[Bobby-Joe]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

The difference is that according to the Qu'ran, if a woman is raped and can provide a certain amount of witnesses (2 men or 4 women), the rapist is killed and she is forgiven. Essentially, if she can provide enough witnesses, it's not her fault. If she can't provide witnesses, her family or community performs an honor killing, much like what is required in the Bible.
I know it's not what you believe, and I'm not trying to offend. But While Muslim law is harsh, according to the Quaran women are actually allowed more freedom than in Christianity.

Friend,

Your' logic is faulty under you own beliefs; the laws on rape in Leviticus and Deuteronomy come from God Himself. That is not a teaching of Christ. What you cited come from the Ou'ran, which is only sourced to Mohamed. Now what you are saying is the interpretation of someone you consider a prophet trumps The Word of God. That makes no sense. It ether means God was wrong when He made His law or Mohamed knows better that God or man was someone able to distort God's law when He gave to man. If any three of those are true it would mean God isn't God.

Are you sure you want that? No, even as a Muslim you must accept the woman must be put to death as an accessory to her own rape

[BelieverInGod]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

The difference is that according to the Qu'ran, if a woman is raped and can provide a certain amount of witnesses (2 men or 4 women), the rapist is killed and she is forgiven. Essentially, if she can provide enough witnesses, it's not her fault. If she can't provide witnesses, her family or community performs an honor killing, much like what is required in the Bible.
I know it's not what you believe, and I'm not trying to offend. But While Muslim law is harsh, according to the Quaran women are actually allowed more freedom than in Christianity.

You're joking right? Who are these 2 men (or 4 women) who enjoy watching rapes then turning in the rapists? The Bible states that if a woman cries out and nobody is around to hear her, she is blameless, no witnesses needed.

And you see stoning her to death as better than letting her enjoy the rest of her life as a wife? What kind of sicko are you?

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

You're joking right? Who are these 2 men (or 4 women) who enjoy watching rapes then turning in the rapists? The Bible states that if a woman cries out and nobody is around to hear her, she is blameless, no witnesses needed.

And you see stoning her to death as better than letting her enjoy the rest of her life as a wife? What kind of sicko are you?

I would like to enhance Believer in God's statement here; no one here denies rape is a traumatic experience that leaves the victim's mentally scared for life. That is why even secular society demands the criticism penalties for this crime. Simple justice for the victim demands that when a woman enables her own rape by behaving like a harlot she should be punished for being just as much of a viscous predator as the man who attacked her.

[gm jack]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

What should happen if a married woman is raped?

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

What should happen if a married woman is raped?

What does the Bible say on the matter?

[gm jack]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

What does the Bible say on the matter?

Partially rhetorical. Now why should there be such a difference in outcome depending if the woman is engaged (betrothed is included as well as married) as opposed to a single woman?

Physically identical, and neither have made their vows before God. Why should the single woman be forced to marry her attacker, while the bretrothed woman would have her attacked killed?

[True Disciple]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

Partially rhetorical. Now why should there be such a difference in outcome depending if the woman is engaged (betrothed is included as well as married) as opposed to a single woman?

Physically identical, and neither have made their vows before God. Why should the single woman be forced to marry her attacker, while the bretrothed woman would have her attacked killed?

Is this an answer to Pastor Ezekiel's question? I think not.

Anyway, who are you to question God's motives? Having created the very concept of Good and Evil (as He created everything), I would think He would know what and what not to include in the Law.

[Dove321]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

In the modern world that we live in, neither rapist or person who was raped would want to marry eachother. What makes you think the rapist will want to marry the girl he raped?


On another note, what does the bible say about a woman raping a man? Is it still the person being raped's fault, or does the woman get the blame yet again?

[BelieverInGod]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

In the modern world that we live in, neither rapist or person who was raped would want to marry eachother. What makes you think the rapist will want to marry the girl he raped?

Does the Bible say that the man has a choice in the matter? NO! It says he has to pay her father the Bride price, marry her, and cannot divorce her for the rest of her life.

As for the married/betrothed woman, if she cries out she is sinless. If she doesn't cry out then she was a willing partner in fornication.

On another note, what does the bible say about a woman raping a man? Is it still the person being raped's fault, or does the woman get the blame yet again?

Are you actually suggesting that a woman should not be blamed if she rapes a man? Not that I'm sure how a woman WOULD rape a man, but there's lots in the Bible about how to deal with a harlot.

[LiveByTheBible]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

The God hath spoken, 'You are all dumbasses'

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

The God hath spoken, 'You are all dumbasses'

Dear Hatemonger;

Thank you for taking the time out of your busy schedule of worshiping satan and setting fire ti orphanages to post this hateful message. The Holy Bible tells us that we are actually Blessed by your persecution! Thanks for proving that we're right.

Matthew 5:10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
5:11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.
5:12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.

Enjoy hell. I know that Jesus and I can't wait to watch you burn in hell for all eternity. Oh, how we'll laugh at you as you scream in agony! Shout Glory!!

YIC,

--Pastor Ezekiel

[LiveByTheBible]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

Hello, I'm sorry for my previous post but this must be said: You are zealots and hatemongers yourselves, and have no right to be calling this woman a slut, or a bitch. She was raped? Do you not realize that being raped means, the unlawful compelling of a woman through physical force or duress to have sexual intercourse. Of course you don't realize that, because you're a sexist. And don't deserve to have your, so called 'God's apraisal. Infact, you deserve to goto the hell you so fear. You take, 'Gods word' to a, 'I'm a scared dick and can't have a backbone of myself.'

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

Hello, I'm sorry for my previous post but this must be said: You are zealots and hatemongers yourselves, and have no right to be calling this woman a slut, or a bitch. She was raped? Do you not realize that being raped means, the unlawful compelling of a woman through physical force or duress to have sexual intercourse. Of course you don't realize that, because you're a sexist. And don't deserve to have your, so called 'God's apraisal. Infact, you deserve to goto the hell you so fear. You take, 'Gods word' to a, 'I'm a scared dick and can't have a backbone of myself.'

Why are you here spewing hatred? Did satan send you?

[LiveByTheBible]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

Why are you here spewing hatred? Did satan send you?

I do not know if he did. I personally do not think so, and you shouldn't either. After all, your 'God' is all powerful, yes? If he controls all living things and such, maybe he sent me to you to show you the light. To show you how you are violating his will, brutally.
The Bible was never written to be interpreted literally, never. Some parts of it may guide you to a better life, your decision. But following it to the letter is sheer idiocy.
However, if the lord is so powerful, how come that I am even able to post in "God's favorite forum"?

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

I do not know if he did. I personally do not think so, and you shouldn't either. After all, your 'God' is all powerful, yes? If he controls all living things and such, maybe he sent me to you to show you the light. To show you how you are violating his will, brutally.
The Bible was never written to be interpreted literally, never. Some parts of it may guide you to a better life, your decision. But following it to the letter is sheer idiocy.
However, if the lord is so powerful, how come that I am even able to post in "God's favorite forum"?

Maybe He has called you here to wash your sins clean with His cleansing blood and get you to repent of being a teenaged smartass. Did you ever consider that, hatemonger?

Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself.