[BelieverInGod]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

Even if the woman is put into a bad situtation still gives no right to a man to rape her. No means no, no matter what situation it came from.

I'm just saying that a woman is responsible for whatever situation she puts herself into. I don't allow my boys to go out alone, how protective do you think I would be of a daughter.

If women would just think of the consequences of their actions, they wouldn't pass out in the back rooms at frat parties, they wouldn't go out drinking alone with some guy they just met. The "creepers" as you call them don't wear signs and from what I've seen on here, most can spin a wonderful tale about how "they respect women and women's rights".

I can give you an example, nto exactly what you asked, but quite similar , let's say one day a woman goes out to buy groceries because she notices there aren't any potatos in the house, so she runs out to get some before her husband comes home (potatos are his favorite) so she can surprise him with some lovely mashed potatos. She walks home, but doesn't realize she had been followed by a man. This man just saw her walking by and had to stick it in her. so he followed her home, ran inside the house right before she can lock the door, raped her and left. no way that's her fault.

What if she was alone in her bed and aliens came in and raped her. Yes I can imagine horrible situations as well, however imagining them and proof that they happen are two different things.

Going out to coffee doesn't mean come have sex with me. Two very different things! Sure, the deep neckline may cause a man to get horny, doesn't mean he has to act on it then and there. He should learn to control that and save that sort of thing for his wife and not some random girl that shows a little cleavage. Learn to control that penis of his.
And btw, not to shock you or anything, most women these days tend to wear deep neckline shirts, yet most men can control themselves when they see this only the creepers can't

It leads the "creeper" on. If she acted in a more modest way and refused to go for coffee with someone she didn't know and didn't get into a car with him, then the "rape" wouldn't have happened. Yes, I do realize that most women dress like whores these days, I've seen girls as young as 14 wearing not much more than 2 belts passing as a skirt and a top. Why they are not arrested for lewd behaviour, I don't know. I guess the police are afraid that the femnazi's will come down on them for saying how a woman should dress.

But this is getting way off topic here. Sure there are lots of situations that can lead to rape, but if a girl live a True Christian lifestyle, the odds of her getting raped are minimal. She would be under the protection of Jesus, her Father and her Church at all times.

[jim-bobb]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

Alright, I'm done with this, you have your opinion and I have mine. We both know what the other thinks so i'll leave it at that.

Have yourself a good night, I'm going to go do my homework on evolution, fun stuff that is.

Also men and women are equals just pointing that out there<3, you seem to think otherwise.

[jim-bobb]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

Actually one more question, if a girl were to rape a man, would that be his fault? Or is the girl to blame once again? Sorry for me not knowing, as I am unsaved trash.

[BelieverInGod]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

Alright, I'm done with this, you have your opinion and I have mine. We both know what the other thinks so i'll leave it at that.

Have yourself a good night, I'm going to go do my homework on evolution, fun stuff that is.

Also men and women are equals just pointing that out there<3, you seem to think otherwise.

If men and women are equals, then why does the woman need all this special protection and lobbyists to "protect" her from the big scary "creepers"?

Actually one more question, if a girl were to rape a man, would that be his fault? Or is the girl to blame once again? Sorry for me not knowing, as I am unsaved trash.

How would a girl rape a man? A girl can act the whore, and there are very specific laws about stoning women who are whores. Now if only we could get back to Biblical law.

[jim-bobb]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

If men and women are equals, then why does the woman need all this special protection and lobbyists to "protect" her from the big scary "creepers"?



How would a girl rape a man? A girl can act the whore, and there are very specific laws about stoning women who are whores. Now if only we could get back to Biblical law.

First off, women don't need all this "special protection" women can handle themselves on their own, just like men, but women are generally smaller than men, which makes some men feel as if they are in power and can do what they please with women. I know a few women that I'm sure can kick the big scary creepers asses, but most of the time they are caught off guard without time to react. Or the big scary creepers have guns, which even big all powerful men can't protect themselves from.
Since women are most of the time a smaller size then men, some men feel as if they need to protect them, when in reality they don't need the protection.

ugh, it annoys me how close minded you are about this, there are such things as man whores, yet nothing wrong with being a man whore it would seem

[BelieverInGod]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

First off, women don't need all this "special protection" women can handle themselves on their own, just like men, but women are generally smaller than men, which makes some men feel as if they are in power and can do what they please with women.

Then why all the take back the night garbage? Why so many "rape awareness programs"? Why all of this stuff that basically say that women are just weak little creatures who should just lay there and do whatever the big scary man says.

I'm a female, I've been through these courses. Yes, they tell us to just do whatever the man tells us to do. I have never once heard the people who run these courses to give the common sense advice that I give my children.

I know a few women that I'm sure can kick the big scary creepers asses, but most of the time they are caught off guard without time to react. Or the big scary creepers have guns, which even big all powerful men can't protect themselves from.

So women are equal except when they aren't?

Since women are most of the time a smaller size then men, some men feel as if they need to protect them, when in reality they don't need the protection.

I'm not sure what this has to do with rape.

ugh, it annoys me how close minded you are about this, there are such things as man whores, yet nothing wrong with being a man whore it would seem

Of course there is. The Bible speaks out against fornication. Why would you think the Bible didn't talk about fornication?

The problem with rape is that there is no statistics. None. All of the statistical quotes rage so far as to be considered useless.

I've heard femnazi's claim that NO WOMAN WOULD EVER LIE ABOUT RAPE, yet some statistics say as many as 50% of rape reports are false. I remember one came out around 10 years ago or so where the RCMP (Canada) reported that 30% of the rapes that were reported to them turned out to be false allegations. Instead of telling women to smarten up, the femnazi's started screaming that it was all the cops fault because obvioiusly these women weren't really lying.

On the other hand, one of the queens of the femnazi's, Andrea Dworkin claims that all heterosexual sex is rape. Since these femnazi's run the women's groups that get the funding for rape information, all of the numbers are going to be skewed in their favor.

Now looking at the Wikipedia pages on rape (exactly why this subject needs multiple pages is beyond me) what is considered rape by the sickular world has gone off the tracks. Sure, you make up these scenario's about some filthy pervert following the sweet housewife home, but in reality nobody keeps track of the numbers. In Germany, a woman doesn't even have to have sex to cry rape. My husband has made the joke that he was going to start setting up a booth outside of bars where the man could get the woman to sign a legal contract stating that she was heading home with him with the intent to fornicate. Unfortunately he didn't think God would look to highly on that one.

[Twiggy]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

Of course not, they just dress like whores, act like whores and put themselves in comprimising conditions where it is easy to get raped. But they are completely innocent.

This is a pamphlet another church hands out that is being discussed in the men's section. I'm not linking you to the men's section because you would then post there, and you're not supposed to. Not that liebral hussy's follow the rules.

The link I provided was from some outraged liebral group who thinks women should be allowed to walk down the street naked. I'm not sure where this idea came from.

As for God's rules about Rape, perhaps you should read Deuteronomy 22:22-29 . The rules outlined about rape are pretty detailed.

I'm pretty sure that some of those Bible quote were about adultery, and the link you sent was about a girl who I would consider to be modestly dressed. TO be honest, walking down the road naked isn't very clever and I frankly wouldn't really want to have to see a bunch of naked ladies wandering around, but I still think that the fault lies with the criminal, not the victim.

[Meek and Humble]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

TO be honest, walking down the road naked isn't very clever and I frankly wouldn't really want to have to see a bunch of naked ladies wandering around, but I still think that the fault lies with the criminal, not the victim.

Of course it does. That's why he should be punished and forced to marry the victim. YOU are the one who would rather the girl not be given any justice

[Twiggy]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

Of course it does. That's why he should be punished and forced to marry the victim. YOU are the one who would rather the girl not be given any justice

Ah yes, the justice that is forcing a girl to marry a criminal, and then spend the rest of her life cooking and leaning for him.

[Meek and Humble]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

Ah yes, the justice that is forcing a girl to marry a criminal, and then spend the rest of her life cooking and leaning for him.

Exactly. Now you're getting it.

[wait_what]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

Ah yes, the justice that is forcing a girl to marry a criminal, and then spend the rest of her life cooking and leaning for him.

Have YOU ever been married to woman? It is a task akin to slavery. It is punishment enough for the most heinous of crimes.

[smile4Him]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

god loves all children

[Meek and Humble]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

god loves all children

That's not what the Bible says.

Leviticus 20:23 And ye shall not walk in the manners of the nation, which I cast out before you: for they committed all these things, and therefore I abhorred them.

Psalm 5:5 The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.

Psalm 11:5 The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth.

Proverbs 6:16, 19 These six things doth the LORD hate ... A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

Hosea 9:15 I hated them: for the wickedness of their doings.

Malachi 1:3 And I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness.

Romans 9:13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.

[wait_what]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

god loves all children

Really?

Amos 6:8

8 The Lord God hath sworn by himself, saith the Lord the God of hosts, I abhor the excellency of Jacob, and hate his palaces: therefore will I deliver up the city with all that is therein

Amos 5:15
15 Hate the evil, and love the good, and establish judgment in the gate: it may be that the Lord God of hosts will be gracious unto the remnant of Joseph.

Proverbs 6:16
16 ¶These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:

Deuteronomy 1:27
27 And ye murmured in your tents, and said, Because the Lord hated us, he hath brought us forth out of the land of Egypt, to deliver us into the hand of the Amorites, to destroy us.

28 Lest the land whence thou broughtest us out say, Because the Lord was not able to bring them into the land which he promised them, and because he hated them, he hath brought them out to slay them in the wilderness.

[Twiggy]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

Exactly. Now you're getting it.

I think being married to you would be more of a punishment...

Have YOU ever been married to woman? It is a task akin to slavery. It is punishment enough for the most heinous of crimes.

No, because I am a woman, and I'm too you to get married. However, my mum and dad are very happy together, and both of them have jobs and share the housework. Obviously my brother and I help out too when we're at home. To be honest I think if you suggested to my mum that she should stay at home and cook and clean for 12 hours a day she would probably laugh in your face.