[Lycia The Repentant]

Re: The only one true Religion

You're just behaving like the jinn try to deceive the believers. I have already explained to you and through your ignorance you are unable to understand. It must be because you are a female and unable to comprehend such matters.

Since you have found copies of English Quran's try reading them to find the true path to Allah (pbuh).

But "imam" Rafiki, didn't you just say the English Qurans aren't pure like the Arabic versions? Why are you trying to get me to read a corrupted version of your (false) holy book?

[Imam Rashik]

Re: The only one true Religion

So those translations I posted aren't the Quran? Or are they a Quran with errors? Because I think you stated that a Quran was never made with errors.

You're just behaving like the jinn try to deceive the believers. I have already explained to you and through your ignorance you are unable to understand. It must be because you are a female and unable to comprehend such matters.

Since you have found copies of English Quran's try reading them to find the true path to Allah (pbuh).

[Lisa H]

Re: The only one true Religion

Lisa I don't understand why they don't just repent instead of trying their ridiculous arguments.

Who knows Lycia. I know God gave us free to believe in Him, but I suspect that Satan needs some more fuel to keep Hell hot.

[Lycia The Repentant]

Re: The only one true Religion

Lycia I suspect Jo Freddie has brought one of his God mocking friends to support him.

Lisa I don't understand why they don't just repent instead of trying their ridiculous arguments.

Lycia you failed to understand. The purity of The Holy Quran is in Arabic. Any translation into other languages must be authorized and considered not to be as pure as the Arabic version. You also failed to take note that many pure Islamic countries speak Arabic and services are also in Arabic. Next time do better research.

I see...

The Holy Quran has never been made with errors. If a person were to ever make such an error that would be put death.

So those translations I posted aren't the Quran? Or are they a Quran with errors? Because I think you stated that a Quran was never made with errors.

[Imam Rashik]

Re: The only one true Religion

Then how exactly do you explain these differences in Surah An-Nahl (16:25)?

Yusuf Ali translation: Let them bear, on the Day of Judgment, their own burdens in full, and also (something) of the burdens of those without knowledge, whom they misled. Alas, how grievous the burdens they will bear!

M. Asad translation : Hence, on Resurrection Day they shall bear the full weight of their own burdens, as well as some of the burdens of those ignorant ones whom they have led astray: oh, how evil the load with which they shall be burdened!

Pickthall translation: That they may bear their burdens undiminished on the Day of Resurrection, with somewhat of the burdens of those whom they mislead without knowledge. Ah! evil is that which they bear!

Shakir translation: That they may bear their burdens entirely on the day of resurrection and also of the burdens of those whom they lead astray without knowledge; now surely evil is what they bear.

Obviously, they can't all be right.

Lycia you failed to understand. The purity of The Holy Quran is in Arabic. Any translation into other languages must be authorized and considered not to be as pure as the Arabic version. You also failed to take note that many pure Islamic countries speak Arabic and services are also in Arabic. Next time do better research.

[Lycia The Repentant]

Re: The only one true Religion

The Holy Quran has never been made with errors. If a person were to ever make such an error that would be put death.

Then how exactly do you explain these differences in Surah An-Nahl (16:25)?

Yusuf Ali translation: Let them bear, on the Day of Judgment, their own burdens in full, and also (something) of the burdens of those without knowledge, whom they misled. Alas, how grievous the burdens they will bear!

M. Asad translation : Hence, on Resurrection Day they shall bear the full weight of their own burdens, as well as some of the burdens of those ignorant ones whom they have led astray: oh, how evil the load with which they shall be burdened!

Pickthall translation: That they may bear their burdens undiminished on the Day of Resurrection, with somewhat of the burdens of those whom they mislead without knowledge. Ah! evil is that which they bear!

Shakir translation: That they may bear their burdens entirely on the day of resurrection and also of the burdens of those whom they lead astray without knowledge; now surely evil is what they bear.

Obviously, they can't all be right.

[Lisa H]

Re: The only one true Religion

Lycia I suspect Jo Freddie has brought one of his God mocking friends to support him.

[Imam Rashik]

Re: The only one true Religion

So what you are saying is that it is a physical impossibility for a printing of the Quran to ever accidentally contain errors caused by the printer of the physical book?

The Holy Quran has never been made with errors. If a person were to ever make such an error that would be put death.

[Lycia The Repentant]

Re: The only one true Religion

So the 1611 version is an imperfect Rendering of the KJV bible and we should look to the 1769 Rendering?

I don't know, pasta-Io. Would you care to point out any differences between the KJV 1611 and the KJV 1769 that are not due to spelling or formatting? If it doesn't have any, then it means the 1769 version IS the 1611 version, just with standardized spelling and printing.

You admit your Holy Book is corrupted and contains errors in printing. The Holy Quran is never written with errors, to do so would be blasphemy. Allah (pbuh) would not be Pleased.

So what you are saying is that it is a physical impossibility for a printing of the Quran to ever accidentally contain errors caused by the printer of the physical book?

[Imam Rashik]

Re: The only one true Religion

This thread should be renamed "unsaved trash don't understand the differences between a manuscript and a printing".



I just explained that the KJV 1611 is a perfect manuscript. If somebody made a printing of the Quran that didn't print every fifth "t" would you think the Quran is corrupted?

You admit your Holy Book is corrupted and contains errors in printing. The Holy Quran is never written with errors, to do so would be blasphemy. Allah (pbuh) would not be Pleased.

[Jo Freddie]

Re: The only one true Religion

OK, let me try to explain this in a way that even your pasta-addled brain can understand.

The KJV 1611 MANUSCRIPT is perfect. Until around 1650 there was no standardization of spelling in English, and early printers were notorious for manipulating that PERFECT MANUSCRIPT in various ways to make their type set fit the page. This means that prior to 1769 there were PERFECT MANUSCRIPTS with IMPERFECT RENDERINGS due to the non-standardization of the text. Get it?

So the 1611 version is an imperfect Rendering of the KJV bible and we should look to the 1769 Rendering?

[Lycia The Repentant]

Re: The only one true Religion

This thread should be renamed "unsaved trash don't understand the differences between a manuscript and a printing".

Lycia that is one reason why The Holy Quran is the only pure Holy Book. You Holy Book has been corrupted.

I just explained that the KJV 1611 is a perfect manuscript. If somebody made a printing of the Quran that didn't print every fifth "t" would you think the Quran is corrupted?

[Imam Rashik]

Re: The only one true Religion

OK, let me try to explain this in a way that even your pasta-addled brain can understand.

The KJV 1611 MANUSCRIPT is perfect. Until around 1650 there was no standardization of spelling in English, and early printers were notorious for manipulating that PERFECT MANUSCRIPT in various ways to make their type set fit the page. This means that prior to 1769 there were PERFECT MANUSCRIPTS with IMPERFECT RENDERINGS due to the non-standardization of the text. Get it?

Lycia that is one reason why The Holy Quran is the only pure Holy Book. You Holy Book has been corrupted.

[Lycia The Repentant]

Re: The only one true Religion

I am not the one making the claim that the 1611 version is perfect and all others are inferior.

OK, let me try to explain this in a way that even your pasta-addled brain can understand.

The KJV 1611 MANUSCRIPT is perfect. Until around 1650 there was no standardization of spelling in English, and early printers were notorious for manipulating that PERFECT MANUSCRIPT in various ways to make their type set fit the page. This means that prior to 1769 there were PERFECT MANUSCRIPTS with IMPERFECT RENDERINGS due to the non-standardization of the text. Get it?

[Lisa H]

Re: The only one true Religion

Anyone can go and find an original copy of the 1611 version and check for themselves, they will see I have made nothing up.

Oh look, I found a picture from the same book you have been quoting