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Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

I am dearly sorry if i may have over looked the rules of this great and holy website and there by say sorry for all the things i have done, i just requied help with this matter and that is all. if you could direct me to a site that can assist me and my friends in her quest for forgiveness i will be most greatfull.

[Heartstrings]

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Another fluffy bunny Bible interpeter....
If God wanted the Bible changed, He would of done so. You do not like it, take it up with Him, our Creator and Supreme being.

I understand where you're coming from. But if you read the whole book of Deuteronomy, the laws are being set for those people back then. It's the laws that they went by, kind of like the laws we have now in today's world. I'm not saying no one should follow these laws but some of them are hard to follow in the mess of a world we live in. Who knows, maybe hundreds of years from now (if the world is still here), those people will look back on the laws we had and they won't follow them all because their society and culture is different. But then again it's just my opinion, and thanks for your response.

[Pastor William Nathaniel Sampson]

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I understand where you're coming from. But if you read the whole book of Deuteronomy, the laws are being set for those people back then. It's the laws that they went by, kind of like the laws we have now in today's world. I'm not saying no one should follow these laws but some of them are hard to follow in the mess of a world we live in. Who knows, maybe hundreds of years from now (if the world is still here), those people will look back on the laws we had and they won't follow them all because their society and culture is different. But then again it's just my opinion, and thanks for your response.

Are you a Christian? Do you believe Jesus Christ is God the Father?

[Patriot of the U.S.A]

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Never read the Bible, did you.
Until you repent, you are a sinner. You do not have to do anything. But until you give yourself to Jesus, you are a sinner. A baby cannot give itself to God.
It starts here:
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I'm not that great at arguing, and i can't reason with you people. I give up on that subject.

[Patriot of the U.S.A]

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This has been adddressed Ad nauseam in this thread already.

First, a Christian girl would never put herself in a place where rapists lurk.
Second, a Christian girl does not dress like a harlot, she dresses modestly which will not attack the rapist.
Third, a Christian girl does not go anyplace unchapareoned.

I have never heard of a True Christian™ girl ever being raped. Those that are, once you look into it, are always asking for it, begging really. Going out at night.
Dancing unchaperoned in clubs
Wearing the clothes of a whore
Drinking alcohol
Talking to boys without her fathers permission

You think this girl is not looking to get raped and have demons put inside her?

I didn't say that the girl would dress like a harlot, drunk, or any of the above things you said. What if she was 20, had her own home, lived alone, and she was just on her way back from a short walk with her dog.

[James Hutchins]

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I understand where you're coming from. But if you read the whole book of Deuteronomy, the laws are being set for those people back then. It's the laws that they went by, kind of like the laws we have now in today's world. I'm not saying no one should follow these laws but some of them are hard to follow in the mess of a world we live in. Who knows, maybe hundreds of years from now (if the world is still here), those people will look back on the laws we had and they won't follow them all because their society and culture is different. But then again it's just my opinion, and thanks for your response.

Nothing has changed except we have color TV.

God does not give wings until we die.
God has not started the Rapture.
Most people will go to Hell

It is nice to have an opinion though when it is proven wrong time and time again, don't you think you should re-evaluate your opinons? It is said a fool is a person who does the same thing over and over and expects a different outcome. I'm just saying.

[Patriot of the U.S.A]

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If you agree that God is omnipotent and omniscient (as clearly stated in all versions of the Bible), then you agree that nothing happens that God does not want to happen. Therefore, if the woman in the above scenario was raped, it has nothing to do with the people involved. It happened because God allowed it to happen. If God allowed it to happen, then how do you justify any further punishment for the man, aside from that prescribed in the Bible?

If you disagree with the above conclusion, the god you worship is not the God of the Bible, and you are not a Christian.

God doesn't control people, and people are sinners, so a lot of things happen that he doesn't want to happen.

[James Hutchins]

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I'm not that great at arguing, and i can't reason with you people. I give up on that subject.

Well, it is hard for you to make a valid point when you are wrong, that is true.
We are not arguing, we are discussing. You just do not understand God or the Bible. I suggest you read the KJV a few times, take it as it is written, do not try to twist the scripture. God had the Bible written so any person could follow it. There is no 'hidden meaning', no 'Where's Waldo'.

[Patriot of the U.S.A]

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Well, it is hard for you to make a valid point when you are wrong, that is true.
We are not arguing, we are discussing. You just do not understand God or the Bible. I suggest you read the KJV a few times, take it as it is written, do not try to twist the scripture. God had the Bible written so any person could follow it. There is no 'hidden meaning', no 'Where's Waldo'.

You know what, I think I'll take your advise, I'll read the KJV bible.

[James Hutchins]

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I didn't say that the girl would dress like a harlot, drunk, or any of the above things you said. What if she was 20, had her own home, lived alone, and she was just on her way back from a short walk with her dog.

20 years old and not married, living alone, she might as well put a red light bulb in the porch light.

My daughters live with me until married, most by age 15, though Carol is still home and just turned 20. Something is not right with her, we may have to do something about it.
Once married, a female has too many responsibilities to just 'go for a walk' Take my wife. She is up every day at 4:30AM tending to the barn animals. Then she rings the bell to get the help up. Then to the house to wake my daughters so they can start their chores. At 7:30, she wakes my boys and finds out hat they want for breakfast. At 8:05 sharp, she silently brings my coffee to my sunroom and takes my note of what I want for breakfast and a list of additional chores she has to do that day along with the regular cleaning and other womens work. This continues until 8PM when the dinner dishes are cleaned and put away. Then she goes to bed and relaxes. She does not have time to be a whore. No girl should.

[James Hutchins]

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You know what, I think I'll take your advise, I'll read the KJV bible.

Good for you, really knowing what God expects will give you great solace.

[James Hutchins]

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God doesn't control people, and people are sinners, so a lot of things happen that he doesn't want to happen.

I think you misunderstood him. Of course God does not control people, He gave us free will and wants us to use it. However, He is in charge of us. Much the same as I am in charge of the household dogs and field hands. They can go against my demands (they are free to do so) but will most certainly suffer the consequences of my wrath.

[Didymus Much]

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God doesn't control people, and people are sinners, so a lot of things happen that he doesn't want to happen.

Then your god is not omnipotent, and my point about you not being a Christian stands.

Isaiah 45:7 "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these [things]."

[Patriot of the U.S.A]

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I've been wondering, in the area where you have all your awards, a lot of times one of them is "tea bag patriot". Don't you mean "tea party patriot"? Tea bag patriot is what Obama calls the tea party, (which, if you know anything about the tea party, is named after the Boston tea party from the late 17th century, when America was under the control of Britain. I assume you know what the Boston tea party is?). I am a member of the EMTP (East Mountain Tea Party). That's why I named myself Patriot of the U.S.A.

[James Hutchins]

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I've been wondering, in the area where you have all your awards, a lot of times one of them is "tea bag patriot". Don't you mean "tea party patriot"? Tea bag patriot is what Obama calls the tea party, (which, if you know anything about the tea party, is named after the Boston tea party from the late 17th century, when America was under the control of Britain. I assume you know what the Boston tea party is?). I am a member of the EMTP (East Mountain Tea Party). That's why I named myself Patriot of the U.S.A.

A bit off topic, don't you think? Questions and statements like that are for your introduction thread. You did read the 'N00Bs' thread right?