[Basilissa]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

piffle you all! I can't believe you claim the name of God and say things like this! I don't care if you ban me with your propaganda about be damned to Hell! You're incredibly misguided and lost and you're sexist and racist and you treat the unbelieving like dirt, and all the while you claim it's the way of God.

I will be most obliged if you show me that's wrong. Using appropriate Scripture as evidence, please.

I don't know what kind of mad stick you have stuck up your asses, but somehow you think whatever you want and take the Bible horribly out of context to support it.

It will be helpful if you show how we take the Bible "horribly out of context" instead of just throwing empty accusations.

Proverbs 19:5 - A false witness shall not be unpunished, and [he that] speaketh lies shall not escape.

You think wife-beating is acceptable and think that you can be damned for merely seeing something wrong.

I'm feeling a strange déjà vu right now, but may I suggest that you use the Bible to justify your statements?

And all the while, under the guise of helping others.

You think you're working for Christ, but in the same way that you have spoken about others, you're decieved in your Christianity, and you're leading others astray.

How is reading and obeying the Bible deceitful?

I know that you won't exhale at my banning. You'll hate me, and laugh because you'll think I'm condemned to Hell. I don't care. I know that I am in Christ.

Yeah. The one you imagined in your head. That's cute, but the problem is that Jesus is not a fluffy-bunny free-love-for-all hippie type.

Don't trust me? Just read the Bible!!

Didymus on these forums recently told me that it didn't matter what [certain bands he disliked] claimed, Jesus knew the truth of their salvation. And he was right. And I fear that all of you shall pay for this.

For having a different taste in music than you do? That's a bit weird, don't you think?

All of you here are arrogant, acting like you know the will of God,

And what gives us that certainty? The fact that we read and obey the Holy Bible!

Really, you should try doing it sometime!

that you're the only way, that Baptists are pure. But that's just your bloated pride. You like citing verses, here's one that's relevant: God opposes the proud, but gives grace to the humble.

Your arrogance, either now, or in the next lifetime, will bring God's all-consuming wrath upon you, as it would have fallen upon me and my brothers and sisters, had we resisted His Glory. He opposes the arrogant and the proud just as much as he opposes the Devil himself. It burns me on the inside, to know that you will be deceived, and that even in this I can make no difference. But it is all I can do to simply say these things, and leave you to whatever you will.

But I'll be praying for you because the LORD has called me to.

Whoa!

That rant seemed a bit arrogant, don't ya think?

Pardon my language in the message. I pray that you will find the way, and that you can be woven into His glorious plan as a member of the Kingdom, and not an unsuspecting servant of Satan.

Sorry to break this to you, but your prayer will fall on deaf ears:

John 9:31 Now we know that God heareth not sinners: but if any man be a worshipper of God, and doeth his will, him he heareth.

Remember the wages of sin.

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I will pray for your lost and confused soul.

[johnraymond]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

piffle you all! I can't believe you claim the name of God and say things like this! I don't care if you ban me with your propaganda about be damned to Hell! You're incredibly misguided and lost and you're sexist and racist and you treat the unbelieving like dirt, and all the while you claim it's the way of God. I don't know what kind of mad stick you have stuck up your asses, but somehow you think whatever you want and take the Bible horribly out of context to support it. You think wife-beating is acceptable and think that you can be damned for merely seeing something wrong. And all the while, under the guise of helping others.

You think you're working for Christ, but in the same way that you have spoken about others, you're decieved in your Christianity, and you're leading others astray.

I know that you won't exhale at my banning. You'll hate me, and laugh because you'll think I'm condemned to Hell. I don't care. I know that I am in Christ.

Didymus on these forums recently told me that it didn't matter what [certain bands he disliked] claimed, Jesus knew the truth of their salvation. And he was right. And I fear that all of you shall pay for this.

All of you here are arrogant, acting like you know the will of God, that you're the only way, that Baptists are pure. But that's just your bloated pride. You like citing verses, here's one that's relevant: God opposes the proud, but gives grace to the humble.

Your arrogance, either now, or in the next lifetime, will bring God's all-consuming wrath upon you, as it would have fallen upon me and my brothers and sisters, had we resisted His Glory. He opposes the arrogant and the proud just as much as he opposes the Devil himself. It burns me on the inside, to know that you will be deceived, and that even in this I can make no difference. But it is all I can do to simply say these things, and leave you to whatever you will.

But I'll be praying for you because the LORD has called me to. Pardon my language in the message. I pray that you will find the way, and that you can be woven into His glorious plan as a member of the Kingdom, and not an unsuspecting servant of Satan.

Remember the wages of sin.

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[Didymus Much]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

...I slapped his ass to the ground telling him that his "illness" was a sin...

Ok, then, the next step (if you want to continue claiming to be a Bible-believing Christian) is to turn yourself into the closest police station, confess your crime, and gladly accept any punishment.


1st Peter 2:13 Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme;
1st Peter 2:14 Or unto governors, as unto them that are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers, and for the praise of them that do well.
1st Peter 2:15 For so is the will of God, that with well doing ye may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men:

[DemocratsAreHeretics]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

Couldn't agree more. Once I saw a downy boy playing with the pigeons in the park. I slapped his ass to the ground telling him that his "illness" was a sin. These retards should be called bastards, as they have rejected their Father.

[Joanna Lytton-Vasey]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

Well, that's not the most helpful thing I've seen. Where did you cut and paste it from, dear? I only ask because it's quite unusual to see references to Dr Strabismus (whom God preserve) of Utrecht on these forums.

[The legend 27]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

I hope this is satire
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[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

I don't mind posting Scripture and helping others to see the value of God's word. God. Who made the whole heaven and earth, light, the firmament, grass and fruit trees. Later on He made the sun and the moon.

He made the stars also.

That's some creative endeavour right there! Now when somebody makes something, I could make a wool jacket for example, they know everything about what they've made. I would know how the wool was spun because I'd spun it. I'd know how many stitches across the shoulder because I'd measured the shoulder width and selected the needle size and combined 2 or 3 colours of wool into a 2- or 3-ply yarn and counted how many stitches that would need and then checked the first row after casting on etc. etc., I'm sure you get the idea.

God knows everything about the universe BECAUSE HE MADE IT.

There is sin at the bottom of all this, as sin is passed over many generations. God did warn us about that!

. . . . . . .…

The ancestors made a choice to sin and, thus, they chose to produce a child affected by that sin.

What would you do if a child you had was cursed with Downsyndrome, would you have no choice but to blame your own sins for his unfortunate disability and feel sorry for the poor chap for having such a despise because of you?

The sections I've highlighted are marked in yellow. So no, I wouldn't blame myself. I'd need to blame my parents or grandparents or great-grandparents or my great-great-grandparents.

It is true that certain types, doctors and the like, would prefer us to trust in them. Man is renowned for putting himself before God, thinking he knows better than the creator of the universe. Better than the LORD God Almighty who made him. God explains it this way:

JEREMIAH 17:5 Thus saith the LORD; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the LORD.
context..KJV

[Joanna Lytton-Vasey]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

The most common form of Down syndrome is known as trisomy 21, a condition where individuals have 47 chromosomes in each cell instead of 46. Trisomy 21 is caused by an error in cell division called nondisjunction, which leaves a sperm or egg cell with an extra copy of chromosome 21 before or at conception.

Wow, you are very science-y, aren't you? Just plum full of the old knowledge! Oh, hang on, what exact same words do I see on this page right here?

It is generally good manners to attribute quotes to their author. See what Professor White has done in his post? Well, like that. Otherwise, people might think you actually knew something and be pretty disgusted when they found out that you were a cheat.

Proverbs 19:1 Better is the poor that walketh in his integrity, than he that is perverse in his lips, and is a fool.

[Elmer G. White]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

What would you do if a child you had was cursed with Downsyndrome, would you have no choice but to blame your own sins for his unfortunate disability and feel sorry for the poor chap for having such a despise because of you?

I'd cure the child with prayer, of course!

Matthew 10:8
Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give.

John 14:14
If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.

It only requires just a tiny little bit of Faith! Apparently, that has become scarce in this World that Jesus will soon dismantle!

Matthew 17:20
And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you.




Yours in Christ,

Elmer

[StevenKreig]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

Of course that is the proximate reason for this form of sin-derived disease. That is common knowledge. Why would it be a problem for an omnipotent God (Revelation 19:6) to arrange the genome of an embryo in that manner to punish it from the sins committed in its bloodline? There is sin at the bottom of all this, as sin is passed over many generations. God did warn us about that!

Exodus 20:5
Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

The ancestors made a choice to sin and, thus, they chose to produce a child affected by that sin. God's rules are simple. And, yes, it was written thousands of years ago, plenty of time for people to Repent and to choose Jesus!


Yours in Christ,

Elmer

What would you do if a child you had was cursed with Downsyndrome, would you have no choice but to blame your own sins for his unfortunate disability and feel sorry for the poor chap for having such a despise because of you?

[Elmer G. White]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

The most common form of Down syndrome is known as trisomy 21, a condition where individuals have 47 chromosomes in each cell instead of 46. Trisomy 21 is caused by an error in cell division called nondisjunction, which leaves a sperm or egg cell with an extra copy of chromosome 21 before or at conception. Unfortunately this wasnt in a book that was written thousands of years ago by some random people that everyone believed. Feels Bad Man

Of course that is the proximate reason for this form of sin-derived disease. That is common knowledge. Why would it be a problem for an omnipotent God (Revelation 19:6) to arrange the genome of an embryo in that manner to punish it from the sins committed in its bloodline? There is sin at the bottom of all this, as sin is passed over many generations. God did warn us about that!

Exodus 20:5
Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

The ancestors made a choice to sin and, thus, they chose to produce a child affected by that sin. God's rules are simple. And, yes, it was written thousands of years ago, plenty of time for people to Repent and to choose Jesus!


Yours in Christ,

Elmer

[StevenKreig]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

The most common form of Down syndrome is known as trisomy 21, a condition where individuals have 47 chromosomes in each cell instead of 46. Trisomy 21 is caused by an error in cell division called nondisjunction, which leaves a sperm or egg cell with an extra copy of chromosome 21 before or at conception. Unfortunately this wasnt in a book that was written thousands of years ago by some random people that everyone believed. Feels Bad Man

[Didymus Much]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

...Do try your best to justify yourself, using ANY MEANS, not just your Bible or Torah

Why?

[Crazy at Heart]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

Not trying to sound rude, but have you ever picked up a biology or genetics textbook? Even HIGH SCHOOL textbooks have this:
"The most common form of Down syndrome is known as trisomy 21, a condition where individuals have 47 chromosomes in each cell instead of 46. Trisomy 21 is caused by an error in cell division called nondisjunction, which leaves a sperm or egg cell with an extra copy of chromosome 21 before or at conception."

Do try your best to justify yourself, using ANY MEANS, not just your Bible or Torah

[Des]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

CONFIRMED! I AGREE.i was struck by this unfortunate illness of the mind. I chose to act like this to spite the Lord God Almighty. i truly repent and after 3 months of conversion therapy (including stoning and live burning!) i was able to be saved. this forum was part of what changed me and i want to thank you for the opportunity to be welcomed to worship with you.

Yours is truly an inspiring story, much like one I reported on some months ago. The original can be found here.

It is high time America makes a stand and stops enabling these leeches on society. Boycott death metal bands like The Syndrome of a Down and The Kid Rock that glamorize this laziness.