[Didymus Much]

Re: POLL: The Worst False Religion?

No no no. You've got it all wrong. We do believe she died, but when she died her body and soul was lifted up into heaven. And, what you were saying about her being able to withstand the deadly pressure, etc., well, God can do anything, even defy pressure change, etc. God is stronger than anything. The comment about Padre Pio is false. He really had what is known as the stigmata. Some people that despised him falsely accused him of putting carbolic acid on himself to get those wounds instead of it being the stigmata. It was later verified by the Catholic Church that he indeed had the stigmata, so whatever you've heard about him putting the carbolic acid on himself, it's false.

And all of that is based on what? The Bible? No, some guys in dresses with funny hats in Rome.

Why don't you trust Jesus? If He exists, He's probably pretty sad about it.

[Lauren the drunken mick]

Re: POLL: The Worst False Religion?

Catholics believe Mary never died, and was instead swooped up into Heaven on some solid cloud-lift. Apparently her human body was super-fortified to withstand the otherwise deadly change in pressure and temperature in space as she supposedly floated up, up, and away. According to the papists, she has the supernatural ability to hear, listen, and answer the prayers of the faithful, as well as animate her bleeding face all over superstitious, impoverished, and gullible communities throughout the Third World. At one point, she was bumped out of popularity by "Padre Pio," the masochistic priest who burned the skin and meat off his hands with carbolic acid in order to put on a good show for the gullible.

No no no. You've got it all wrong. We do believe she died, but when she died her body and soul was lifted up into heaven. And, what you were saying about her being able to withstand the deadly pressure, etc., well, God can do anything, even defy pressure change, etc. God is stronger than anything. The comment about Padre Pio is false. He really had what is known as the stigmata. Some people that despised him falsely accused him of putting carbolic acid on himself to get those wounds instead of it being the stigmata. It was later verified by the Catholic Church that he indeed had the stigmata, so whatever you've heard about him putting the carbolic acid on himself, it's false.

[Attila's Wife]

Re: POLL: The Worst False Religion?

Catholics believe Mary never died, and was instead swooped up into Heaven on some solid cloud-lift. Apparently her human body was super-fortified to withstand the otherwise deadly change in pressure and temperature in space as she supposedly floated up, up, and away. According to the papists, she has the supernatural ability to hear, listen, and answer the prayers of the faithful, as well as animate her bleeding face all over superstitious, impoverished, and gullible communities throughout the Third World. At one point, she was bumped out of popularity by "Padre Pio," the masochistic priest who burned the skin and meat off his hands with carbolic acid in order to put on a good show for the gullible.

Wow, Sister! Just - er - wow! How can they believe this rubbish? It makes me glad that I was not raised a Fenian.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: POLL: The Worst False Religion?

Typo for she was? Or do you really believe her to be immortal?

Catholics believe Mary never died, and was instead swooped up into Heaven on some solid cloud-lift. Apparently her human body was super-fortified to withstand the otherwise deadly change in pressure and temperature in space as she supposedly floated up, up, and away. According to the papists, she has the supernatural ability to hear, listen, and answer the prayers of the faithful, as well as animate her bleeding face all over superstitious, impoverished, and gullible communities throughout the Third World. At one point, she was bumped out of popularity by "Padre Pio," the masochistic priest who burned the skin and meat off his hands with carbolic acid in order to put on a good show for the gullible.

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: POLL: The Worst False Religion?

verb: respect
admire (someone or something) deeply, as a result of their abilities, qualities, or achievements.
synonyms: esteem, admire, think highly of, have a high opinion of, hold in high regard, hold in (high) esteem, look up to, revere, reverence, honor.

Not the same thing as worship

Hey, I respect Rush Limbaugh but I don't pray to a statue of him.

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: POLL: The Worst False Religion?

Ever heard of the Assumption of Mary?

Yeah, according to the cracker-crunchers she went to Heaven around, oh, 1950. I bet she was putting out a powerful odor by then!



Yours in Christ (NOT EASY-BAKE OVEN MARY),

Z. Smyth

[Lauren the drunken mick]

Re: POLL: The Worst False Religion?

Hmm, who should I believe: the dictionary, or some anonymous guy on the internets...?

verb: respect
admire (someone or something) deeply, as a result of their abilities, qualities, or achievements.
synonyms: esteem, admire, think highly of, have a high opinion of, hold in high regard, hold in (high) esteem, look up to, revere, reverence, honor.

Not the same thing as worship

[Didymus Much]

Re: POLL: The Worst False Religion?

Don't you know that respect and honor and different than worship?

As the dictionary says, once you bring the "religious" bit into it, there is no difference.

So no response to Mrs. E's pointing out the PRAYERS TO MARY?

Allow me to revisit one of them:

Prayer to Mary, Our Lady of Walsingham

O Mary, recall the solemn moment when Jesus,
your divine Son, dying on the Cross,
confided us to your maternal care.
You are our Mother, we desire ever to remain your devout children.
Let us therefore feel the effects of your powerful intercession with Jesus Christ.
make your Name again glorious in the shrine once renowned throughout England by your visits, favours, and many miracles.
Pray, O holy Mother of God, for the conversion of England, restoration of the sick, consolation for the afflicted, repentance of sinners, peace to the departed.
O blessed Mary, Mother of God, our Lady of Walsingham, intercede for us.
Amen.

Now why don't you go and check your Bible to see what it says about Mary's "intercession" with Jesus? Or what it says about her being immortal? Or what it says about her also being immaculately conceived? Or what it says about her rising to Heaven?

[Lauren the drunken mick]

Re: POLL: The Worst False Religion?

Typo for she was? Or do you really believe her to be immortal?

Ever heard of the Assumption of Mary?

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: POLL: The Worst False Religion?

Don't you know that respect and honor and different than worship?

Hmm, who should I believe: the dictionary, or some anonymous guy on the internets...?

[Lauren the drunken mick]

Re: POLL: The Worst False Religion?

The dictionary begs to differ.



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Don't you know that respect and honor and different than worship?

[Attila's Wife]

Re: POLL: The Worst False Religion?

Well, they do pray to her, Mrs. Hun, so they are either a) so stupid to think that she is somehow immortal/undead, or b) so stupid that they pray to a dead corpse. I dunno which one of these two options is worse. -.

Makes no difference in the end, as either way they are "so stupid".

They can't be taking her too seriously though, if they talk about "her" and "she" without capital letters.

[Basilissa]

Re: POLL: The Worst False Religion?

Typo for she was? Or do you really believe her to be immortal?

Well, they do pray to her, Mrs. Hun, so they are either a) so stupid to think that she is somehow immortal/undead, or b) so stupid that they pray to a dead corpse. I dunno which one of these two options is worse.

Either way, all Mary worshipers are on their way to .

[Attila's Wife]

Re: POLL: The Worst False Religion?

Us Catholics don't worship Mary. We honor and respect her because she's the Mother of God.

Typo for she was? Or do you really believe her to be immortal?

[Didymus Much]

Re: POLL: The Worst False Religion?

Us Catholics don't worship Mary. We honor and respect her because she's the Mother of God.

The dictionary begs to differ.

wor·ship [wur-ship] Show IPA

noun

1. reverent honor and homage paid to God or a sacred personage, or to any object regarded as sacred.
2. formal or ceremonious rendering of such honor and homage: They attended worship this morning.
3. adoring reverence or regard: excessive worship of business success.
4. the object of adoring reverence or regard.
5. ( initial capital letter ) British . a title of honor used in addressing or mentioning certain magistrates and others of high rank or station (usually preceded by Your, His, or Her ).

verb (used with object), wor·shiped, wor·ship·ing or ( especially British ) wor·shipped, wor·ship·ping.

6. to render religious reverence and homage to.
7. to feel an adoring reverence or regard for (any person or thing).

verb (used without object), wor·shiped, wor·ship·ing or ( especially British ) wor·shipped, wor·ship·ping.

8. to render religious reverence and homage, as to a deity.
9. to attend services of divine worship.
10. to feel an adoring reverence or regard.

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