[Redeemed Papist]

Re: 12 reasons Harry Potter should be banned

I can assure you I am fully capable of determining the difference between what is right and wrong; I know that it is wrong to discriminate against someone because of their sexuality

God disagrees!

Leviticus 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

[jessicababe]

Re: 12 reasons Harry Potter should be banned

True Christians only touch a Harry Potter book when they are throwing it onto a fire.



Twelve reasons why:

1. God shows us that witchcraft, sorcery, spells, divination and magic are evil.He hates those practices because they blind us to His loving ways, then turn our hearts to a deceptive quest for self-empowerment and deadly thrills. Harry Potter's world may be real, but the timeless pagan practices it promotes are real and deadly. Well aware that the final result is spiritual bondage and oppression, He warns us:

"There shall not be found among you anyone who... practices witchcraft, or a soothsayer, or one who interprets omens, or a sorcerer, or one who conjures spells, or a medium, or a spiritist, or one who calls up the dead. For all who do these things are an abomination to the Lord..." Deuteronomy 18:9-12

2. The movie's foundation in fantasy, not reality, doesn't diminish its power to change beliefs and values...

"But they hearkened not, nor inclined their ear, but walked in the counsels and in the imagination of their evil heart, and went backward, and not forward." Jeremiah 7:24

3. Each occult image and suggestion prompts the audience to feel more at home in this setting.Children identify with their favorite characters and learn to see wizards and witches from a popular peer perspective rather than from God's perspective. Those who sense that the occult world is evil face a choice: Resist peer pressure or rationalize their imagined participation in Harry's supernatural adventures.
The second choice may quiet the nagging doubts, but rationalizing evil and justifying sin will sear the conscience and shift the child's perception of values from God's perspective to a more "comfortable" cultural adaptation. Even Christian children can easily learn to conform truth to multicultural ideals and turn God's values upside down - just as did God's people in Old Testament days:

"But they hearkened not, nor inclined their ear, but walked in the counsels and in the imagination of their evil heart, and went backward, and not forward." Jeremiah 7:24

"Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil;

Who put darkness for light, and light for darkness....
Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes,
And prudent in their own sight!" Isaiah 5:2-21

4. God tells us to "abhor [HATE] what is evil" and "cling to what is good." (Romans 12:9)

5. Immersed in Hogwarts' beliefs and values, children learn to ignore or reinterpret God's truth. They lose their natural aversion for the devious spirits represented by the creatures and symbols in this eerie world. Caught up in the exciting story, they absorb the suggested values and store the fascinating images in their minds -- making the forbidden world of the occult seem more normal than the Kingdom of God.

Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ." Colossians 2:6-9

6. This inner change is usually unconscious, for the occult lessons and impressions tend to bypass rational scrutiny. After all, who will stop, think and weigh the evidence when caught up in such a fast-moving visual adventure?

"Turn away my eyes from looking at worthless things, and revive me in Your way." Psalm 119:37

7. The main product marketed through this movie is a new belief system. This pagan ideology comes complete with trading cards, computer and other wizardly games, clothes and decorations stamped with HP symbols, action figures and cuddly dolls and audio cassettes that could keep the child's minds focused on the occult all day and into night. But in God's eyes, such paraphernalia become little more than lures and doorways to deeper involvement with the occult. In contrast, He calls a person "blessed" who -

• "walks not in the counsel of the ungodly,
• nor stands in the path of sinners,
• nor sits in the seat of the scornful;

"But his delight is in the law of the Lord, and in His law he meditates day and night. Whatever he does shall prosper." Psalm 1:1-3

8. The implied source of power behind Harry's magical feats tend to distort a child's understanding of God. In the movie as in the books, words traditionally used to refer to occult practices become so familiar that children begin to apply the same terms to God and His promised strength. Many learn to see God as a power source that can be manipulated with the right kind of prayers and rituals -- and view his miracles as just another form of magic. They base their understanding of God on their own feelings and wants, not on His revelation of Himself.

"You thought that I was altogether like you; but I will rebuke you...." Psalm 50:21

9. Blind to the true nature of God, children will blend (synthesize) Biblical truth with pagan beliefs and magical practices. In the end, you distort and destroy any remnant of true Christian faith. For our God cannot be molded to match pagan gods.

“For My people have committed two evils:

They have forsaken Me, the fountain of living waters,
And hewn themselves cisterns—broken cisterns that can hold no water." Jeremiah 2:1

10. God tells us to "train up a child in the way He should go." It starts with teaching them God's truths and training them all day long to see reality from His, not the world's perspective. To succeed, we need to shield them from contrary values until they know His Word and have memorized enough Scriptures to be able to recognize and resist deception. Once they have learned to love what God loves and see from His perspective, they will demonstrate their wisdom by choosing to say "no" to Harry Potter.

“And these words which I command you today shall be in your heart. You shall teach them diligently to your children, and shall talk of them when you sit in your house, when you walk by the way, when you lie down, and when you rise up." Deuteronomy 6:6-7

11. While some argue that Harry and his friends model friendship and integrity, they actually model how to lie and steal and get away with it.Their examples only add to the cultural relativism embraced by most children today who are honest when it doesn't cost anything, but who lie and cheat when it serves their purpose.

"And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased [depraved] mind, to do those things which are not fitting.... They are whisperers, backbiters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, unforgiving, unmerciful; who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them." Romans 1:28-32

12. God has a better way.

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I love harry potter i wanna be just like him

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: 12 reasons Harry Potter should be banned

I love harry potter i wanna be just like him

Your hero is a demon, mine is Jesus. Which of us do you imagine is going to spend eternity being sodomized in a lake of fire?

[Albusdumbledore]

Re: 12 reasons Harry Potter should be banned

The awkward moment when the Bible teachers to "treat others how you would like to be treated" and to "love your neighbor as yourself" but you guys are clearly disrespecting Wizards and gays, when there is nothing wrong with them, apart from the fact they probably get more sexy time then you guys do.:devil

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: 12 reasons Harry Potter should be banned

The awkward moment when the Bible teachers to "treat others how you would like to be treated" and to "love your neighbor as yourself" but you guys are clearly disrespecting Wizards and gays, when there is nothing wrong with them, apart from the fact they probably get more sexy time then you guys do.:devil

Please provide biblical verses that state EXACTLY what you've claimed.

Also, provide a definition of the biblical concept of "neighbor."



Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth

[Isaac Fisher]

Re: 12 reasons Harry Potter should be banned

The awkward moment when the Bible teachers to "treat others how you would like to be treated" and to "love your neighbor as yourself" but you guys are clearly disrespecting Wizards and gays, when there is nothing wrong with them, apart from the fact they probably get more sexy time then you guys do.:devil

Leviticus 20:13: If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.


Exodus 22:18
Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.

[Proud Faroese]

Re: 12 reasons Harry Potter should be banned

[atester0001]

Re: 12 reasons Harry Potter should be banned

Too bad in "god's favorite country" free speech is a valuable concept.
Therefore you can't ban a book.
No matter how much you don't like it, it's still going to be there.

Actually Book banning is very active in the us it happens everyday and harry potter has been banned in several different places in the us

[Nobar King]

Re: 12 reasons Harry Potter should be banned

Actually Book banning is very active in the us it happens everyday and harry potter has been banned in several different places in the us

Ban all the books they want as long as it isn't The Bible.

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: 12 reasons Harry Potter should be banned

Actually Book banning is very active in the us it happens everyday and harry potter has been banned in several different places in the us

You went to all the trouble of joining just to post this obvious nonsense?

Books Banned at One Time or Another in the United States

A Clockwork Orange by Anthony Burgess
A Wrinkle in Time by Madeleine L'Engle
Annie on My Mind by Nancy Garden
As I Lay Dying by William Faulkner
Blubber by Judy Blume
Brave New World by Aldous Huxley
Bridge to Terabithia by Katherine Paterson
Canterbury Tales by Chaucer
Carrie by Stephen King
Catch-22 by Joseph Heller
Christine by Stephen King
Confessions by Jean-Jacques Rousseau
Cujo by Stephen King
Curses, Hexes, and Spells by Daniel Cohen
Daddy's Roommate by Michael Willhoite
Day No Pigs Would Die by Robert Peck
Death of a Salesman by Arthur Miller
Decameron by Boccaccio
East of Eden by John Steinbeck
Fallen Angels by Walter Myers
Fanny Hill (Memoirs of a Woman of Pleasure) by John Cleland
Flowers For Algernon by Daniel Keyes
Forever by Judy Blume
Grendel by John Champlin Gardner
Halloween ABC by Eve Merriam
Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone by J.K. Rowling
Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets by J.K. Rowling
Harry Potter and the Prizoner of Azkaban by J.K. Rowling
Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire by J.K. Rowling
Have to Go by Robert Munsch
Heather Has Two Mommies by Leslea Newman
How to Eat Fried Worms by Thomas Rockwell
Huckleberry Finn by Mark Twain
I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings by Maya Angelou
Impressions edited by Jack Booth
In the Night Kitchen by Maurice Sendak
It's Okay if You Don't Love Me by Norma Klein
James and the Giant Peach by Roald Dahl
Lady Chatterley's Lover by D.H. Lawrence
Leaves of Grass by Walt Whitman
Little Red Riding Hood by Jacob and Wilhelm Grimm
Lord of the Flies by William Golding
Love is One of the Choices by Norma Klein
Lysistrata by Aristophanes
More Scary Stories in the Dark by Alvin Schwartz
My Brother Sam Is Dead by James Lincoln Collier and Christopher Collier
My House by Nikki Giovanni
My Friend Flicka by Mary O'Hara
Night Chills by Dean Koontz
Of Mice and Men by John Steinbeck
On My Honor by Marion Dane Bauer
One Day in The Life of Ivan Denisovich by Alexander Solzhenitsyn
One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest by Ken Kesey
One Hundred Years of Solitude by Gabriel Garcia Marquez
Ordinary People by Judith Guest
Our Bodies, Ourselves by Boston Women's Health Collective
Prince of Tides by Pat Conroy
Revolting Rhymes by Roald Dahl
Scary Stories 3: More Tales to Chill Your Bones by Alvin Schwartz
Scary Stories in the Dark by Alvin Schwartz
Separate Peace by John Knowles
Silas Marner by George Eliot
Slaughterhouse-Five by Kurt Vonnegut, Jr.
Tarzan of the Apes by Edgar Rice Burroughs
The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn by Mark Twain
The Adventures of Tom Sawyer by Mark Twain
The Bastard by John Jakes
The Catcher in the Rye by J.D. Salinger
The Chocolate War by Robert Cormier
The Color Purple by Alice Walker
The Devil's Alternative by Frederick Forsyth
The Figure in the Shadows by John Bellairs
The Grapes of Wrath by John Steinbeck
The Great Gilly Hopkins by Katherine Paterson
The Handmaid's Tale by Margaret Atwood
The Headless Cupid by Zilpha Snyder
The Learning Tree by Gordon Parks
The Living Bible by William C. Bower
The Merchant of Venice by William Shakespeare
The New Teenage Body Book by Kathy McCoy and Charles Wibbelsman
The Pigman by Paul Zindel
The Seduction of Peter S. by Lawrence Sanders
The Shining by Stephen King
The Witches by Roald Dahl
The Witches of Worm by Zilpha Snyder
Then Again, Maybe I Won't by Judy Blume
To Kill A Mockingbird by Harper Lee
Twelfth Night by William Shakespeare
Webster's Ninth New Collegiate Dictionary by the Merriam-Webster Editorial Staff
Witches, Pumpkins, and Grinning Ghosts: The Story of the Halloween Symbols by Edna Barth

And every one of them was pure evil!

[strongbadgeek]

Re: 12 reasons Harry Potter should be banned

[QUOTE=Dr. Isaiah Jones;737300]Look, pal, Harry Potter classifies as anti-Christian literature. It is clearly an attempt at converting our children to paganism. America is a Christian nation and thus we should not be tolerating witchcraft nor anything that goes against God's word.

First of all, my god, how close minded and arrogant can some people get? It is a work of fiction, if you don't like it, don't read it! Almost everybody here is a sexist, closed minded person! You people need to seriously go outside and learn a few things about life. This mentality and hate towards other people is what causes wars to go around in this world!
Secondly, you could call America a Christian nation, as Christianity is the majority religion, but the United States is definitely not a Christian nation. That completely crosses the line of the Separation of Church and State border which was put into place by the Founding Fathers in the Constitution. Look it up.

[strongbadgeek]

Re: 12 reasons Harry Potter should be banned

And just because you want to fall for satan's lies, it doesn't mean you're right. Hell is chock full of surprised atheists like you, pal.

Enjoy hell. I know that Jesus and I can't wait to watch you burn in hell for all eternity. Oh, how we'll laugh at you as you scream in agony! Shout Glory!!

Neither does it mean that you're right either! Atheism isn't all that bad, I've got morals, just like all of you close minded, "God" loving people do, and hell, I'm glad of being one. I can think outside the box, take more information in, and learn what I want. I don't need the work of fiction you call the Bible to tell me what I can and cannot do.

[Bella the papist whore]

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wow, well I went to Catholic school for 8 yrs & I love God, but guess what I'm watching now...HARRY POTTER!!! Best books & movies ever made

It's just a story..a great one at that.

[Capt. Aaron Portway]

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wow, well I went to Catholic school for 8 yrs . . . but guess what I'm watching now...HARRY POTTER!!!

Shocker!

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: 12 reasons Harry Potter should be banned

wow, well I went to Catholic school for 8 yrs & I love God,

But loving God and being a Catholic are mutually exclusive.

You love the Pope, and dead Mary. You hate God, which is why you disobey Him and worship dead humans and practice ritual cannibalism.