[Joanna Lytton-Vasey]

Re: A Christian alternative to "Dungeons and Dragons"?

I have been playing that game since i was 11. Im in my 20's now.

Have you considered 1 Corinthians 13:11? This raises the possibility that the time for you to put away childish things and - to put it in terms even you should be able to understand - just grow up, is long overdue?

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: A Christian alternative to "Dungeons and Dragons"?

I am not influenced, or possessed. I have been playing that game since i was 11. Im in my 20's now. My favorite class as a cleric (a healer) and a Paladin, a paladin is a strictly good person. No matter what, it is their job to right wrongs. Their powers come from which ever god they believe in, this god can come from either gods in game, or god himself. Its their job to fight the bad guys, it doesnt matter if there is no payment or anything. If they see someone getting robbed, or see demons, its their obligation to help. No matter what. This class is basically a super christian class, if you make it one. Its not some satan spawn, its just a game about rolling some dice. It can be fun if you actually get into it, atleast try the game before you read something on a forum post and assume its some ungodly game about killing civilians or something hellish like that. It can be fun, find a group that will play it with you, find a DM, and play the game. The DM will walk you through how to play. Atleast try it. A paladin would be a good class for you, they are strong, but also have powers from g o d. It can be fun, dont judge a book by its cover.

And this is a GAME? It's incomprehensible to me how anyone could write that WITHOUT demonic influence. Just imagine for instance that "whichever god they believe in" is Urqstelthwibb, goddess of dripping nitric acid into babies' ears. Who would be her paladin? What things would she consider evil? Acid-repelling earmuffs would be high on her list (of evil things) and the paladin would cook up earmuff disintegrators pronto. That would be the order of things. Fun for Urqstelthwibb no doubt; the paladin would be obliged to follow through; not much fun for the baby.

Demonic possession when encountered is not necessarily outré or grotesque. Of course it could..be, more often though it's worked its way in through an aggregate of commonplace things, not remarkable in themselves but when combined for the individual concerned a gateway is opened and the devils flounce right in. Satan knows that a game format is the best way to mask his activities and this vile invention makes demons casual agents (you mention them yourself) mere foibles to make a "game" more "interesting" but it's not a game really, is it.

This book is not to be judged by its cover, but by outcomes. Demons may be easy to hook up with but are very difficult to dislodge. There is only one answer. There is only one God. Turn to Him today.

[Basilissa]

Re: A Christian alternative to "Dungeons and Dragons"?

Alright, lets put it like this. IF they see demons attacking civilians, or a village is burning down, its their obligation to help.

How do you know the civilians aren't Nazi collaborators, or that the village doesn't consist of cannibalistic serial killers?

[thrrowaway]

Re: A Christian alternative to "Dungeons and Dragons"?

Alright, lets put it like this. IF they see demons attacking civilians, or a village is burning down, its their obligation to help. Also, the DM decides whats good and whats bad. Like if a DM says something bad is happening, its the paladins duty to do it. They are basically against all crime too.

So like, assume that they have to chase a villain, they are limited by the law. They have to do everything while not crossing the law.


Thats the alignment for all paladins, Lawful Good.

[thrrowaway]

Re: A Christian alternative to "Dungeons and Dragons"?

I'm sure that I'll be sorry that I asked, but: aside from the fact that there's something deeply wrong with you since you are still playing childish games (rather than working as a responsible adult), I do have a question. So your "paladin" always does good, right? Well, the question is: who decides what is right and what is wrong?

Because I can reassure you that the most genocidal maniacs in human history were convinced at some level that they were doing good.

Alright, lets put it like this. IF they see demons attacking civilians, or a village is burning down, its their obligation to help. Also, the DM decides whats good and whats bad. Like if a DM says something bad is happening, its the paladins duty to do it. They are basically against all crime too.

[WWJDnow]

Re: A Christian alternative to "Dungeons and Dragons"?

My favorite class as a cleric (a healer) and a Paladin, a paladin is a strictly good person. No matter what, it is their job to right wrongs.

Dungeons and Dragons is a game that is all about killing people you don't like (you call them monsters, but it's not as if they were the Mexican rapists invading our country, they're just the local rich job creators) and stealing their property. It should be called Dimwits & Democrats.

Their powers come from which ever god they believe in, this god can come from either gods in game, or god himself.

There is only one God, our Heavenly Father, the God of Abraham, Issac, and Jacob. He doesn't give people any powers other than the power of prayer.

Every word you say is just spewing Satan's venom. Repent now before it is too late. Perhaps reading this will help (click the image):

I will pray and fast for you. Or, at least, I'll eat only a very light breakfast.

[Basilissa]

Re: A Christian alternative to "Dungeons and Dragons"?

I am not influenced, or possessed. I have been playing that game since i was 11. Im in my 20's now. My favorite class as a cleric (a healer) and a Paladin, a paladin is a strictly good person. No matter what, it is their job to right wrongs.

I'm sure that I'll be sorry that I asked, but: aside from the fact that there's something deeply wrong with you since you are still playing childish games (rather than working as a responsible adult), I do have a question. So your "paladin" always does good, right? Well, the question is: who decides what is right and what is wrong?

Because I can reassure you that the most genocidal maniacs in human history were convinced at some level that they were doing good.

[thrrowaway]

Re: A Christian alternative to "Dungeons and Dragons"?

D&D is of the Devil, and the Devil is the Father of Lies. You are obviously being influenced (or maybe even possessed) by the Devil and demons, since you keep insisting that this evil game can be adapted for use by our children.

Shame on you! We are not exposing our kids to this kind of trash. They get only wholesome entertainment, such as Bible Story Pictionary and Pin the Horns on the Jew.

I am not influenced, or possessed. I have been playing that game since i was 11. Im in my 20's now. My favorite class as a cleric (a healer) and a Paladin, a paladin is a strictly good person. No matter what, it is their job to right wrongs. Their powers come from which ever god they believe in, this god can come from either gods in game, or god himself. Its their job to fight the bad guys, it doesnt matter if there is no payment or anything. If they see someone getting robbed, or see demons, its their obligation to help. No matter what. This class is basically a super christian class, if you make it one. Its not some satan spawn, its just a game about rolling some dice. It can be fun if you actually get into it, atleast try the game before you read something on a forum post and assume its some ungodly game about killing civilians or something hellish like that. It can be fun, find a group that will play it with you, find a DM, and play the game. The DM will walk you through how to play. Atleast try it. A paladin would be a good class for you, they are strong, but also have powers from g o d. It can be fun, dont judge a book by its cover.

[WWJDnow]

Re: A Christian alternative to "Dungeons and Dragons"?

I've been thinking about how we might create a truly Christian alternative game, and I think I have the solution.... Deacons & Deuteronomy.

We'd have a variety of righteous character classes such as Youth Pastor, Street Preacher, Lay Minister, and Creation Scientist battle the forces of evil in exciting quests including witch hunts, sin posses, exorcisms, re-enactments of Bible stories, and securing our southern border from Catholic immigrant caravans. Prayers and sermons would increase in effectiveness as characters level up by leading upstanding lives, winning souls for Jesus, and glorifying God.

A game like this would eliminate all danger of promoting witchcraft and atheism and liberalism and Judaism and other evil behaviors, since the whole point of the game would be to put evildoers where they belong--in the eternally burning fires of Hell.

[WWJDnow]

Re: A Christian alternative to "Dungeons and Dragons"?

Whats so wrong about it? You can play as a paladin whos powers literally come from god. Im just presenting an easier alternative.

D&D is of the Devil, and the Devil is the Father of Lies. You are obviously being influenced (or maybe even possessed) by the Devil and demons, since you keep insisting that this evil game can be adapted for use by our children.

Shame on you! We are not exposing our kids to this kind of trash. They get only wholesome entertainment, such as Bible Story Pictionary and Pin the Horns on the Jew.

[thrrowaway]

Re: A Christian alternative to "Dungeons and Dragons"?

What is this gibberish? If it is some kind of witch's spell, the joke is on you. We here are armored by God against such devilish tricks and these words will have no effect.

Whats so wrong about it? You can play as a paladin whos powers literally come from god. Im just presenting an easier alternative.

[Alvin Moss]

Re: A Christian alternative to "Dungeons and Dragons"?

1. You can make a christian home brew for D&D, where you can work for god and take down satan or something like that.
2. This could theoretically work, but you would need to make stats to do things like agility and make monsters, which is why i would stick with 1. as alot of things are already premade, but you can make your own story and creatures, and if you DM, let your players be free. Give them a goal, but let them explore.

What is this gibberish? If it is some kind of witch's spell, the joke is on you. We here are armored by God against such devilish tricks and these words will have no effect.

[thrrowaway]

Re: A Christian alternative to "Dungeons and Dragons"?

As a True Christian, I expect to be provided a wholesome alternative to everything that offends me so I can still enjoy it without offending CHRIST.

I have my own Christian movie collection (I just bought another copy of "Fireproof" as Mrs. Fore wore out the previous one!), I have my Christian music collection, and my Christian book collection. I also have a Christian board game collection that includes such titles as "Bibleopoly" and "Journey to Canaan." (Such fun!)

I was reading my Chick tracts the other day when I found an old copy of the one dear Mr. Chick wrote about the role-playing board game "Dungeons and Dragons." I became even more outraged than usual when I realized that we have no Christian alternative to this hellish game!

If the devil can use "Dungeons and Dragons" to lure people into the occult, couldn't GOD use "Saviors and Sinners" to lure people into glory?

In "Saviors and Sinners" you could create your own evangelist character that moves around the board saving as many souls as he can. He could have special skills like Hellfire Sermonizing to reach especially vile sinners, throwing skills to stone unrepentent homosexuals, and detect mix fabrics, to tell if anybody nearby is wearing mixed fabrics. (Deut. 22:11)

I think this kind of game would really appeal to the kids and get them excited for CHRIST! Who can we boycott/petition to get this game made?

1. You can make a christian home brew for D&D, where you can work for god and take down satan or something like that.
2. This could theoretically work, but you would need to make stats to do things like agility and make monsters, which is why i would stick with 1. as alot of things are already premade, but you can make your own story and creatures, and if you DM, let your players be free. Give them a goal, but let them explore.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: A Christian alternative to "Dungeons and Dragons"?

Another good question!
You see, prayer is mostly used for conversion of DragonSlaves as well as strengthening one's one faith. Prayer is not for slaying, which is what you asked about previously.

As a vocational pedagogist (I home educate my children using naught but the world and the Word), I know that children learn through play. Little girls learn about nurture by playing with dolls. Little boys learn about provision and protection by playing Christians and Muslims (a modern variation of cops and robbers). This is why it's so important to keep them separated from the unsaved, lest they pick up their ways (1st Corinthians 10:20). Likewise, children learn to rebuke Satan in their play. We know prayer is a mighty slayer of demons for real, so why would you introduce a game that suggests prayer is useless?

You make the Armor of God to be spiritual equivalent to that of an armor of Duct Tape. You make it sound as if the Holy Bible cannot be trusted! Why do you think Jesus said that whoever is born of God does not sin, that Satan cannot tempt nor touch him (1 John 5:18) if He didn't really mean it? Why do you think the Holy Bible teaches us that he who is Born Again does not, nay cannot commit sin (1 John 3:5-9) if that's not true? By whose authority do you accuse Christ Jesus of being a Big, Fat, Liar, misleading Christians for thousands of years to sew confusion and division?

[NoviLigure]

Re: A Christian alternative to "Dungeons and Dragons"?

I completely agree Prof. White!
In my original post concerning DragonRaid I mentioned that it is a unique and creative way to encourage the children of our congregations to memorize their Bible passages so they might be even better equipped to witness to the masses of those who still need the love of God in their hearts. Proverbs 22:6
The game is simply a tool originally used for the devil but turned towards the Light of Faith in order to spread his message.