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  • #1

    Is this wrong?

    I visited a close friend of mine the other day a 17 year old girl from my church.

    Her father is a FireFighter so is not home at periods so she is left in the hands of her mother who I must say is a lovely godly women and very mild mannered.


    I fully understand where a woman sits in the world and I know my place. As I have mentioned in other posts I am still subjected to beatings from my parents and wear a chastity belt to protect my virtue and help avoid temptation.


    Now to the point. When I arrived she was wearing/locked in a pair of ankle shackles/cuffs/leg irons what ever they are called. Obviously this took me by surprise and I asked her about them and she said that her father has taken to locking them on her when he is at work to prevent her from leaving the home.


    Is this ok or is it going to far. Should I speak to our Pastor regarding this
    “Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the savior of the body. Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in everything.” (Ephesians 5:22-24)
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    Re: Is this wrong?

    Originally posted by southerngirl97 View Post
    I visited a close friend of mine the other day a 17 year old girl from my church.

    Her father is a FireFighter so is not home at periods so she is left in the hands of her mother who I must say is a lovely godly women and very mild mannered.


    I fully understand where a woman sits in the world and I know my place. As I have mentioned in other posts I am still subjected to beatings from my parents and wear a chastity belt to protect my virtue and help avoid temptation.


    Now to the point. When I arrived she was wearing/locked in a pair of ankle shackles/cuffs/leg irons what ever they are called. Obviously this took me by surprise and I asked her about them and she said that her father has taken to locking them on her when he is at work to prevent her from leaving the home.


    Is this ok or is it going to far. Should I speak to our Pastor regarding this
    My dear, your friend's father's methods are clearly not effective. She was able to leave her house to come visit you, correct?


    That being said, as a young, unmarried woman it is not your place to interfere in the goings on of another family. You could discuss the matter with your pastor in case he needs to counsel your future husband with regards to your future daughters. Just remember, you are only offering a suggestion, not making any decisions.


    What you really need to do is pray that you present only sons to your future husband. That's the best way to cut back on expenditures for chastity devices.


    Helpfully Yours,
    Handmaiden
    His left hand should be under my head, and his right hand should embrace me.

    Guns For God and the Economy

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    • #3
      Re: Is this wrong?

      I feel there is more to this story than we have been told. Has this young woman been disrespectful? Has she left the home without permission? There are too many unanswered questions to make a judgement here. Further, I feel it would be best to leave the entire situation to your friend's father and you should not involve yourself in their business.
      God judgeth the righteous, And God is angry with the wicked every day- Psalm 7:11

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      • #4
        Re: Is this wrong?

        They are effective. I went to her house to visit her. She is not able to leave their property without raising a few heads I would imagine without her father removing them.

        I do agree that it not my place to interfere with other I was just concerned whether such a practice is suitable this day and age.


        Especially as there are so many so called "liberals" out there
        “Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the savior of the body. Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in everything.” (Ephesians 5:22-24)

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        • #5
          Re: Is this wrong?

          No I do not think that she been bad. In fact she is far better behaved than I am myself.

          I have just messaged her and asked more and it is not a punishment but a precaution as her father is away for periods of time. Adds to his piece of mind she is not sneaking out.


          In fact it was the our Pastor that suggested it and provided the cuffs as a means of ensuring she stays home.
          “Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the savior of the body. Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in everything.” (Ephesians 5:22-24)

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          • #6
            Re: Is this wrong?

            Clearly your friend is in an incestuous relationship with her father in order to prepare her for a life of lesbianism. No 17 year old willingly gets handcuffs without the expectation of a rousing game of Slap the Fishy and Tickle the Tinker. Once the familial boundaries have been dissolved, the next step is to introduce the child to homosexual experiences, and then encourage them to run for public school boards in order to influence very young children and get them addicted to sex. Seventeen seems awfully old for such tactics. Is she a retarded?
            Hello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.

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            • #7
              Re: Is this wrong?

              No she is not retarded thank fully and I am pretty sure there are no incestuous or lesbian undertones to it.

              I think it is more the fact that knowing she is wearing them means he knows she it staying at home.


              I suppose it is much like my chastity belt where I have no intention of sinning but it is peace of mind for my parents so something I willingly except.
              “Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the savior of the body. Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in everything.” (Ephesians 5:22-24)

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              • #8
                Re: Is this wrong?

                Originally posted by southerngirl97 View Post
                No she is not retarded thank fully and I am pretty sure there are no incestuous or lesbian undertones to it.

                I think it is more the fact that knowing she is wearing them means he knows she it staying at home.


                I suppose it is much like my chastity belt where I have no intention of sinning but it is peace of mind for my parents so something I willingly except.
                I hate to tell you dear, but that's just not normal. There's nothing Biblical about this kind of behavior, and honestly it reeks of porn. I think your friends are doing what's called a "desensitization" on you. That's a psychological term that means they're slowly but surely introducing you to more deviant behaviors so that you become so accustomed to them you no longer recognize them as perverted. That, by the way, is the goal of secular psychology - to desensitize a decent Christian until they no longer know the difference between normal and perverse. If it weren't for the efforts and prayers of theopsychoanalysts, like our own dear Dr. Niles, I shudder to think what would happen to humanity.

                Tell us, does your friend's father ever brush his teeth or shave before you come over? Does he look you in the eye and ask how you've been? These are all very suspicious if you ask me (and you did). By the way, you might find an actual resource for Biblical discipline helpful: Christian Domestic Discipline.
                Hello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.

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                • #9
                  Re: Is this wrong?

                  Thank you for your wise words of warning Ma'am. I appreciate you speaking your mind on this issue.

                  Maybe you are right as she suggested that I should do the same. I am not sure how it is perverted as I could not see anything pleasurable about it being restrained in such a manner other than being a penance and suffering like our Lord Jesus did for us on the cross.


                  However, I do understand that there are perverts out that that may appeal to such things.

                  As for your questions regarding my interactions with him. We do not speak no, I am only permitted to visit when he is not there as he does not want his house invaded by visitors. And no I would not look in the eye as that is disrespectful. When ever I am spoken to by a Man or any better I will always bow my head and eyes to avoid that.


                  Thank you for the link on discipline I will read that
                  “Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the savior of the body. Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in everything.” (Ephesians 5:22-24)

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                  • #10
                    Re: Is this wrong?

                    Originally posted by southerngirl97 View Post
                    Thank you for your wise words of warning Ma'am. I appreciate you speaking your mind on this issue.
                    It is my duty and my pleasure. Without wise women to look up to, the Holy Bible tells us younger women like yourself are destined to become drunken sluts, a disappointment to society and offensive unto the LORD (Titus 2:3-5).

                    Maybe you are right as she suggested that I should do the same. I am not sure how it is perverted as I could not see anything pleasurable about it being restrained in such a manner other than being a penance and suffering like our Lord Jesus did for us on the cross.
                    Liberals find pleasure in pain. I'm going to speak frankly to you dear because you deserve the Truth, but also because you're getting a little long in the tooth to be finding a husband. I pray my guidance will help you be a little less unattractive to an eligible bachelor.

                    Liberals are all homosexuals, and studies show homosexuals only understand pain. There is no other reason that explains their constant pursuit of stretching out their rectal cavities for the privilege of the "top bear" homosexual leader of the gang. As they learn to escape the pain and go to their "happy place" while experiencing the sweaty, sticking grunting and thrusting that accompanies all homosexual get-togethers, their brains become conditioned to interpret these feelings as pleasurable. You say you don't see anything pleasurable about the pain, and yet a 17 year old lady isn't married and raising a family of her own, but "helping" her father feel secure about her well-being. The only explanation is he feels increasing anxiety at her lack of homosexual progress by this age.
                    Hello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Is this wrong?

                      May I be blunt Ma'am and ask what you advise is. Should I distance myself from them.

                      But now I am worried that we have spoke she will mention to our Pastor and I will end up in chains.
                      “Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the savior of the body. Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in everything.” (Ephesians 5:22-24)

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                      • #12
                        Re: Is this wrong?

                        This seems much more serious than I had imagined. Perhaps the police should be consulted. If not for the perceptive abilities of Sister Mary Etheldreda, this atrocity might have gone undetected.
                        God judgeth the righteous, And God is angry with the wicked every day- Psalm 7:11

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                        • #13
                          Re: Is this wrong?

                          Originally posted by southerngirl97 View Post
                          May I be blunt Ma'am and ask what you advise is. Should I distance myself from them.

                          But now I am worried that we have spoke she will mention to our Pastor and I will end up in chains.


                          Do you have reasons to suspect that your pastor is some weakling who easily falls under the influence of every abomination he encounters?

                          Why would your family be following such a pastor?
                          God created fossils to test our faith.

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                          The Immorality of the "Universal Declaration of Human Rights."
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                          • #14
                            Re: Is this wrong?

                            He has been our family Pastor for many year, all my life that I know and have been very good. He does have some strict ideas on discipline.

                            As for the police I did mention this to her and she said that she consented to wearing them and is not being forced as such. It is a rule that she has accepted within their household.
                            “Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the savior of the body. Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in everything.” (Ephesians 5:22-24)

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                            • #15
                              Re: Is this wrong?

                              Originally posted by southerngirl97 View Post
                              May I be blunt Ma'am and ask what you advise is. Should I distance myself from them.

                              But now I am worried that we have spoke she will mention to our Pastor and I will end up in chains.
                              Is your pastor a powerful crime boss in Tatooine, by any chance?
                              Hello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.

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