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  • Meek and Humble
    Biblical Poet, Warrior and Scholar
    Biblical Black Belt
    Jr. Pastor
    True Christian™
    • Dec 2008
    • 6197

    #781
    Re: POLL: The Worst False Religion?

    Originally posted by AProudMuslim View Post
    you guys are piffleed up. Doesn't god teach live and let live? at least that is what he teaches us "moose-limbs". we are also taught to respect your piffleed up people, but this site made me lose a lot of respect for Christianity as a whole. everything from this smiley : to the way you ass wipes talk about god like you know everything is wrong, and you will all burn in hell. if you piffleers actually read the Bible, Torah, and the Quran as I have, you will see that in all three ancient books, god teaches his people to respect the other religions, not trash them. The thing is that over the many centuries, the bible has been corrupted so many times and is just trash now a days. Where as each and every copy ever produced of Quran and the Torah are hand and eye checked for consistency, maybe that's why you piffleers are piffleed up. grow up!
    Please explain these quotes from the Quran then:

    5:51 O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for friends. They are friends one to another. He among you who taketh them for friends is (one) of them. Lo! Allah guideth not wrongdoing folk.

    4:47 O ye unto whom the Scripture hath been given! Believe in what We have revealed confirming that which ye possess, before We destroy countenances so as to confound them, or curse them as We cursed the Sabbath-breakers (of old time). The commandment of Allah is always executed.

    5:60 Shall I tell thee of a worse (case) than theirs for retribution with Allah ? (Worse is the case of him) whom Allah hath cursed, him on whom His wrath hath fallen and of whose sort Allah hath turned some to apes and swine, and who serveth idols. Such are in worse plight and further astray from the plain road.

    5:116 And when Allah saith: O Jesus, son of Mary! Didst thou say unto mankind: Take me and my mother for two gods beside Allah ? he saith: Be glorified! It was not mine to utter that to which I had no right. If I used to say it, then Thou knewest it. Thou knowest what is in my mind, and I know not what is in Thy Mind. Lo! Thou, only Thou, art the Knower of Things Hidden ?

    9:31 They have taken as lords beside Allah their rabbis and their monks and the Messiah son of Mary, when they were bidden to worship only One God. There is no God save Him. Be He Glorified from all that they ascribe as partner (unto Him)!

    3:24 That is because they say: The Fire will not touch us save for a certain number of days. That which they used to invent hath deceived them regarding their religion.

    4:51 Hast thou not seen those unto whom a portion of the Scripture hath been given, how they believe in idols and false deities, and how they say of those (idolaters) who disbelieve: "These are more rightly guided than those who believe" ?

    4:48 Lo! Allah forgiveth not that a partner should be ascribed unto Him. He forgiveth (all) save that to whom He will. Whoso ascribeth partners to Allah, he hath indeed invented a tremendous sin.

    4:116 Lo! Allah pardoneth not that partners should be ascribed unto Him. He pardoneth all save that to whom He will. Whoso ascribeth partners unto Allah hath wandered far astray.

    4:52 Those are they whom Allah hath cursed, and he whom Allah hath cursed, thou (O Muhammad) wilt find for him no helper.

    5:14 And with those who say: "Lo! we are Christians," We made a covenant, but they forgot a part of that whereof they were admonished. Therefor We have stirred up enmity and hatred among them till the Day of Resurrection, when Allah will inform them of their handiwork.

    5:53 Then will the believers say (unto the people of the Scripture): are these they who swore by Allah their most binding oaths that they were surely with you ? Their works have failed, and they have become the losers.

    5:57 O Ye who believe! Choose not for guardians such of those who received the Scripture before you, and of the disbelievers, as make a jest and sport of your religion. But keep your duty to Allah if ye are true believers.

    5:59 Say: O People of the Scripture! Do ye blame us for aught else than that we believe in Allah and that which is revealed unto us and that which was revealed aforetime, and because most of you are evil-livers ?

    5:72 They surely disbelieve who say: Lo! Allah is the Messiah, son of Mary. The Messiah (himself) said: O Children of Israel, worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord. Lo! whoso ascribeth partners unto Allah, for him Allah hath forbidden paradise. His abode is the Fire. For evil-doers there will be no helpers.

    3:85 And whoso seeketh as religion other than the Surrender (to Allah) it will not be accepted from him, and he will be a loser in the Hereafter.

    5:73 They surely disbelieve who say: Lo! Allah is the third of three; when there is no God save the One God. If they desist not from so saying a painful doom will fall on those of them who disbelieve.

    9:29 Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, and forbid not that which Allah hath forbidden by His messenger, and follow not the Religion of Truth, until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low.

    9:30 And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah, and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah. That is their saying with their mouths. They imitate the saying of those who disbelieved of old. Allah (Himself) fighteth against them. How perverse are they!

    9:34 O ye who believe! Lo! many of the (Jewish) rabbis and the (Christian) monks devour the wealth of mankind wantonly and debar (men) from the way of Allah. They who hoard up gold and silver and spend it not in the way of Allah, unto them give tidings (O Muhammad) of a painful doom,

    18:52 And (be mindful of) the Day when He will say: Call those partners of Mine whom ye pretended. Then they will cry unto them, but they will not hear their prayer, and We shall set a gulf of doom between them.

    19:35 It befitteth not (the Majesty of) Allah that He should take unto Himself a son. Glory be to Him! When He decreeth a thing, He saith unto it only: Be! and it is. 19:36 And lo! Allah is my Lord and your Lord. So serve Him. That is the right path. 19:37 The sects among them differ: but woe unto the disbelievers from the meeting of an awful Day.

    28:62 On the day when He will call unto them and say: Where are My partners whom ye imagined ? 28:63 Those concerning whom the Word will have come true will say: Our Lord! These are they whom we led astray. We led them astray even as we ourselves were astray. We declare our innocence before Thee: us they never worshipped. 64</B> And it will be said: Cry unto your (so-called) partners (of Allah). And they will cry unto them, and they will give no answer unto them, and they will see the Doom. Ah, if they had but been guided!

    30:13 There will be none to intercede for them of those whom they made equal with Allah. And they will reject their partners (whom they ascribed unto Him). 30:14 In the day when the Hour cometh, in that day they will be sundered. 30:15 As for those who believed and did good works, they will be made happy in a Garden. 30:16 But as for those who disbelieved and denied Our revelations, and denied the meeting of the Hereafter, such will be brought to doom.

    39:65 And verily it hath been revealed unto thee as unto those before thee (saying): If thou ascribe a partner to Allah thy work will fail and thou indeed wilt be among the losers.

    40:73 Then it is said unto them: Where are (all) that ye used to make partners (in the Sovereignty)

    5:17 They indeed have disbelieved who say: Lo! Allah is the Messiah, son of Mary. Say: Who then can do aught against Allah, if He had willed to destroy the Messiah son of Mary, and his mother and everyone on earth ? Allah's is the Sovereignty of the heavens and the earth and all that is between them. He createth what He will. And Allah is Able to do all things.


    Also, please do tell in what ways specifically has the Christian Bible been altered.

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    • FoundGirlJNB
      Found Sheep
      Forum Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 351

      #782
      Re: POLL: The Worst False Religion?

      Originally posted by Heathen_Basher View Post
      Please explain these quotes from the Quran then:

      5:51 O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for friends. They are friends one to another. He among you who taketh them for friends is (one) of them. Lo! Allah guideth not wrongdoing folk.

      4:47 O ye unto whom the Scripture hath been given! Believe in what We have revealed confirming that which ye possess, before We destroy countenances so as to confound them, or curse them as We cursed the Sabbath-breakers (of old time). The commandment of Allah is always executed.

      5:60 Shall I tell thee of a worse (case) than theirs for retribution with Allah ? (Worse is the case of him) whom Allah hath cursed, him on whom His wrath hath fallen and of whose sort Allah hath turned some to apes and swine, and who serveth idols. Such are in worse plight and further astray from the plain road.

      5:116 And when Allah saith: O Jesus, son of Mary! Didst thou say unto mankind: Take me and my mother for two gods beside Allah ? he saith: Be glorified! It was not mine to utter that to which I had no right. If I used to say it, then Thou knewest it. Thou knowest what is in my mind, and I know not what is in Thy Mind. Lo! Thou, only Thou, art the Knower of Things Hidden ?

      9:31 They have taken as lords beside Allah their rabbis and their monks and the Messiah son of Mary, when they were bidden to worship only One God. There is no God save Him. Be He Glorified from all that they ascribe as partner (unto Him)!

      3:24 That is because they say: The Fire will not touch us save for a certain number of days. That which they used to invent hath deceived them regarding their religion.

      4:51 Hast thou not seen those unto whom a portion of the Scripture hath been given, how they believe in idols and false deities, and how they say of those (idolaters) who disbelieve: "These are more rightly guided than those who believe" ?

      4:48 Lo! Allah forgiveth not that a partner should be ascribed unto Him. He forgiveth (all) save that to whom He will. Whoso ascribeth partners to Allah, he hath indeed invented a tremendous sin.

      4:116 Lo! Allah pardoneth not that partners should be ascribed unto Him. He pardoneth all save that to whom He will. Whoso ascribeth partners unto Allah hath wandered far astray.

      4:52 Those are they whom Allah hath cursed, and he whom Allah hath cursed, thou (O Muhammad) wilt find for him no helper.

      5:14 And with those who say: "Lo! we are Christians," We made a covenant, but they forgot a part of that whereof they were admonished. Therefor We have stirred up enmity and hatred among them till the Day of Resurrection, when Allah will inform them of their handiwork.

      5:53 Then will the believers say (unto the people of the Scripture): are these they who swore by Allah their most binding oaths that they were surely with you ? Their works have failed, and they have become the losers.

      5:57 O Ye who believe! Choose not for guardians such of those who received the Scripture before you, and of the disbelievers, as make a jest and sport of your religion. But keep your duty to Allah if ye are true believers.

      5:59 Say: O People of the Scripture! Do ye blame us for aught else than that we believe in Allah and that which is revealed unto us and that which was revealed aforetime, and because most of you are evil-livers ?

      5:72 They surely disbelieve who say: Lo! Allah is the Messiah, son of Mary. The Messiah (himself) said: O Children of Israel, worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord. Lo! whoso ascribeth partners unto Allah, for him Allah hath forbidden paradise. His abode is the Fire. For evil-doers there will be no helpers.

      3:85 And whoso seeketh as religion other than the Surrender (to Allah) it will not be accepted from him, and he will be a loser in the Hereafter.

      5:73 They surely disbelieve who say: Lo! Allah is the third of three; when there is no God save the One God. If they desist not from so saying a painful doom will fall on those of them who disbelieve.

      9:29 Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, and forbid not that which Allah hath forbidden by His messenger, and follow not the Religion of Truth, until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low.

      9:30 And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah, and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah. That is their saying with their mouths. They imitate the saying of those who disbelieved of old. Allah (Himself) fighteth against them. How perverse are they!

      9:34 O ye who believe! Lo! many of the (Jewish) rabbis and the (Christian) monks devour the wealth of mankind wantonly and debar (men) from the way of Allah. They who hoard up gold and silver and spend it not in the way of Allah, unto them give tidings (O Muhammad) of a painful doom,

      18:52 And (be mindful of) the Day when He will say: Call those partners of Mine whom ye pretended. Then they will cry unto them, but they will not hear their prayer, and We shall set a gulf of doom between them.

      19:35 It befitteth not (the Majesty of) Allah that He should take unto Himself a son. Glory be to Him! When He decreeth a thing, He saith unto it only: Be! and it is. 19:36 And lo! Allah is my Lord and your Lord. So serve Him. That is the right path. 19:37 The sects among them differ: but woe unto the disbelievers from the meeting of an awful Day.

      28:62 On the day when He will call unto them and say: Where are My partners whom ye imagined ? 28:63 Those concerning whom the Word will have come true will say: Our Lord! These are they whom we led astray. We led them astray even as we ourselves were astray. We declare our innocence before Thee: us they never worshipped. 64</B> And it will be said: Cry unto your (so-called) partners (of Allah). And they will cry unto them, and they will give no answer unto them, and they will see the Doom. Ah, if they had but been guided!

      30:13 There will be none to intercede for them of those whom they made equal with Allah. And they will reject their partners (whom they ascribed unto Him). 30:14 In the day when the Hour cometh, in that day they will be sundered. 30:15 As for those who believed and did good works, they will be made happy in a Garden. 30:16 But as for those who disbelieved and denied Our revelations, and denied the meeting of the Hereafter, such will be brought to doom.

      39:65 And verily it hath been revealed unto thee as unto those before thee (saying): If thou ascribe a partner to Allah thy work will fail and thou indeed wilt be among the losers.

      40:73 Then it is said unto them: Where are (all) that ye used to make partners (in the Sovereignty)

      5:17 They indeed have disbelieved who say: Lo! Allah is the Messiah, son of Mary. Say: Who then can do aught against Allah, if He had willed to destroy the Messiah son of Mary, and his mother and everyone on earth ? Allah's is the Sovereignty of the heavens and the earth and all that is between them. He createth what He will. And Allah is Able to do all things.


      Also, please do tell in what ways specifically has the Christian Bible been altered.
      Brother HeathenBasher, he won't be able to answer you as not all followers of the mudslime community is allowed to read the quran... he must have either run away or is still waiting to meet with his teacher to explain your verses you asked him about. They do that so that the followers cannot question the beliefs and instructions. For all they know the quran says "Life long and prosper" and "there are no virgins on the other side of death", but they would never know!!! Now Ahmed the dead terrorist could tell them this, but he is dead, so he has a bit of a logistical problem with getting a message across!!!
      Psalm 1:5 Therefore the wicked will not stand in the judgement, nor sinners in the assembly of the righteous.

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      • piercegraham
        Confirmed Enemy of God
        • Sep 2009
        • 186

        #783
        Re: POLL: The Worst False Religion?

        Originally posted by LostGirlNY View Post
        Brother HeathenBasher, he won't be able to answer you as not all followers of the mudslime community is allowed to read the quran... he must have either run away or is still waiting to meet with his teacher to explain your verses you asked him about. They do that so that the followers cannot question the beliefs and instructions. For all they know the quran says "Life long and prosper" and "there are no virgins on the other side of death", but they would never know!!! Now Ahmed the dead terrorist could tell them this, but he is dead, so he has a bit of a logistical problem with getting a message across!!!
        I just want to point one thing out. All of the three main religions (Christianity, Isalm and Judaism) need to realize one thing: They're all the same thing, just with different names and very few differing beliefs!

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        • James Hutchins
          True Christian™
          Just a Regular Nice Guy
           
          • Jun 2009
          • 29451

          #784
          Re: POLL: The Worst False Religion?

          Oh Pierce, there you go again, showing your true colors, you rapscallion!
          Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
          Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
          Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
          Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
          Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
          Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

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          • Rev. Jim Osborne
            True Christian™ Televangelist
            Director of Fundraising and Tithing
            On the Look Out for Wife #6!
            True Christian™
            • Jun 2009
            • 8622

            #785
            Re: POLL: The Worst False Religion?

            Originally posted by piercegraham View Post
            I just want to point one thing out. All of the three main religions (Christianity, Isalm and Judaism) need to realize one thing: They're all the same thing, just with different names and very few differing beliefs!
            That's an idiotic statement if I ever heard one. They are more different from each other than they have in common, actually.

            Each of three have different conceptions of God: Jews see God as "Yahweh", Christians see God as the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit and Muslims see God as some unknowable, mysterious entity called Allah.

            They all have completely different holy books. Granted, the Jews and Christians both share the Pentateuch in their Scriptures, but the majority of the Bible is exclusively Christian. The Qu'ran is a seperate book altogether.

            Don't even get started on how each religion has different festivals from each other, different rites and ceremonies, etc. Anyone who knows anything about world religions would not say anything so naive as what you said.

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            • Atheist are evil
              Forum Member
              Forum Member
              • Oct 2009
              • 31

              #786
              Re: POLL: The Worst False Religion?

              I should say Atheist, due to they worshiping to Lennin and Stalin


              Curse upon them!
              "I know this is painful for the ladies to hear, but if you get married, you have accepted the headship of a man, your husband. Christ is the head of the household and the husband is the head of the wife, and that's the way it is, period." –Pat Robertson

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              • Solomon Kane
                Forum Member
                Forum Member
                • Oct 2009
                • 10

                #787
                Re: POLL: The Worst False Religion?

                Only in Death, will any man or woman find the One, True judge.
                Yours in Service - Solomon

                1 Kings 7:14: He was a widow's son of the tribe of Naphtali, and his father was a man of Tyre, a worker in brass: and he was filled with wisdom, and understanding, and cunning to work all works in brass. And he came to king Solomon, and wrought all his work.

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                • Rev. Jim Osborne
                  True Christian™ Televangelist
                  Director of Fundraising and Tithing
                  On the Look Out for Wife #6!
                  True Christian™
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 8622

                  #788
                  Re: POLL: The Worst False Religion?

                  Originally posted by Solomon Kane View Post
                  Only in Death, will any man or woman find the One, True judge.
                  What does that have to do with the topic? And why do you talk so cryptically? Are you high on goofballs, young man?

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                  • Jeremiah Abernathy
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                    Forum Member
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 72

                    #789
                    Re: POLL: The Worst False Religion?

                    Those non-Baptist liberal False Christians. They are more vile than any other, for they take those who have been saved and those with the most potential to be saved and corrupt their minds, leading them to stray from the light and into the arms of Satan.
                    "And I say unto you my friends, Be not afraid of them that kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do. But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him."
                    -Luke 12:4-5

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                    • Fraser
                      Unsaved trash
                      Under Investigation
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 1

                      #790
                      im pretty sure that jesus wouldnt wish to smite any of these people. surely he would rather share a meal with them and try to save them rather than comdemning them with his disciples.
                      no?

                      just wondering

                      Originally posted by OnYourKnees View Post
                      I agree. All these "Jesus loves the poor and the crippled and the nigras and the divorced" leaders tell one lie after another to fleece their flocks, telling baldfaced lies to convince half-people like that Stephen Hawking, or perverts like that whoremongering Jimmy Swaggart that they can get into heaven if they tithe enough!

                      The depravity!
                      but it shows us in the bible that jesus did love the poor and the sinners etc
                      i dont understand where your coming from
                      please fill me in

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                      • Rev. Jim Osborne
                        True Christian™ Televangelist
                        Director of Fundraising and Tithing
                        On the Look Out for Wife #6!
                        True Christian™
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 8622

                        #791
                        Re: POLL: The Worst False Religion?

                        Originally posted by Fraser
                        but it shows us in the bible that jesus did love the poor and the sinners etc
                        i dont understand where your coming from
                        please fill me in
                        There's a difference between loving sinners and coddling and tolerating their sinful behavior (or even having fellowship with the unsaved!), and I wonder if you are confusing the two. Jesus loved sinners in the extent he wanted them to be Saved®, just like us. For example, when the adulteress was to be stoned, did He tell her "Keep doing what you're doing...it's okay!"? No.

                        John 8:11 She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.


                        Jesus was not afraid to judge others or rebuke them. He referred to sinners as "dogs" or a "generation of vipers". He also issued warnings that people can only attain the Kingdom of God through Him and Him alone, and all others would be damned to eternal hellfire.

                        John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no
                        man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

                        John 15:6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.

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                        • Love is the Answer ♥
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                          • Dec 2009
                          • 27

                          #792
                          Re: POLL: The Worst False Religion?

                          I hate joos, they killed our lord. That is utterly unforgivable, and therefore those big-schnozzered crooks deserve to have their flesh peel in hell for ever and always! They are the worst of the worst!
                          Jesus loves you.
                          What further incentive do you need?

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                          • watchmepissmyself
                            Unsaved trash, Dope addled cultist
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 38

                            #793
                            Re: POLL: The Worst False Religion?

                            We must all come together in a multi-denominational inter-faith and form a one world religion based on worship of the mother goddess earth and lead by Native Americans. and our main aim would be to honor and protect the earth and rid our selves of technology and all laws and live bear foot growing food with our hands. and celebrate the worship of father sky and mother earth.


                            RedCrow
                            Leviticus 20:27
                            A man also or woman that hath a familiar spirit, or that is a wizard, shall surely be put to death: they shall stone them with stones: their blood shall be upon them.

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                            • Love is the Answer ♥
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                              • Dec 2009
                              • 27

                              #794
                              Re: POLL: The Worst False Religion?

                              Originally posted by watchmenonthewall View Post
                              We must all come together in a multi-denominational inter-faith and form a one world religion based on worship of the mother goddess earth and lead by Native Americans. and our main aim would be to honor and protect the earth and rid our selves of technology and all laws and live bear foot growing food with our hands. and celebrate the worship of father sky and mother earth.


                              RedCrow
                              Get that hippy crap off our forums and go get yourself a copy of the bible, son! Eternal Damnation awaits the souls of penniless, communist hippys like you. Stop picking flowers and kissing everyone you meet and start repenting your sins before judgement day arrives!
                              Jesus loves you.
                              What further incentive do you need?

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                              • Levi Jones
                                Pastor of Hermeneutics and Apologetics
                                Bathed in Christ's Precious Blood
                                Apostle to the Cactuses, Tumbleweeds and Jackrabbits
                                 
                                • Jul 2009
                                • 13930

                                #795
                                Re: POLL: The Worst False Religion?

                                Originally posted by watchmenonthewall View Post
                                We must all come together in a multi-denominational inter-faith and form a one world religion based on worship of the mother goddess earth and lead by Native Americans. and our main aim would be to honor and protect the earth and rid our selves of technology and all laws and live bear foot growing food with our hands. and celebrate the worship of father sky and mother earth.
                                Would that peaceful religion include ritual rape, scalping and torturing people by burning off their extremities like the savage injuns were so fond of?
                                Christians are superior because we possess an understanding that unbelievers lack. It is through the Power of Jesus only the converted mind is able to understand what is going on in the world; what the Communists are really up to; what Satan's intentions are. Most unbelievers do not even believe in Satan and cannot understand his tactics.

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