[xmenxx]

Re: Caught my son masturbating, what should I do?

Thanks John, but I won't be doing any intros, as I fully expect to be band after this post. Here's a little background, I was raised a Catholic, my parents were good people. Hardworking and lots friends and family. They were never serious religious people and Church was never a priority in our family. As I became educated from College and travel around the world religion became simply an set of man made traditions differently defined depending on what part of the world you were born/lived in. Yet all claimed to be the only true way, one claiming to be more right than the other. One closer to God than the other. All seem to defined God as an ego maniac. Man made ego of course, defined by men. Anyway I am not a man of faith, and never will be. I am a good person, I have very nice family, beautiful wife and daughter, we are all educated, hardworking, and caring people. I have a great job, work with some of the smartest people in this world in Silicon Valley, and do very well for myself. I stumbled across this site and post about beating his children and found it reprehensible that someone thought beating a child was the right way to raise them. I have never ever laid a hand on my daughter and she is one of the most polite, courteous, and respectful young ladies I have ever met, besides being an A student. I have never forced anything on her, only educated her as much as I could and let her make her own choices. If there is a God looking down on me, I know he'd be proud of the way I have raised her, whether I have believed in him or not.

My response to this post was in pure mockery of brother Alex for his boasting of beating his children. As you can see that is something I condemn. I wish you all the best and hope you can find the same light and strength in the your family and friends, that you have in your deity. I believe they are more important than him. And if there is a God, one that I can follow, when I meet him, he will completely understand my questioning his existence. If he can not understand, then he is no God to me.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Caught my son masturbating, what should I do?

This is a Christian forum. Why are you here?

[xmenxx]

Re: Caught my son masturbating, what should I do?

I thought the explanation was pretty clear in my 2nd post, of course if you read all of it.

[Mark L. Snyde, PhD]

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I thought the explanation was pretty clear in my 2nd post, of course if you read all of it.

Please read this topic to see how Godly parents discipline our children.

Look around our forums and you will see how God directs us in every aspect of our lives, all backed up by Holy Scripture.

[xmenxx]

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I can't for the life of me understand why anyone would think that torturing and innocent child will bring them closer to God. Childern are blank slates they become what there environment dictates. If you treat them with repeat voilence, torture, and beatings, I gaurantee you that you will reap from your child exactly what you sow into them. They will become a violent adults that will beat and torture their childern, the violence in your family will be passed from generation to generation. Children are a direct reflection of their parents, and if ignored by thier parents, they are direct reflection of the environment they have lived in. If you want a child to be compassionate, understanding, caring, and loving human being then you must treat them this way throughout their life. Discipline is a good thing to teach a child, but in no way shape or form does it require beating and torturing. Consistency is needed by children to learn good habits. When you are consistent then the child learns to be consistent, and this can be done with love and teaching. Cranky Old man should be condemn for his thinking, but then again it was beat into him by his Father and he understands no other way. I can promise you there is another way and the results will be a confident, caring, and loving human being, the greatest gift you could ever give to God. What diety who calls himself God would not want this? I could never follow a God the requires beating and torturing the Children of his flock. NEVER.

[Mark L. Snyde, PhD]

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...I could never follow a God the requires beating and torturing the Children of his flock. NEVER.

Well then, enjoy hell.

Hey, look what God did to His own Son, and then tell me a little beating and torture is asking too much of us?

[xmenxx]

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God didn't do that to his son, men did. The shame of man to treat each other in such a manner.

I know I won't be in Hell for the way I have raised my daughter, I can't think of a better human being. If God does not believe in treating Children with love and caring, then he can burn in it.

[Jack Rankan]

Re: Caught my son masturbating, what should I do?

God didn't do that to his son, men did. The shame of man to treat each other in such a manner.

I know I won't be in Hell for the way I have raised my daughter, I can't think of a better human being. If God does not believe in treating Children with love and caring, then he can burn in it.

Proverbs 26:3 A whip for the horse, a bridle for the ass, and a rod for the fool's back.

Now go and make an introduction thread, telling us what church you are going to, what is your favorite Bible verse and how have you found Jesus.

[Alphonse Alban]

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God didn't do that to his son, men did

Of course God killed Himself. God and Jesus are the same.
God send Himself on earth as His only son so He could be killed by joos in order for Him to die on behalf of our sins so He could save us from Himself.

If God does not believe in treating Children with love and caring, then he can burn in it.

Of course God want us to love our sons. If we do not use rod on them we hate them. Just like God says it, beating your son with rod is an act of love.

Proverbs 13:24 He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes.

[xmenxx]

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Jack, you didn't read my earlier post.

You don't need to beat someone to show them love. As I said you can discipline a child without beating or abusing them.

I wish you all the best, but my heart goes out to your children.

[Jack Rankan]

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Jack, you didn't read my earlier post.

You don't need to beat someone to show them love. As I said you can discipline a child without beating or abusing them.

I wish you all the best, but my heart goes out to your children.

Proverbs 23:13 Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die.

Proverbs 29:15 - The rod and reproof give wisdom: but a child left [to himself] bringeth his mother to shame.

Proverbs 29:17 - Correct thy son, and he shall give thee rest; yea, he shall give delight unto thy soul.

Proverbs 23:14 - Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell.

It's Gods word. He gave us specific instructions and we as Christians must obey them. God is not some hippy, He wishes to save our children from Hell, but you it seams have only one desire - sending your children to Hell. What kind of monster are you?

[xmenxx]

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Is it Monstrous to treat your child with love and caring? Really?

This is not God's word, it was written by men in the 'Stone Age'.

[Jack Rankan]

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And now you are a blasphemer

[Didymus Much]

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Is it Monstrous to treat your child with love and caring? Really? ...

If you care more for your child's weak, frail, temporal body than the fate of his/her eternal soul, what does that say about you as a parent?

...This is not God's word, it was written by men in the 'Stone Age'.

Late Bronze Age, actually.

And of course it was written down by men, but the Bible says they were inspired by God:

2 Timothy 3:16 "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:"

[xmenxx]

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I am confident in my daughters fate. She been given all the tools she needs in life.

Glad you agree that it was written by men.