[Alphonse Alban]

Re: The Moomins – One step away from being Satan's concubine

Seriously, stop posting while drunk.

I just throw satanic US flag thing and it went through, it was the only when you had to agree and you were not preparared to agree and to have a dialog, busted.

Was this your "satanic" flag?

BTW, there are Pentagons in your flag and 13 stripes, please explain

The 13 does not represent any luck in a Christian context

By the way, this is Pentagon


Was this the part where your "satanic" flag went through?

There are no pentagons on the US flag, assuming that this is what you are referring to. I think you may have meant pentagrams, and there are none of those either. They are simply 5 pointed stars

What does bible say about number 13? Show me the verse where it is forbidden or against God.

So what exactly went through and where?

[Alphonse Alban]

Re: The Moomins – One step away from being Satan's concubine

You were too active, you almost got me. Infractions were good, but together with activity they rose my suspicion and 'try to Focus', I think that my neo-pagan friend is laughing, she introduced me to this

No idea what you are talking about again.
What does exactly infraction you received have to do with me?

[FinnTrek]

Re: The Moomins – One step away from being Satan's concubine

I bet you are Swedish, HC satanic things= quite good, but they also rose my suspicion
I just throw satanic US flag thing and it went through, it was the only when you had to agree and you were not preparared to agree and to have a dialog, busted. So you are not trying to practise dialog here, but you should.

[Alphonse Alban]

Re: The Moomins – One step away from being Satan's concubine

And you seem to irritated and blaming me without basis, it is quite clear who is winning which seems to be very important to you.

Remember that Holy Spirit do not lie ever, so I know that there are some comments which are my opinion, but I have been truthfull.

Excuse me? Please, show me any part where I have been irritated or blamed you for no reason. You avoided every question you were asked about your arguments. Winning, when did I say anything about winning?

Yes. Moomins! It was you who started ranting about flags today, not me. It was you who told Finnish flag represent Christians, atheists and neo-pagans in Finland. Please, try to even follow what you have said yourself.

As I said, try to focus.This thread is about the Moomins.

[FinnTrek]

Re: The Moomins – One step away from being Satan's concubine

Please, you said at age of 13 they usually start learning witchcraft. That was the only thing you knew about number 13? Where are all those Satanic cults you were so shocked that I knew nothing of? Are you seriously saying that there were only Catlicks, Greek Caltlicks and Coptic church with question mark?

Seriously, you had answer to this thread window open for 30 minutes and this is only thing you could come up with. Pathetic.

If you have no idea what are you taking about, don't use it as argument. You appear less stupid when you just admit that you don't know, than coming up with some 5th hand knowledge about something that someone might have said in Wikipedia sometime.

You should remember this in the future. It saves you from lot of embarrassment.

Oh, you might want to pay little attention to titles as well. This one is The Moomins – One step away from being Satan's concubine. So this thread is about the Moomins.

Don't worry, you are not the only heathen who has tried to play smart-ass with us and failed.

YiC,

Alphonse

You did not answer my question ' about true Christian movement'
And you seem to irritated and blaming me without basis, it is quite clear who is winning which seems to be very important to you.

Remember that Holy Spirit do not lie ever, so I know that there are some comments which are my opinion, but I have been truthfull.

Blaming me to be a 'pagan' is your and your God's problem, that comment speaks for itself.

Is the 'fallen' Finnish flag about Moomins?

I just like Moomins and I have not found anything why I should not let my kids to watch them.

[Alphonse Alban]

Re: The Moomins – One step away from being Satan's concubine

'true Christian movement' in that time, there was none, the Greek Catholics, Goptic Church?

I answered you about 13, for me Wicca is bad enough.

Please, you said at age of 13 they usually start learning witchcraft. That was the only thing you knew about number 13? Where are all those Satanic cults you were so shocked that I knew nothing of? Are you seriously saying that there were only Catlicks, Greek Caltlicks and Coptic church with question mark?

Seriously, you had answer to this thread window open for 30 minutes and this is only thing you could come up with. Pathetic.

If you have no idea what are you taking about, don't use it as argument. You appear less stupid when you just admit that you don't know, than coming up with some 5th hand knowledge about something that someone might have said in Wikipedia sometime.

You should remember this in the future. It saves you from lot of embarrassment.

Oh, you might want to pay little attention to titles as well. This one is The Moomins – One step away from being Satan's concubine. So this thread is about the Moomins.

Don't worry, you are not the only heathen who has tried to play smart-ass with us and failed.

YiC,

Alphonse

[FinnTrek]

Re: The Moomins – One step away from being Satan's concubine

Try to focus you nimrod. Vatican has nothing to do with Christianity. They are filthy idolators and Mary-worshipers.

Again I asked



I did not ask about some Harry Potter crap

Fine, after you have answered my original question about these Satanic cults you were talking about, please do tell me how many Wicca covens have you seen with 13 witches. Why is number 13 important to them?

Seriously, try to focus. You haven't been able to answer single question asked so far. Are you trying to make Finnish look really stupid?

I bet you are Swedish.

In year 1157 the Catholic Church representend the secural power (with all sinful problems) and the Christianity, so what was the 'true Christian movement' in that time, there was none, the Greek Catholics, Goptic Church?

I answered you about 13, for me Wicca is bad enough.

I just do not understand your motive to attack other Christian countries, finding your enemies far away. You must have some internal problems in your church because you do not concentrate to your own sinful mind and following the Gospel's way. Why do you not concentrate in US or in non-Christian countries?

There are problems in Finland against Christianity, but you have not mentioned even one of the real problems. But I bet that every country has their own spiritual problems, the others just do not get.

BTW

Liberals = could be a saved Christian as well as Conservatives could

[Alphonse Alban]

Re: The Moomins – One step away from being Satan's concubine

words Jesus said: "Take up your cross and follow me" (Mark 8:34).

Take your heresy out of here. Bible says nothing of that sort.

Mark 8:34 says "And when he had called the people unto him with his disciples also, he said unto them, Whosoever will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me."

[Alphonse Alban]

Re: The Moomins – One step away from being Satan's concubine

So it must have been the Christian cross, because the Eric wanted to please and justify his conquer of Finland to Vatican, this motive has been discussed widely.

Try to focus you nimrod. Vatican has nothing to do with Christianity. They are filthy idolators and Mary-worshipers.

Again I asked

About the other matter, no I did not know. Please, do tell us to what Satanic cults number 13 is so important and why?

I did not ask about some Harry Potter crap

Fine, after you have answered my original question about these Satanic cults you were talking about, please do tell me how many Wicca covens have you seen with 13 witches. Why is number 13 important to them?

Seriously, try to focus. You haven't been able to answer single question asked so far. Are you trying to make Finnish look really stupid?

I bet you are Swedish.

[dementialies]

Re: The Moomins – One step away from being Satan's concubine

Wow ignorance really is bliss. The cross is not "fallen". Perhaps if you knew a little bit more about history than just what you've read in the bible (which is chock full of historical innaccuracies) you would know that the cross is a horizontal form of the Latin Cross, often refered to in jewelry as a Sideways Cross. There is no particular meaning to this orientation; however, if you really want to have a meaning for a sideways cross, one interpretation is a response to the words Jesus said: "Take up your cross and follow me" (Mark 8:34). The cross was the instrument of torture and death; for Jesus this meant not only his physical death but also the spiritual death for our sins. After that, as you know, he rose to heaven. So "Take up your cross and follow me" is the invitation from Jesus to kill our sins and follow Jesus on the path to heaven. (See the Meaning of the Cross). If somebody takes up their cross and follows Jesus to the end of their days, when they die their relatives might honour that person by showing their cross has been carried to the end and it is symbolically laid down. (Crosses are usually erect on gravestones, but sometimes there are horizontal, resting on the grave.)

When carried in battle, a short flagpole is obviously lighter and stronger than a long one. So for a given length of flagpole, a horizontal rectangular flag is larger than a vertical rectangular or square flag. This has resulted in most national flags having a horizontal rectangle shape and a Horizontal Cross simply follows that shape.

The Finnish Flag is derived from the Dannebrog Cross (also known as the Nordic Cross) which is the basis for all flags in Scandinavia. These include the flags of Finland, Norway, Sweden, Skåneland, Faroe Islands (Denmark), Åland Islands (Finland), plus neighbouring places that are not always considered Scandinavian, such as the Shetland Islands (Scotland), Orkney (Scotland), and Iceland.

[FinnTrek]

Re: The Moomins – One step away from being Satan's concubine

Note, WIKI and MYTHOLOGY. Even wikipedia continues, "Other historians claim that the Swedish flag was blue with a white cross before 1420, and became blue with a golden cross only during the early reign of King Gustaf Vasa, who successfully liberated Sweden from the temporary tyranny of the Danish King Christian II in 1521"

How is this relevant anyway? Question was, why did Finland put defaced cross in their flag?



What does bible say about number 13? Show me the verse where it is forbidden or against God.

About the other matter, no I did not know. Please, do tell us to what Satanic cults number 13 is so important and why?

So it must have been the Christian cross, because the Eric wanted to please and justify his conquer of Finland to Vatican, this motive has been discussed widely.

Finnish flag horizontal: the practical reasons, because the flags are horizontal?!?

13:
13 is the age that a Pagan or Wiccan usually starts to learn Witchcraft.
Traditionally, there are 13 witches in a Wiccan coven
and freemasonry

[Alphonse Alban]

Re: The Moomins – One step away from being Satan's concubine

Wiki:According to the mythology, the 12th century Swedish king Eric the Holy saw a golden cross in the sky as he landed in Finland during the First Swedish Crusade in 1157. Seeing this as a sign from God he adopted the golden cross against a blue background as his banner, though the golden cross was changed later to a yellow cross due to practicality.

Note, WIKI and MYTHOLOGY. Even wikipedia continues, "Other historians claim that the Swedish flag was blue with a white cross before 1420, and became blue with a golden cross only during the early reign of King Gustaf Vasa, who successfully liberated Sweden from the temporary tyranny of the Danish King Christian II in 1521"

How is this relevant anyway? Question was, why did Finland put defaced cross in their flag?

13 is the very important number in a freemasonry and in satanic cults, don't you know that?

What does bible say about number 13? Show me the verse where it is forbidden or against God.

About the other matter, no I did not know. Please, do tell us to what Satanic cults number 13 is so important and why?

[FinnTrek]

Re: The Moomins – One step away from being Satan's concubine

Are you trying to suggest that there are thirteen colonies because the pilgrims were masons? The flag was made long after the colonies were founded.

Yes, there are numerous webpages linked to it, but honestly I do not know the US history accurate, I am a Finn, so it is nice to hear that they were not necessarely linked.

[Nobar King]

Re: The Moomins – One step away from being Satan's concubine

13 is the very important number in a freemasonry and in satanic cults, don't you know that?

Are you trying to suggest that there are thirteen colonies because the pilgrims were masons? The flag was made long after the colonies were founded.

[FinnTrek]

Re: The Moomins – One step away from being Satan's concubine

In what Christian context 13 represents unlucky, or anything in that matter?
What exactly are the pagan symbols for pagan god in US flag?

13 is the very important number in a freemasonry and in satanic cults, don't you know that?