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  • Levi Jones
    Pastor of Hermeneutics and Apologetics
    Bathed in Christ's Precious Blood
    Apostle to the Cactuses, Tumbleweeds and Jackrabbits
     
    • Jul 2009
    • 13930

    #1

    Atheists can never be Real Americans!

    Whilst reveling in the latest controversy between the forces of the great and wonderful Pastor John Hagee of Cornerstone Church and the evil atheists, I ran across this uplifting piece of prose.

    To give you some background, In a sermon from last Sunday, Pastor Hagee reminded us all that this is a Christian nation. He went on to say that if the atheists don't like it, they can leave the country.

    There's a flight leaving every hour from this country. Maybe they should just jump on a plane and leave America!



    Now here we have a highly respected journalist in a highly respected (if only slightly left of center) publication such as The World Net Daily lauding the Pastor's efforts

    You think Hagee is some fringe lunatic? Tell that to his 20,000 strong congregation in San Antonio, TX. Hagee is the face and voice of Christianity in America.

    I think many of you have heard me preach know where I borrow a lot of my style from.

    Pastor John Hagee, senior pastor of San Antonio’s Cornerstone Church, is making People for the America Way very angry with some comments about atheists.
    Here’s what he said in a talk captured on YouTube by the group: “This nation was not built for atheists or by atheists. It was built by Christian people who believed in the Word of God. To the atheists watching this telecast, if our belief in God offends you, move. There are planes leaving every hour on the hour, going every place on planet earth. Get on one, we don’t want you and we won’t miss you, I promise you.”


    That may sound harsh, coming from a Christian minister of a mega-church with 20,000 members.
    But let me take what Hagee said a step further.
    Atheists can’t be real Americans in the truest sense of the word – and People for the American Way should be renamed People for the un-American Way.
    Let me explain why.
    America was founded on a creedal statement. It can be found in the Declaration of Independence:
    “We hold these truths to be self-evident: That all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness; that, to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed; that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.”
    Thus, America was founded on the principle that the Creator God endowed men with certain unalienable rights. This statement formed the basis of self-governance in a world ruled by kings and tyrants. It is the principle that set America apart from the rest of the world.
    It’s important to note that the founders – and most of the 2 million people living in America at the time of the founding – were Christians who believed in the One True God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. They weren’t referring to any other god. They rejected Allah. They rejected paganism in all its forms. They rejected atheism.
    America was thus founded as a Judeo-Christian nation, tolerant of other views, but with the understanding that only a moral people governing themselves to the best of their ability under God’s eternal laws were capable of maintaining the liberty established uniquely under this covenant.
    While I know some atheists and agnostics who live in America as productive citizens and don’t try to impose their views and their will on others, that’s exactly what groups like People for the American Way do.
    They seek a fundamental transformation of America away from the principles and the creed that set it apart.
    Likewise, at the end of the day, anyone who doesn’t believe in the Creator God of our founders is, at best, enjoying the blessings established by that national creed without acceptance of it.
    There’s an old saying: “America: Love it or leave it.”
    And never before in our history has that adage made more sense.
    There are lots of places one can live in this world. If you want to live under Islamic Shariah law, there are plenty of countries to choose from. If you want to live in a secular society, you can take your pick of dozens of nations. If you want to live as a Hindu, India awaits you. If you want to live as a Buddhist, take your pick of Buddhist countries. If you want to live in an officially atheist nation, move to China or Cuba or North Korea.
    But if you want to live in the freest nation on earth, understand why it has been that way for 230-plus years. It’s because of the principles of self-governance that only work in a society of responsible, moral people accountable to the teachings of the One True Creator God found in the Bible.
    The day Christians and Jews are outnumbered in America by non-believers is the day the American Dream dies.
    So, I’m with Hagee.
    You and me both, brother!
    Christians are superior because we possess an understanding that unbelievers lack. It is through the Power of Jesus only the converted mind is able to understand what is going on in the world; what the Communists are really up to; what Satan's intentions are. Most unbelievers do not even believe in Satan and cannot understand his tactics.
  • Jedediah
    True Christian™ Creation Scientist
    Fisher of Men
    True Christian™
    • Feb 2010
    • 6824

    #2
    Re: Atheists can never be Real Americans!

    Amen! I say we give them a parachute, push them out over the ocean and wish them luck in trying to "evolve" gills and fins. As Christians, we know such things are only possible through the power of Jesus (Philippians 4:13). Maybe by holding their feet to the flames this way, we would be able to win their souls for His Kingdom, thereby multiplying our blessings in Heaven.

    Christianity is what makes America the greatest nation the world has ever known or ever will know, and atheists have done absolutely nothing to contribute to our greatness. Atheists add nothing of value to society. They are nothing but parasites who benefit from everything our Evangelical Founders built, but who do nothing to add energy back into the system. They've been given ample time to pull their heads out of their asses and get right with Jesus, and I say it's time to round them up and kick them all the hell out.
    II Thessalonians 1:7-9
    And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
    In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
    Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power



    The man who is being progressively sanctified will inescapably sanctify his home, school, politics, economics, science, and all things else by understanding and interpreting all things in terms of the Word of God and by bringing all things under the Dominion of Christ the King. -R.J. Rushdoony

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    • Pastor Ezekiel
      Putting the "stud" back in Bible Study
       
      • Sep 2006
      • 78556

      #3
      Re: Atheists can never be Real Americans!

      "Non-believers can't be considered citizens or patriots...this is one nation under God." --George H. W. Bush, 41st President of the United States
      Who Will Jesus Damn?

      Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

      Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

      Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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      • Pastor Ed Lowman
        Southern Hospitality Exemplified
        Always kind and loving
        True Christian™
        • Sep 2011
        • 1838

        #4
        Re: Atheists can never be Real Americans!

        Originally posted by Pastor Ezekiel View Post
        "Non-believers can't be considered citizens or patriots...this is one nation under God." --George H. W. Bush, 41st President of the United States
        I think about this marvelous quote on atheists every time I dial the FBI to report one.

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        • Redeemed Papist
          Former Mary Hailer who has seen The Light(c)
          True Christian™
          • Jul 2011
          • 10409

          #5
          Re: Atheists can never be Real Americans!

          Americans don't realise how lucky they are to live in a country that still tolerates people being Christians and the right that comes with that to shun and exclude unbelievers.

          Living in the godless UK as I do I'll paint you a picture of things to come if people like Pastor Hagee are not heeded.

          Atheists walking around proud and unchallenged. In the UK if I so chose (the horror!) I could wear a T shirt proclaiming my filthy unbelief and not one person would be likely to even verbally challenge me about my hatred of God. What's more, if a God-fearing shop owner decided to not serve me I would have the law on my side - and it would be enforced! Children at school openly declare their atheism and are applauded for it. There's not even a whisper of God in a science classroom.

          Don't get me started on queers.

          Heathens build their silly temples and mosques everywhere and are celebrated as part of a multicultural society. Church leaders pathetically talk of tolerance and even hint that they think they all worship the same God but in different ways in order to weasel out of their responsibilities.

          We could even have an atheist as Prime Minister without public outcry and open atheistic faggots are celebrities and nobody bats an eyelid.

          So do you want to live in a society where good God-fearing folks like Pastor Hagee are considered to be wayward cranks; relics of a bygone time?

          I'll take that as a "No!"
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          Isaiah 34:6 The sword of the LORD is filled with blood, it is made fat with fatness, and with the blood of lambs and goats, with the fat of the kidneys of rams: for the LORD hath a sacrifice in Bozrah, and a great slaughter in the land of Idumea.

          John 5:46,47 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me. But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

          Join me in scoffing at backwards Muslims clinging to their beliefs in the face of the evidence!
          The truth about volcanos
          Sex and debauchery in public schools
          Faith wins over science (explained for even the very stupid)
          God Cures AIDS - GLORY!
          Desert whale bones prove Great Flood once and for all.

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          • TheOnly1ne
            Confirmed Enemy of God
            • Jun 2012
            • 15

            #6
            Re: Atheists can never be Real Americans!

            Originally posted by Redeemed Papist View Post
            Americans don't realise how lucky they are to live in a country that still tolerates people being Christians and the right that comes with that to shun and exclude unbelievers.

            Living in the godless UK as I do I'll paint you a picture of things to come if people like Pastor Hagee are not heeded.

            Atheists walking around proud and unchallenged. In the UK if I so chose (the horror!) I could wear a T shirt proclaiming my filthy unbelief and not one person would be likely to even verbally challenge me about my hatred of God. What's more, if a God-fearing shop owner decided to not serve me I would have the law on my side - and it would be enforced! Children at school openly declare their atheism and are applauded for it. There's not even a whisper of God in a science classroom.

            Don't get me started on queers.

            Heathens build their silly temples and mosques everywhere and are celebrated as part of a multicultural society. Church leaders pathetically talk of tolerance and even hint that they think they all worship the same God but in different ways in order to weasel out of their responsibilities.

            We could even have an atheist as Prime Minister without public outcry and open atheistic faggots are celebrities and nobody bats an eyelid.

            So do you want to live in a society where good God-fearing folks like Pastor Hagee are considered to be wayward cranks; relics of a bygone time?

            I'll take that as a "No!"
            Atheists hate god, we don't believe in god. Hating something that doesn't exist is just how we roll.

            Christians say atheists hate everything. We do. We hate most things. We are the most intolerant people, because we are somewhat of a mental. Only 1 out of 10 people are stupid atheists and we have to deal with it. I hate christians, muslims, jews, atheists, hindus and everything else. I really love furries.

            NOW CHRISTIANS ON THE OTHER HAND, LOVE EVERYONE. WHO DOESNT BELIVE IN THE SAME BOOK AS THEM?

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            • TheOnly1ne
              Confirmed Enemy of God
              • Jun 2012
              • 15

              #7
              Re: Atheists can never be Real Americans!

              Originally posted by TheOnly1ne View Post
              Atheists hate god, we don't believe in god. Hating something that doesn't exist is just how we roll.

              Christians say atheists hate everything. We do. We hate most things. We are the most intolerant people, because we are somewhat of a mental. Only 1 out of 10 people are stupid atheists and we have to deal with it. I hate christians, muslims, jews, atheists, hindus and everything else. I really love furries.

              NOW CHRISTIANS ON THE OTHER HAND, LOVE EVERYONE. WHO DOESNT BELIVE IN THE SAME BOOK AS THEM?
              Oh yeah. Go ahead and edit my post. CHRISTIANS LOVE EVERY ONE WHO DOES BELIVE IN THE SAME HEART WARMING BOOK AS THEM!

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              • James Hutchins
                True Christian™
                Just a Regular Nice Guy
                 
                • Jun 2009
                • 29453

                #8
                Re: Atheists can never be Real Americans!

                Originally posted by TheOnly1ne View Post
                Oh yeah. Go ahead and edit my post. CHRISTIANS LOVE EVERY ONE WHO DOES BELIVE IN THE SAME HEART WARMING BOOK AS THEM!
                Friend, you seem to be arguing with yourself. Would you like a private room in QT?
                Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
                Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
                Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
                Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
                Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
                Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

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                • TheOnly1ne
                  Confirmed Enemy of God
                  • Jun 2012
                  • 15

                  #9
                  Re: Atheists can never be Real Americans!

                  Originally posted by Pastor Ed Lowman View Post
                  I think about this marvelous quote on atheists every time I dial the FBI to report one.
                  all men are equally entitled to the free exercise of religion or lack thereof.
                  -The United States Constitution.

                  So the FBI doesnt give a shit. What are they going to do? Kill us? For knowing the truth?

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                  • Sideshow
                    Unsaved Trash, Rabid godmocker
                    • Jun 2012
                    • 11

                    #10
                    Re: Atheists can never be Real Americans!

                    Wow, a glutunus pig (hagee) is so right. We should only allow one form of religion in our country. If Athiest are not American are they still people? If not then America is shrinking at an alarming rate.

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                    • Scummy Atheist Troll
                      Confirmed Enemy of God
                      BANNED from Landover -- Aeternal Damnation Assured
                      • Jun 2012
                      • 15

                      #11
                      Re: Atheists can never be Real Americans!

                      Originally posted by Pastor Ed Lowman View Post
                      I think about this marvelous quote on atheists every time I dial the FBI to report one.
                      Amen

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                      • Rev. M. Rodimer
                        Honorary True Christian™
                        Forum Member
                        • May 2008
                        • 13996

                        #12
                        Re: Atheists can never be Real Americans!

                        Thank you for quoting that wonderful article, Brother!

                        I do have to ask if someone has mentioned to Mr. Farah that there is a large black caterpillar on his lip. It's kinda gross.
                        Bible boring? Nonsense!
                        Try Bible in a Year with Brother V, or join Shirlee and the kids as they discuss Real Bible Stories!
                        You can't be a Christian if you don't know God's Word!

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                        • Pastor Ezekiel
                          Putting the "stud" back in Bible Study
                           
                          • Sep 2006
                          • 78556

                          #13
                          Re: Atheists can never be Real Americans!

                          Originally posted by TheOnly1ne View Post
                          Atheists hate god, we don't believe in god. Hating something that doesn't exist is just how we roll.

                          Christians say atheists hate everything. We do. We hate most things. We are the most intolerant people, because we are somewhat of a mental. Only 1 out of 10 people are stupid atheists and we have to deal with it. I hate christians, muslims, jews, atheists, hindus and everything else. I really love furries.

                          NOW CHRISTIANS ON THE OTHER HAND, LOVE EVERYONE. WHO DOESNT BELIVE IN THE SAME BOOK AS THEM?
                          Originally posted by TheOnly1ne View Post
                          Oh yeah. Go ahead and edit my post. CHRISTIANS LOVE EVERY ONE WHO DOES BELIVE IN THE SAME HEART WARMING BOOK AS THEM!
                          Originally posted by TheOnly1ne View Post
                          all men are equally entitled to the free exercise of religion or lack thereof.
                          -The United States Constitution.

                          So the FBI doesnt give a shit. What are they going to do? Kill us? For knowing the truth?
                          I hope everyone pays special attention to the pure unadulterated hatred spewing from this demon's mouth. This is what atheism gets you. It turns your brain into a pus-filled rage machine, obsessed with nothing but taking narcotics, perverted gaysex, and hating Jesus with all your might.
                          Who Will Jesus Damn?

                          Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

                          Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

                          Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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                          • Scummy Atheist Troll
                            Confirmed Enemy of God
                            BANNED from Landover -- Aeternal Damnation Assured
                            • Jun 2012
                            • 15

                            #14
                            Re: Atheists can never be Real Americans!

                            Originally posted by Pastor Ezekiel View Post
                            I hope everyone pays special attention to the pure unadulterated hatred spewing from this demon's mouth. This is what atheism gets you. It turns your brain into a pus-filled rage machine, obsessed with nothing but taking narcotics, perverted gaysex, and hating Jesus with all your might.
                            No stupid. The post was edited by some Christian. We do NOT hate god. WE LOVE EVERYONE.

                            Christians do not. They hate gays, atheists, drug users. Im not a fan of drug users, but its fine if they do. Christians hate on us for hating, when we are the most tolerant. Christians are ignorant. They refuse to not believe because they will believe what some book says. Give me evidence of God. Then I will believe. Don't use the Bible as proof, because a book of religion can not prove the religion, it only can tell.

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                            • Rev. M. Rodimer
                              Honorary True Christian™
                              Forum Member
                              • May 2008
                              • 13996

                              #15
                              Re: Atheists can never be Real Americans!

                              What is going on here, the Special Olympics or something?
                              Bible boring? Nonsense!
                              Try Bible in a Year with Brother V, or join Shirlee and the kids as they discuss Real Bible Stories!
                              You can't be a Christian if you don't know God's Word!

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