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  • #16
    Re: Church of England: Atheism is "Cool"??

    Pastor,

    Praise JESUS!

    GOD is a great GOD of order. But HIS Mind is not ours.
    When I was looking for a screen name, HE had me at peace. As I said, I came from other websites and HE had me ministering there and receiving the WORD! So, the Corinthians passage makes no sense to what you are saying. HE was definitely in order. But remember GOD loves to test the righteous, because it strengthens us:

    Job 10:15-17
    If I be wicked, woe unto me; and if I be righteous, yet will I not lift up my head. I am full of confusion; therefore see thou mine affliction; For it increaseth. Thou huntest me as a fierce lion: and again thou shewest thyself marvelous upon me.
    Thou renewest thy witnesses against me, and increasest thine indignation upon me; changes and war are against me.

    Daniel 12:10
    Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.

    Jeremiah 18:11
    Now therefore go to, speak to the men of Judah, and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem, saying, Thus saith the LORD; Behold, I frame evil against you, and devise a device against you: return ye now every one from his evil way, and make your ways and your doings good.

    Hebrews 12:5-8
    And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him:
    For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.
    If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?
    But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.

    Matthew 15:21-28 was not a rebuke at all.
    Mark 11:15-17. That was not a rebuke, that was a judgement, because HE saw their evil and knew the hearts. Your passage here agrees with everything the HOLY SPIRIT is having me say.
    We dont know peoples' hearts. There is a big difference here. We can only look at actions and try to stear people from their actions love; as JESUS did for us. If we do any rebuking, its one on one. If its in the open, it's done in love.
    Thats why we must be slow to anger
    James 1:19-20:
    Wherefore, my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath: For the wrath of man worketh not the righteousness of God.

    Only JESUS knows humans hearts. That's why HE can rebuke, judge, condemn, die, resurrect, descend and defeat the demon, and more.......Look at the change in the disciples after HE ascended. Especially in Peter and Paul towards the end of their ministry.


    The word unconditional love is not there. It's used to describe that love HE has. To love your enemies, your neighbor as yourself, and treat your brother special. Who does HE say not to love?? Unconditional love is this. That is just a short word for all HIS love is without showing all the verses mentioned. YES, I know you can go far with that one ( meaning dont go through the " adding to HIS word" comments. As HE knows what I mean as it's backed up with scripture. . As we are shorthanding alot of things, it would be great to speak in person ( if GOD allowed). But, again, I gave the LUKE verse to back it up. There are many more. Loving everyone is love unconditional.


    Condemnation of GOD in different places of the righteous if they dont do certain things. Remember fear makes a big difference:

    Ezekial 3-18-21
    When I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; and thou givest him not warning, nor speakest to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand.
    Yet if thou warn the wicked, and he turn not from his wickedness, nor from his wicked way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul.
    Again, When a righteous man doth turn from his righteousness, and commit iniquity, and I lay a stumblingblock before him, he shall die: because thou hast not given him warning, he shall die in his sin, and his righteousness which he hath done shall not be remembered; but his blood will I require at thine hand.
    Nevertheless if thou warn the righteous man, that the righteous sin not, and he doth not sin, he shall surely live, because he is warned; also thou hast delivered thy soul.

    Ezekial 18:24-26
    But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked man doeth, shall he live? All his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned: in his trespass that he hath trespassed, and in his sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die.
    Yet ye say, The way of the Lord is not equal. Hear now, O house of Israel; Is not my way equal? are not your ways unequal?
    When a righteous man turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and dieth in them; for his iniquity that he hath done shall he die.


    Your brother or sister is a believer
    Your neighbor is the people here ( seeking or not); humans. Even if people reject us, JESUS just say to shake the dust off your feet. Not many act like this when rejected. That's love.
    Your enemy is the adversary

    Grace and peace

    thefather

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    • #17
      Re: Church of England: Atheism is "Cool"??

      Dan,

      PRAISE JESUS! Who is telling you what part of the Bible to obey?? We are supposed to obey all of it. So, if someone suggesting a BIBLE passage to a Christian is offensive, that would be strange.
      Also, a forum is to express opinions. Some come across aggressive, some loving, some humble, etc...we are all different. GOD made us all different. HE knows our hearts and their intentions. If you felt I am telling you to obey the WORD?? Then I do feel sorry for that comment ( not for you, because that would be a judgement). I only say this, because if anyone hear gives a passage, I humbly confess, and bow and read it. Even if I think it's out of context, I will pray and ask the FATHER for advice and respect where that persons' faith is. Of course, you dont have to do what I do. Again, GOD made you different, and I respect all that GOD's HANDS has made. And I am not saying you dont. I am only speaking for me. I pray GOD has you understand what I am saying.

      Before I go on, do you believe Jesus as a Man in the New testament and is in the Old Testament?? Or only in the New Testament??

      I need to know this before I can answer the rest of your post. Because GOD has made me realize this is very crucial before HE allows me to type an answer. And HE is making me realize what I need to see here.


      Grace and Peace in JESUS HOLY and PRECIOUS NAME!! AMEN!!

      thefather

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      • #18
        Re: Church of England: Atheism is "Cool"??

        Originally posted by thefather View Post
        Before I go on, do you believe Jesus as a Man in the New testament and is in the Old Testament?? Or only in the New Testament??
        We can enter into a scholarly discussion about the Old Testament prophecies of Jesus Christ being fulfilled in the New Testament; nevertheless, Jesus was never specifically mentioned in the Old Testament. That’s a simple fact. On the other side, Jesus specifically says:

        John 10:35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;

        Matthew 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled

        Originally posted by thefather View Post
        ...Because GOD has made me realize this is very crucial before HE allows me to type an answer. And HE is making me realize what I need to see here...
        Can you back up your claim with the scripture? Again, a vast majority of True Christians™ don’t hear voices in our heads; God speaks to us thought the Holy Bible, which is authoritative Word of God, all its parts, down to the very words.

        YiC, DUH
        Ask not what your Lord can do for you. Ask what you can do for your Lord.


        ... your choice entirely (Matthew 12:30)

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        • #19
          Re: Church of England: Atheism is "Cool"??

          Dan,
          GOD BLESS US ALL! If anyone hears voices ( plural) in their head? I would definitely worry; as should anyone.

          The still small voice is only one voice! Thats all I hear. Not many will or did hear HIS voice. The Holy Spirit tells me to leave you with these passages

          The Father left us the Holy Spirit ( comforter), and not all are supposed to hear

          John 14:15-17
          15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
          16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
          17 [Even] the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.


          Mark 13:11
          But when they shall lead you, and deliver you up, take no thought beforehand what ye shall speak, neither do ye premeditate: but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak ye: for it is not ye that speak, but the Holy Ghost.

          Acts 13:1-2
          1 Now there were in the church that was at Antioch certain prophets and teachers; as Barnabas, and Simeon that was called Niger, and Lucius of Cyrene, and Manaen, which had been brought up with Herod the tetrarch, and Saul.
          2 As they ministered to the Lord, and fasted, the Holy Ghost said, Separate me Barnabas and Saul for the work whereunto I have called them.

          Romans 8:14
          14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.


          They that have an ear let them hear:
          Mark 4:9
          And he said unto them, He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.

          Ezekial 2:7
          And thou shalt speak my words unto them, whether they will hear, or whether they will forbear: for they are most rebellious.

          Do you understand this? Let me know.

          If so, then, the Holy Spirit will allow me to go into talking about JESUS in the OT.

          If we are not on one accord or an understanding, there is no point on this subject. Not everyone is going to hear all. AS the passages above mention.

          thefather

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          • #20
            Re: Church of England: Atheism is "Cool"??

            Who cares if it's cool? Johnny Cash was cool. Steve McQueen was cool. So were Paul Newman, Bruce Lee, James Brown... see what I'm getting at here? All of these people are being tortured in Hell.

            The word does appear in the Bible, once in Genesis and once in Luke, referring to the air and a tongue, respectively. Not the kind of "cool" the archbishop is talking about. If it doesn't matter to God, it doesn't matter.
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            • #21
              Re: Church of England: Atheism is "Cool"??

              Originally posted by ThelmaSue View Post
              That's why AMERICA is GOD'S FAVORITE COUNTRY!

              2 Corinthians 6:14

              Proverbs 3:5-7

              God Bless America!!

              Thank you Jesus!
              no its not the uk is

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              • #22
                Re: Church of England: Atheism is "Cool"??

                Originally posted by jessicababe View Post
                no its not the uk is
                It most certainly isn't.

                How can it be when we are afflicted with Millibands and Camerons?

                How can it be when our children increasingly reach for weapons and gang culture and drugs rather than their Bibles?

                How can it be when we have drive by shootings and AIDS and queers everywhere?

                God hates our country and is smiting us left right and centre and nobody is listening to the signs!
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                Isaiah 34:6 The sword of the LORD is filled with blood, it is made fat with fatness, and with the blood of lambs and goats, with the fat of the kidneys of rams: for the LORD hath a sacrifice in Bozrah, and a great slaughter in the land of Idumea.

                John 5:46,47 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me. But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

                Join me in scoffing at backwards Muslims clinging to their beliefs in the face of the evidence!
                The truth about volcanos
                Sex and debauchery in public schools
                Faith wins over science (explained for even the very stupid)
                God Cures AIDS - GLORY!
                Desert whale bones prove Great Flood once and for all.

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                • #23
                  Re: Church of England: Atheism is "Cool"??

                  Originally posted by jessicababe View Post
                  no its not the uk is
                  You know you are wrong. I, like any right thinking person am ashamed to call myself British. The UK has turned its back on God. We produce atheist trash such as Hawkins, Hitchens and Dawkins who spread their vile lies over the whole of God's flat Earth. We have the Church of England who allow sodomites to marry.

                  Leviticus 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

                  We have female vicars,

                  1 Timothy 2:12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. 13For Adam was first formed, then Eve.

                  Our younger women our a generation of whores. The average British woman is a fat, tattooed slut. I remember as a child my father taking me to the circus to laugh at the 'fat, tattooed lady', now they are everywhere!

                  Every Brit wishes that they were American. We are unofficially the 51st state of the US, I cannot wait for the day it is official and I know that in your heart you feel the same.

                  YIC

                  Jack
                  Genesis 22:2 And he said, Take now thy son, thine only son Isaac, whom thou lovest, and get thee into the land of Moriah; and offer him there for a burnt offering upon one of the mountains which I will tell thee of.

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                  I know God wouldn't let me believe in Him if He didn't exist.

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                  • #24
                    Re: Church of England: Atheism is "Cool"??

                    Originally posted by Redeemed Papist View Post
                    It most certainly isn't.

                    How can it be when we are afflicted with Millibands and Camerons?

                    How can it be when our children increasingly reach for weapons and gang culture and drugs rather than their Bibles?

                    How can it be when we have drive by shootings and AIDS and queers everywhere?

                    God hates our country and is smiting us left right and centre and nobody is listening to the signs!
                    yes but america had 9/11 gang cultre shootings ,uch worse than the uk and millibands and camrons are alright so are gays

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                    • #25
                      Re: Church of England: Atheism is "Cool"??

                      Originally posted by jessicababe View Post
                      millibands and camrons are alright so are gays
                      Just because you think they are alright does not necessarily make them sodomites. Although they probably are.

                      YIC

                      Jack
                      Genesis 22:2 And he said, Take now thy son, thine only son Isaac, whom thou lovest, and get thee into the land of Moriah; and offer him there for a burnt offering upon one of the mountains which I will tell thee of.

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                      I know God wouldn't let me believe in Him if He didn't exist.

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                      • #26
                        Re: Church of England: Atheism is "Cool"??

                        Originally posted by jessicababe View Post
                        yes but america had 9/11 gang cultre shootings ,uch worse than the uk...
                        Would you mind to elaborate this part, please? What are "9/11 gang cultre shootings"?

                        YiC, DUH
                        Ask not what your Lord can do for you. Ask what you can do for your Lord.


                        ... your choice entirely (Matthew 12:30)

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                        • #27
                          Re: Church of England: Atheism is "Cool"??

                          Atheism is not "cool" for thou who praise it shall suffer eternally in the eternal hotness of hell.
                          "He that is wounded in the stones, or hath his privy member cut off, shall not enter into the congregation of the Lord."
                          Deuteronomy 23:1

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                          • #28
                            Re: Church of England: Atheism is "Cool"??

                            Originally posted by Magnus Democritus View Post
                            Atheism is not "cool" for thou who praise it shall suffer eternally in the eternal hotness of hell.
                            Yes friend, you are correct but how about introducing yourself on the introduction thread?

                            YIC

                            Jack
                            Genesis 22:2 And he said, Take now thy son, thine only son Isaac, whom thou lovest, and get thee into the land of Moriah; and offer him there for a burnt offering upon one of the mountains which I will tell thee of.

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                            I know God wouldn't let me believe in Him if He didn't exist.

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                            • #29
                              Re: Church of England: Atheism is "Cool"??

                              Sorry brother. I have hurried in an attempt to stop those baby-eaters atheists.
                              I shall introduce myself in the appropriated place right now.
                              "He that is wounded in the stones, or hath his privy member cut off, shall not enter into the congregation of the Lord."
                              Deuteronomy 23:1

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