[Gay Lord]

Re: Black Veil Brides: High Priests Of EMO Religion Now With Army To Kill All Christians

This is not true. They have helped me so much, I am not emo and I do not self harm. This band helps people to stop cutting and have saved lives. They have told people that a saviour will be there. You have really upset me...truly. So much so that I went through the trouble of creating this account just to reply. They are NOT satanic. They are lovely people. Go and talk to your daughter and apologise. "Stand up for what you believe in, even if it means standing alone."-Andy Biersack.

I love bvb, I'm kinda emo, but like, you gotta admit some of their music does sound quite satanic bc of screaming (knives and pens) however when you listen to the acoustic versions it truly is beautiful. shame people are so close minded.

[EmoTrash]

Re: Black Veil Brides: High Priests Of EMO Religion Now With Army To Kill All Christians

Oh friends, I am just so shaken deep in my spirit! I have learned that one of my children has been cutting herself. Yes, cutting herself. Like a side of beef. And why? Because she has been converted to the EMO Cult and now follows this ritual because she thinks it will bring her salvation from suffering. Or something. It doesn't make any sense. Clearly Satan is fighting for her soul.

I found out that a friend of hers gave her an old i.pod (a musical devise to listen to music without others knowing because the sound goes directly into the ear - I learned this is one of Satan's favorite tools). On this i.pod one band was featured more than any other: Black Veil Brides.

Being a good mother and diligent home educator, I did some internet research on this band. I spent at least three hours so now I know everything there is to know. This is what I can tell you:

This band is a leader in the EMO Religion. They are like the High Priests, but more than just High Priests, as they command an Army.






This Army's sole purpose is to turn people away from the Saving Grace of Jesus. The EMO theme is that everyone needs to DIE.
I read that even the South Park cartoon blamed them for all the suicidal girls and EMO problems in this country.

Leader encourages people to punch each other in the face
to show their allegiance and blind obedience.

Their music is all about hating life, cutting, suicide, being depressed, wearing rebellious hair in the face,
skinny jeans and black clothing. Also pornography:

I don't know what's more disturbing, the person licking blood off the ax,
or the person pleasuring himself watching it.




Please pray for us as we discipline our daughter properly.

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He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes.
Proverbs 13:24

Chasten thy son while there is hope, and let not thy soul spare for his crying.
Proverbs 19:18

Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die.
Proverbs 23:13

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Okay Black Veil Brides and emos:

Have you ever thought that your daughter might be cutting herself because of you? Self-Harm is not brought about because of music.

Watch this video
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[Brother Gonzalez]

Re: Black Veil Brides: High Priests Of EMO Religion Now With Army To Kill All Christians

Okay Black Veil Brides and emos:

Have you ever thought that your daughter might be cutting herself because of you? Self-Harm is not brought about because of music.

Watch this video
<<<possibly satanic videos removed by a friendly moderator>>>

My Emo friend (can I call you that?) your logic is flawled.


Of course the parents have something to do if their children cut themselves. But that is not an instant "non-guilty" veredict to the band.


But to support your point, yes, non True Christian parents are to be blamed for most of the problems of the children, the family, the country, the world.


Parents that do not beat their children with a rod (Proverbs 13:24) women that are not willing to be servants of their husbands (Ephesians 5:22-33).


A good Christian family with Christian values can be seen at distance, because the wife walks a few steps behind the husband, and the children are proudly black and blue all over.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Black Veil Brides: High Priests Of EMO Religion Now With Army To Kill All Christians

Okay Black Veil Brides and emos:
Have you ever thought that your daughter might be cutting herself because of you?

Nonsense. I'm not standing over her yelling at her to cut herself.

Self-Harm is not brought about because of music.

No, it's brought about because of Satan, and these singers are his agents. How else do you explain the evil that follows them?

Watch this video

No.

You watch this. It's good for the soul as well as the ears.

[EmoTrash]

Re: Black Veil Brides: High Priests Of EMO Religion Now With Army To Kill All Christians

My Emo friend (can I call you that?) your logic is flawled.


Of course the parents have something to do if their children cut themselves. But that is not an instant "non-guilty" veredict to the band.


But to support your point, yes, non True Christian parents are to be blamed for most of the problems of the children, the family, the country, the world.


Parents that do not beat their children with a rod (Proverbs 13:24) women that are not willing to be servants of their husbands (Ephesians 5:22-33).


A good Christian family with Christian values can be seen at distance, because the wife walks a few steps behind the husband, and the children are proudly black and blue all over.

Ok so beating your children is now child abuse under the Child Abuse Prevention and Treatment act (Public Law 93-247) You can read the law here:

http://uscode.house.gov/statutes/pl/93/247.pdf

But here is a definition of child abuse in the law:

For purposes of this Act the term "child abuse and neglect"means the physical or mental injury, sexual abuse, negligent treat-ment, or maltreatment of a child under the age of eighteen by a person who is responsible for the child's welfare under circumstances which indicate that the child's health or welfare is harmed or threatened

thereby, as determined in accordance with regulations prescribed by the Secretary.

So i would avoid beating your children if you dont want a long jail term. Also the first amendment does not allow you to break laws such as this even if you believe it is right.

Also beating your children wont help with self harm. I know cause i am recovering from self harm. This article has helped me stop: http://www.focusonthefamily.com/life...from-the-bible
The reason that many Christians consider self harm a sin is because in the bible there is mention of a false religion self harming. (See 1 Kings 18:24-29) However the bible also quotes:
“No temptation has overtaken you that is not common to man. God is faithful, and he will not let you be tempted beyond your ability, but with the temptation he will also provide the way of escape, that you may be able to endure it.” Corinthians 10:13

There is also a quote from the bible that says not to beat your children:
"A child’s heart has a tendency to do wrong, but the rod of discipline removes it far away from him." Proverbs 22:15

Fathers, don’t stir up anger in your children, but bring them up in the training and instruction of the Lord. Ephesians 6:4

Now on to the definition of Emo:
a style of rock music resembling punk but having more complex arrangements and lyrics that deal with more emotional subjects.

Emo music is not satanic. Nor does it state that one religion is better than another. Most Emo bands write their music to help others escape self harm and suicidal thoughts. For many people this music is the only place where they feel understood. If someone is self harming i would suggest going to see a psychologist, however I know your "True Christians" dont believe in that so just talking to your children and encouraging them to be more open and to pray for guidance is the next best thing.

Also here is a video about self harm from a Christian band

[EmoTrash]

Re: Black Veil Brides: High Priests Of EMO Religion Now With Army To Kill All Christians

My Emo friend (can I call you that?)

Yes you can.

[EmoTrash]

Re: Black Veil Brides: High Priests Of EMO Religion Now With Army To Kill All Christians

Ok so someone says that I cant call beating your children abuse if it falls under religious freedom. However Religious Freedom only means you have a right to believe whatever you what not that you can do whatever you what. Religion does not exempt you from the laws. There currently are not any supreme court cases involving Religion and child abuse there are some focused on other issues: see Reynolds v. US in which the supreme court ruled polygamy was not protected under the first amendment. They cited that there was a distinction between religious belief and action that flowed from religious belief. They stated that congress could not outlaw belief however they could outlaw action. Other supreme court cases involving Religious actions have cited this case including Davis v. Beason another case involving Religious Polygamy. In a supreme court case involving child abuse it is likely that one of these cases would be cited. A case in which Religous child abuse was an issue was in Kin Park Thaing's case where she took a plea deal and pleaded guilty to battery with moderate bodily injury.

Before you give me an infraction for stating the law saying "Our right to beat our children is protected under the first amendment" Do your research.

[EmoTrash]

Re: Black Veil Brides: High Priests Of EMO Religion Now With Army To Kill All Christians

Ok so beating your children is now child abuse under the Child Abuse Prevention and Treatment act (Public Law 93-247) You can read the law here:

http://uscode.house.gov/statutes/pl/93/247.pdf

But here is a definition of child abuse in the law:

For purposes of this Act the term "child abuse and neglect"means the physical or mental injury, sexual abuse, negligent treat-ment, or maltreatment of a child under the age of eighteen by a person who is responsible for the child's welfare under circumstances which indicate that the child's health or welfare is harmed or threatened

thereby, as determined in accordance with regulations prescribed by the Secretary.

So i would avoid beating your children if you dont want a long jail term. Also the first amendment does not allow you to break laws such as this even if you believe it is right.

Also beating your children wont help with self harm. I know cause i am recovering from self harm. This article has helped me stop: http://www.focusonthefamily.com/life...from-the-bible
The reason that many Christians consider self harm a sin is because in the bible there is mention of a false religion self harming. (See 1 Kings 18:24-29) However the bible also quotes:
“No temptation has overtaken you that is not common to man. God is faithful, and he will not let you be tempted beyond your ability, but with the temptation he will also provide the way of escape, that you may be able to endure it.” Corinthians 10:13

There is also a quote from the bible that says not to beat your children:
"A child’s heart has a tendency to do wrong, but the rod of discipline removes it far away from him." Proverbs 22:15

Fathers, don’t stir up anger in your children, but bring them up in the training and instruction of the Lord. Ephesians 6:4

Now on to the definition of Emo:
a style of rock music resembling punk but having more complex arrangements and lyrics that deal with more emotional subjects.

Emo music is not satanic. Nor does it state that one religion is better than another. Most Emo bands write their music to help others escape self harm and suicidal thoughts. For many people this music is the only place where they feel understood. If someone is self harming i would suggest going to see a psychologist, however I know your "True Christians" dont believe in that so just talking to your children and encouraging them to be more open and to pray for guidance is the next best thing.

Also here is a video about self harm from a Christian band

Some asshole took down my christian video without even watching it and replaced it with a shit video.

[Pim Pendergast]

Re: Black Veil Brides: High Priests Of EMO Religion Now With Army To Kill All Christians

Ok so someone says that I cant call beating your children abuse if it falls under religious freedom. However Religious Freedom only means you have a right to believe whatever you what not that you can do whatever you what. Religion does not exempt you from the laws. There currently are not any supreme court cases involving Religion and child abuse there are some focused on other issues: see Reynolds v. US in which the supreme court ruled polygamy was not protected under the first amendment. They cited that there was a distinction between religious belief and action that flowed from religious belief. They stated that congress could not outlaw belief however they could outlaw action. Other supreme court cases involving Religious actions have cited this case including Davis v. Beason another case involving Religious Polygamy. In a supreme court case involving child abuse it is likely that one of these cases would be cited. A case in which Religous child abuse was an issue was in Kin Park Thaing's case where she took a plea deal and pleaded guilty to battery with moderate bodily injury.

But the Bible says in three places that corporal punishment is beneficial to children, not harmful.

Pro 20:30 The blueness of a wound cleanseth away evil: so do stripes the inward parts of the belly.

Pro 22:15 Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child; but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him.

Prov 23:13-14
13 Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die.
14 Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell.

Don't you believe that God knows best?

[EmoTrash]

Re: Black Veil Brides: High Priests Of EMO Religion Now With Army To Kill All Christians

Nowhere near as hot as he'll be when skewered over Satan's barbecue grill and roasting for all eternity.

Again im going to ask why the idea of someone burning in hell gives you pleasure. And please explain why someone is going to hell for playing in a ***expletive*** heavy metal band? It just seems a little bit harsh especially since they just want to make people happy.

[Elmer G. White]

Re: Black Veil Brides: High Priests Of EMO Religion Now With Army To Kill All Christians

Again im going to ask why the idea of someone burning in hell gives you pleasure. And please explain why someone is going to hell for playing in a ***expletive*** heavy metal band? It just seems a little bit harsh especially since they just want to make people happy.

And therein lies one of the problems. It is not useful and it may indeed be detrimental to be happy here on Earth.

Luke 14:26
If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.

Everyone goes to Hell by default. Only by accepting Jesus Christ and following in His footsteps (Ecclesiastes 12:13) can Heaven be attained. Words and lyrics that fail to praise Jesus are distractions.

1 Corinthians 7:35
And this I speak for your own profit; not that I may cast a snare upon you, but for that which is comely, and that ye may attend upon the Lord without distraction.

We've been through this before. You should not fall into distractions. Based on the verse above it is a sin. Based on the Bible that sin is as bad as rape, murder, or wanton genocide that has not been called by Jesus.

James 2:10
For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

We (and perhaps you if you Repent) still have plenty of time (=Eternity) to be happy in Heaven!

Revelation 21:4
And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.




Yours in Christ,

Elmer

[Brother Gonzalez]

Re: Black Veil Brides: High Priests Of EMO Religion Now With Army To Kill All Christians

Ok so someone says that I cant call beating your children abuse if it falls under religious freedom. However Religious Freedom only means you have a right to believe whatever you what not that you can do whatever you what. Religion does not exempt you from the laws. There currently are not any supreme court cases involving Religion and child abuse there are some focused on other issues: see Reynolds v. US in which the supreme court ruled polygamy was not protected under the first amendment. They cited that there was a distinction between religious belief and action that flowed from religious belief. They stated that congress could not outlaw belief however they could outlaw action. Other supreme court cases involving Religious actions have cited this case including Davis v. Beason another case involving Religious Polygamy. In a supreme court case involving child abuse it is likely that one of these cases would be cited. A case in which Religous child abuse was an issue was in Kin Park Thaing's case where she took a plea deal and pleaded guilty to battery with moderate bodily injury.

Before you give me an infraction for stating the law saying "Our right to beat our children is protected under the first amendment" Do your research.

Problem is, I abide the law. But I don't live in the Godly USA. If you won't be so self centered, you'll know that.
So I do not care about the first amendment. Nor the second.


Are you trying to force the US law on me? Are you a right-wing imperialist twat? I am willing to defend my freedom, given by God Himself, even if I have to die doing it. God is waiting for me in Heaven and I gladly go there with Him and Jesus, who is Him but it is not.

[EmoTrash]

Re: Black Veil Brides: High Priests Of EMO Religion Now With Army To Kill All Christians

And therein lies one of the problems. It is not useful and it may indeed be detrimental to be happy here on Earth.


Everyone goes to Hell by default. Only by accepting Jesus Christ and following in His footsteps (Ecclesiastes 12:13) can Heaven be attained. Words and lyrics that fail to praise Jesus are distractions.

We've been through this before. You should not fall into distractions. Based on the verse above it is a sin. Based on the Bible that sin is as bad as rape, murder, or wanton genocide that has not been called by Jesus.

We (and perhaps you if you Repent) still have plenty of time (=Eternity) to be happy in Heaven!

Yours in Christ,

Elmer

Ok you are really twisting the bible there.


John 16:33 - These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.

There you go a bible verse that says to be happy.

[EmoTrash]

Re: Black Veil Brides: High Priests Of EMO Religion Now With Army To Kill All Christians

But the Bible says in three places that corporal punishment is beneficial to children, not harmful.

Pro 20:30 The blueness of a wound cleanseth away evil: so do stripes the inward parts of the belly.

Pro 22:15 Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child; but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him.

Prov 23:13-14
13 Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die.
14 Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell.

Don't you believe that God knows best?

Tell that to the judge when you get arrested.

[EmoTrash]

Re: Black Veil Brides: High Priests Of EMO Religion Now With Army To Kill All Christians

Praise indeed, sister Mary. You know, it is easy to forget what these children REALLY are. Remembering only a few hundred years ago we'd be dragging them out of our towns and stoning them to death, or burning them alive for witchcraft. All according to Bible teachings.

It's your sort of no-nonsense, no BS, True Christian™ attitude that may just get through to these children. They don't need any liberal touchy-feely namby-pamby sissy new-age therapy crap. Sitting around like a bunch of hippies, talking about their 'feelings', like gaggle of teenage girls. Having false Christian preachers being 'nice' to them, telling them that being an emo and cutting yourself is fine and dandy, pussyfooting around the subject trying not 'hurt' their pathetic 'feelings', when what they are actually doing is spitting on Jesus and hating on God! "Boo-hoo-hoo .. I dress like a tomboy and kiss other girls and write sad poems 'cause no-one really loves me".... who cares?! It's about time parents give these losers something REAL to cry about! You know, the world would be a MUCH better place if more people put these whiny-ass gothic emo fags in their places.

Tell it like it is, sister. Your Husband taught you well! Glory!

You are retarded when it comes to the issue of self harm. Therapy works, and you should not deny someone who needs it. Also when parents beat their children self harm becomes worse. Self harm is an addiction and a behavior and can only be corrected over time. Cutting yourself is not hating God he has nothing to do with it. I certainly am glad that im not one of your children or i would have many more self harm scars on me. Im not saying God cant help cutters, you just cant blame the person who is cutting themselves. It does help relieve emotional pain by releasing chemicals that make you feel better. Do your research "Pastor" Fakeman