[Brother Temperance]

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I didnt say that I reject God and that i seek to turn His order on it's head.....why would i want to do that?

Here is what The Holy Bible has to say about gender roles:
Genesis 3:16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

1st Corinthians 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.
...8 For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man.
9 Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man.

1st Corinthians 14:34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.

Ephesians 5:22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.

Do you accept these words or don't you?

[Nancy (Quarantined)]

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Here is what The Holy Bible has to say about gender roles:
Genesis 3:16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

1st Corinthians 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.
...8 For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man.
9 Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man.

1st Corinthians 14:34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.

Ephesians 5:22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.

Do you accept these words or don't you?

Easiest thing is just to never get married or have kids:-)

[Old Iron Crotch]

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Here is what The Holy Bible has to say about gender roles:
Genesis 3:16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

1st Corinthians 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.
...8 For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man.
9 Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man.

1st Corinthians 14:34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.

Ephesians 5:22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.

Do you accept these words or don't you?

Nope

[Nancy (Quarantined)]

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Nope

they just trying to twist those quotes to mean something else

[Bobby-Joe]

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they just trying to twist those quotes to mean something else

How are we twisting those quotes to mean anything but what they say? Since we are giving the capture and verse it is easy enough for you to get off your backside and look them up yourself if you think we are somehow wrong.

More likely you disagree with God's words here and are outraged we are not trying to twist His words to suit your conceits. Well tough luck on that because we TRUE Christians are here to witness THE TRUTH of The Bible, in its entirety.

But I suppose Nancy it is easier with you false Christians to stop your ears at the Holy Word of God and pretend you aren't listing.

[Old Iron Crotch]

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they just trying to twist those quotes to mean something else

Honey, if these "pastors" were any more twisted, you could oull a cork out of a wine bottle with them.

[Brother Temperance]

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Honey, if these "pastors" were any more twisted, you could oull a cork out of a wine bottle with them.

All we are doing is posting quotes directly from Holy Scripture, with the minimum of commentary. I can't help noticing that neither you or Jane has taken up the challenge of showing how these words can be taken as meaning anything other than what they say. If we're twisting them, surely you two geniuses can show us the correct meaning of those verses?

[Old Iron Crotch]

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All we are doing is posting quotes directly from Holy Scripture, with the minimum of commentary. I can't help noticing that neither you or Jane has taken up the challenge of showing how these words can be taken as meaning anything other than what they say. If we're twisting them, surely you two geniuses can show us the correct meaning of those verses?

Paul's letters were written to specific churches to address specific issues within those churches. They are not universal law.

[Brother Temperance]

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Paul's letters were written to specific churches to address specific issues within those churches. They are not universal law.

1) Yes, Churches that follow God's word. We follow God's word, so they are universal law.
2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.
2) And as for the verse from Genesis?

[Old Iron Crotch]

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1) Yes, Churches that follow God's word. We follow God's word, so they are universal law.
2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.
2) And as for the verse from Genesis?

I don't take Genesis (or much of anything else in the Bible) literally.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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Paul's letters were written to specific churches to address specific issues within those churches. They are not universal law.

I don't take Genesis (or much of anything else in the Bible) literally.

Then why do you persist in throwing your false bible "spin" in our faces? If you reject Christ and His Word, then what are you doing here? What do you even go on living for? Without the Bible, you have nothing.

[roserougesang]

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Without the Bible, you have nothing.

Not true.
Without the Bible I have:

Lots of interesting books and movies to read and watch
Lots of good friends
Good self-esteem and contentment with self
A loving family
Good health
and much more.....

[Bobby-Joe]

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Not true.
Without the Bible I have:

Lots of interesting books and movies to read and watch
Lots of good friends
Good self-esteem and contentment with self
A loving family
Good health
and much more.....

Well see how many good books and movies you reading when you are on your knees in a burka next to your Jihadist husband that you are forced to marry when your liberal friends surrender to Iran. I am sure your self esteem will soar when you are being beaten like a dog every time you speak out of line. Being kept as a house pet by fanatical theocrats is a fitting fate for someone who has rejected Christ's love.

Face it, you atheists don't have the moral courage that Christianities Culture of Life® gives to go threw the kind of genocidal total war needed to protect The West from the terrorists.

[roserougesang]

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I am sure your self esteem will soar when you are being beaten like a dog every time you speak out of line.

Isn't that what supposedly happens to wives in 'True Christian' households?

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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Isn't that what supposedly happens to wives in 'True Christian' households?

But we do it for Jesus. Big difference there, harlot. Are you that blind?