactly what they needed to be told.

            Now I look at the wreckage of that church. Homosexual pastors, women pastors, all feel-good services with no guts. Like Oakland, there's no "there" there. The Methodists, Episcos, Presbyterians, they're nothing but a can of whipped cream, unicorns and glitter, a Heavenly Happy Meal.

            Thank God for Landover! The last bastion of real Christians in America![/QUOTE]

            Are you saying that Mr. Phelps and the Westboro Baptist Church are false Christians? That's rather suprising...
            The world itself is the will to power - and nothing else! And you yourself are the will to power - and nothing else!

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            • Pastor Isaac Peters
              Senior Pastor
              Ex-liberal; converted to True Christianity™
              Always Biblically correct
              True Christian™
              • Sep 2006
              • 10639

              #7
              Re: Teens Becoming False Christians

              Originally posted by F. Nietzsche View Post
              Are you saying that Mr. Phelps and the Westboro Baptist Church are false Christians? That's rather suprising...
              It shouldn't be. The Westboro Baptists are right to rebuke sinners, but wrong to cherry-pick which sinners to rebuke.
              This church is dedicated to preaching True Christianity™ and the King James Bible exactly as they are, with no alterations to make them more politically correct for modern liberals. If you think that we've misquoted or twisted Scripture or quoted any verse out of context, please explain in detail how we've done so. Otherwise, if what you read on this site offends you, then you're offended by Almighty God and His Word, not by us.

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              • shelanie
                Unsaved trash
                • Sep 2010
                • 11

                #8
                Re: Teens Becoming False Christians

                I agree with that. At my church very few teenagers get involved. They rarely come to church, and when they do it's nothing but messing around. That's why I'm glad I was raised to sit in the front of the church where there are no such distractions. But it really makes me upset when they only come to church to mess around and get the benefits(food ect). And they continue to call themselves Christians. It really really makes me upset, I don't even like seeing those people because it reminds me how they use our welcoming church only for their benefits, and don't even try to give anything back.

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                • Pastor Ezekiel
                  Putting the "stud" back in Bible Study
                   
                  • Sep 2006
                  • 78556

                  #9
                  Re: Teens Becoming False Christians

                  Originally posted by shelanie View Post
                  I agree with that. At my church very few teenagers get involved. They rarely come to church, and when they do it's nothing but messing around. That's why I'm glad I was raised to sit in the front of the church where there are no such distractions. But it really makes me upset when they only come to church to mess around and get the benefits(food ect). And they continue to call themselves Christians. It really really makes me upset, I don't even like seeing those people because it reminds me how they use our welcoming church only for their benefits, and don't even try to give anything back.
                  What "church" do you attend? Why do you even bother? You're a pervert and an antichrist.
                  Who Will Jesus Damn?

                  Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

                  Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

                  Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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                  • Seth Campbell
                    Outdoorsman, Hunter, Fisherman, Husband, True Christian™
                    True Christian™
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 1565

                    #10
                    Re: Teens Becoming False Christians

                    Originally posted by Pastor Isaac Peters View Post
                    It shouldn't be. The Westboro Baptists are right to rebuke sinners, but wrong to cherry-pick which sinners to rebuke.
                    And why does Fred let Shirley Phelps scream like a banshee.

                    While I'm at it, why didn't Shirley take her husbands name.

                    Damn liebrals.
                    PROOF: Atheists are too stupid to understand the Bible!

                    Proverbs 13:24(KJV): "He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes."

                    Galatians 4:16 Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?

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                    • TC Patriot
                      AMERICA - LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT!!!
                      True Christian™
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 1060

                      #11
                      Re: Teens Becoming False Christians

                      It's secular humanism with a thin veneer of false Christianity. What teens need and my girls are perfect examples of what a Godly hickory switch across their bare buttocks can do to bring a teen girl to Christ!

                      Jesus loves Dick



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                      • Bobby-Joe
                        Landover Security Superviser
                        Asset Loss Prevention and Personal Security Expert
                        NOT angry and positively NOT Gay
                        True Christian™
                        • Sep 2006
                        • 18405

                        #12
                        Re: Teens Becoming False Christians

                        Those parents had any love for their children they would beat them to a bloody pulp every day until those children begged to love Jesus! There are no atheists in foxholes so let those parents put those kids in those foxholes. Kids have it to easy, they need to feel the TOUGH love of Jesus upon their bodies.

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                        • shelanie
                          Unsaved trash
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 11

                          #13
                          Re: Teens Becoming False Christians

                          Originally posted by Pastor Ezekiel View Post
                          What "church" do you attend? Why do you even bother? You're a pervert and an antichrist.
                          And why am I a pervert? What have I done? And there will be only ONE antichrist, it will be a guy, He will say he is God(none of which I am or have done) so what makes me the antichrist then?

                          2 Thessalonians 2:3-4
                          3 Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessnessa is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. 4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God.

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                          • Levi Jones
                            Pastor of Hermeneutics and Apologetics
                            Bathed in Christ's Precious Blood
                            Apostle to the Cactuses, Tumbleweeds and Jackrabbits
                             
                            • Jul 2009
                            • 13930

                            #14
                            Re: Teens Becoming False Christians

                            Originally posted by shelanie View Post
                            And why am I a pervert? What have I done? And there will be only ONE antichrist, it will be a guy,
                            It's good to see you reading the Bible, but you are incorrect that there will only be one antichrist.

                            1 John 2:18,22 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

                            Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.


                            Also, 1 John tell us to test the spirits. If they say they came from God, they did.

                            1 John 4:1-3 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
                            And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
                            Christians are superior because we possess an understanding that unbelievers lack. It is through the Power of Jesus only the converted mind is able to understand what is going on in the world; what the Communists are really up to; what Satan's intentions are. Most unbelievers do not even believe in Satan and cannot understand his tactics.

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                            • Pastor Ezekiel
                              Putting the "stud" back in Bible Study
                               
                              • Sep 2006
                              • 78556

                              #15
                              Re: Teens Becoming False Christians

                              Originally posted by shelanie View Post
                              And why am I a pervert? What have I done?
                              Originally posted by shelanie View Post
                              Man I'm really gonna burn in hell aren't I? I have 23 yes' on the list of being a godless goth. I was born and still am left handed. My best friend is a Ginger. My mom and dad were not married when they had me(and still are not) My mom was also wiccan/white witch, and athiest for the longest time.
                              You've answered your own question.
                              Who Will Jesus Damn?

                              Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

                              Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

                              Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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