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Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!
Fashionable "science". Last time I checked down syndrome was caused by "chromosome abnormality". Now it's lack of oxygen. What's next, vitamin deficiency? Are you really so gullible to believe in this nonsense? Secular science is a money machine! Why don't you open a Bible instead, to learn about what really causes sickness and disease and, more importantly, what brings healing?Originally posted by S4T4N_ View PostEveryone here must not have been raised correctly if you believe anything your church has taught you. Every single one of you must not be right in the head. Science has proven down syndrome and many of the other disabilities you have mentioned here to problems with the brain, such as lack of oxygen during child birth.
And said, If thou wilt diligently hearken to the voice of the Lord thy God, and wilt do that which is right in his sight, and wilt give ear to his commandments, and keep all his statutes, I will put none of these diseases upon thee, which I have brought upon the Egyptians: for I am the Lord that healeth thee. - Exodus 15:26
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Please, I'm begging you: go to one of your precious science forums and post there how Down Syndrome is caused by umbilical cords.Originally posted by S4T4N_ View PostScience has proven down syndrome and many of the other disabilities you have mentioned here to problems with the brain, such as lack of oxygen during child birth. Tell me dear ones, can a child choose to have an umbilical cord wrapped around its neck during the birth?

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We put our faith in God, whose handiwork can be seen everywhere you look:Originally posted by S4T4N_ View PostEveryone here must not have been raised correctly if you believe anything your church has taught you. Every single one of you must not be right in the head. Science has proven down syndrome and many of the other disabilities you have mentioned here to problems with the brain, such as lack of oxygen during child birth. Tell me dear ones, can a child choose to have an umbilical cord wrapped around its neck during the birth? I hope you all burn in your non-existent hell. Bye.
You put your blind faith in science, an organized system of ignorance backed by nothing.Colossians 1:16 (1611 King James Bible)
For by him were all things created that are in heauen, and that are in earth, visible and inuisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him.
Who's not right in the head again?
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Everyone here must not have been raised correctly if you believe anything your church has taught you. Every single one of you must not be right in the head. Science has proven down syndrome and many of the other disabilities you have mentioned here to problems with the brain, such as lack of oxygen during child birth. Tell me dear ones, can a child choose to have an umbilical cord wrapped around its neck during the birth? I hope you all burn in your non-existent hell. Bye.
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Do you seriously believe in the "chromosomes" fairy tale? Have you ever seen one of those chromosomes for real? I don't think so. Please stick to verifiable facts. If you cannot touch it and it isn't in the Bible, it doesn't exist. Surprisingly simple.Originally posted by superairsoft117 View Posti can believe what i just read.... Downs syndrome is a choice! it is not caused when the chromosomes are not copied correctly during pregnancy and the child gets an extra one. they have a choice that they are that way. they are not born like that. its simple biology. there is a way to choose to have down syndrome just like there is a way to chose to be gay.
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i can believe what i just read.... Downs syndrome is a choice! it is not caused when the chromosomes are not copied correctly during pregnancy and the child gets an extra one. they have a choice that they are that way. they are not born like that. its simple biology. there is a way to choose to have down syndrome just like there is a way to chose to be gay.
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Listen up, Dingleberry. The poster with letters behind her name is a liar about her credentials. Why, I'll bet that she doesn't even know David Alexander or John Grigsby. Besides this the post was made by a man.Originally posted by Klinker View PostFirstly they are scientific words behind her name (not that you would have a clue what any of them mean and she is not being pompous she is sharing her professional opinion.
Secondly IF god was real and all powerful do you not think he could last a few days of pain or make it so that he didnt feel any pain
Thirdly if god had a problem with people with down syndrome do you not think he would do something about it instead of sitting on a cloud watching this argument go back and forth
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Firstly, go ahead and google "Dean J. MacCannell, M.D. - Neurogenetics of Pediatric Motor Disorders Research Program and Neuromuscular Electrodiagnostic Laboratory." I'll wait.Originally posted by Kinkger View PostFirstly they are scientific words behind her name (not that you would have a clue what any of them mean and she is not being pompous she is sharing her professional opinion.
Secondly IF god was real and all powerful do you not think he could last a few days of pain or make it so that he didnt feel any pain
Thirdly if god had a problem with people with down syndrome do you not think he would do something about it instead of sitting on a cloud watching this argument go back and forth
Secondly, that's my point. He could have done all those things, but He didn't. He endured hour after hour of excruciating pain for these little ingrates, and they don't bother enough to mumble a "thanks, whatever."
Thirdly, God isn't sitting on a cloud but on a Throne (Hebrews 12:2), and He will enjoy tossing them into the very Lake of Fire come Judgement Day!
And I will praise Him until then, and for all eternity after!
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Friend, no Christian has an 'opinion'. We have the Holy Bible that tells us what to think.Originally posted by Kinkger View PostFirstly they are scientific words behind her name (not that you would have a clue what any of them mean and she is not being pompous she is sharing her professional opinion.
A few days (for a mortal person) to God is a blink of an eye to Him. Furthermore, feeling pain, like feeling good, is merely a sensation and having sensation is pleasant. Are you that much of a cold hearted bastard that feelings are to be denied?Secondly IF god was real and all powerful do you not think he could last a few days of pain or make it so that he didnt feel any pain
Friend, retards are retarded out of choice, just like queers like rectal penetration. God gave us all free will to do as we please. Just know that if you disobey God, you will suffer an eternity in Hell.Thirdly if god had a problem with people with down syndrome do you not think he would do something about it instead of sitting on a cloud watching this argument go back and forth
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Firstly they are scientific words behind her name (not that you would have a clue what any of them mean and she is not being pompous she is sharing her professional opinion.Originally posted by Mary Etheldreda View PostYour pretend righteous indignation is noted, Mr Pretend I'm A Doctor on The Internet, but let's cut to the chase here and focus on the real victim here:

Do you really think it was easy for God to sacrifice Himself to Himself, to "give up the ghost" as they say, for three whole days? Do you think that hanging on the cross, nails in his hands and feet, a crown of thorns on his head, practically naked for everyone to see his holy willy, was a day in the park for him? How would you like it if you had taken on the burden of paying the debt for sin, knowing you could turn all the giggling Jews into toads with the blink of an eye, or even change the whole debt/eternal damnation rule that you made up so long ago, but instead deciding to restrain yourself? Who has that kind of restraint? What mere human could walk away from that without being totally messed up? And you have the audacity to defend the retards who refuse to even acknowledge God's Saving Grace, who refuse to give up their selfish game of Oh Look At Me! I'm So Cute And Always Smiling Like A Human Teddy Bear![/sarcasm] You would do well to look into your own heart, Mr. Throw A Bunch Of Sciency Sounding Words Behind My Name Because I'm Terribly Pompous, and focus on your own sin before defending others.

Secondly IF god was real and all powerful do you not think he could last a few days of pain or make it so that he didnt feel any pain
Thirdly if god had a problem with people with down syndrome do you not think he would do something about it instead of sitting on a cloud watching this argument go back and forth
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Your pretend righteous indignation is noted, Mr Pretend I'm A Doctor on The Internet, but let's cut to the chase here and focus on the real victim here:Originally posted by Dean MacCannell View PostThe purposed allegations of a condition such as Down Syndrome as having been a "lifestyle" choice is utterly demeaning to all of said victims of this diagnosis. Having worked with these individuals personally throughout the years, it disgusts me to see these comments so degrading, and abysmally ignorant in the ability to understand simple genetic code or mutations, yet debasing all knowledge about said topics while attempting to remain legitimate is slightly humorous.
Someone who has never dealt with a science based class since High School, or even early College about a basic understanding of the principles underlying genome analyses has not the slightest clue in what is going on in someones body and should not be permitted to make such assumptions. When you have examined the fundamentals of sequence alignment, phylogenetic analyses, genome annotation, gene prediction, and gene expression data in a field such as Down Syndrome to formulate a reason why this condition is a lifestyle and not a genetically based alteration among altered meiotic recombination, then you may come and debate upon this subject matter.
I hope I have not wasted my time here to argue something in which I do not even know if someone actually believes this theory of lifestyle, or a massive fallacy proclaiming as such just to evoke such retort. Alas, I will not be commenting further beyond this as I will have probably forgotten I'd written this after tonight's meal. G'day~
Dean J. MacCannell, M.D. - Neurogenetics of Pediatric Motor Disorders Research Program and Neuromuscular Electrodiagnostic Laboratory

Do you really think it was easy for God to sacrifice Himself to Himself, to "give up the ghost" as they say, for three whole days? Do you think that hanging on the cross, nails in his hands and feet, a crown of thorns on his head, practically naked for everyone to see his holy willy, was a day in the park for him? How would you like it if you had taken on the burden of paying the debt for sin, knowing you could turn all the giggling Jews into toads with the blink of an eye, or even change the whole debt/eternal damnation rule that you made up so long ago, but instead deciding to restrain yourself? Who has that kind of restraint? What mere human could walk away from that without being totally messed up? And you have the audacity to defend the retards who refuse to even acknowledge God's Saving Grace, who refuse to give up their selfish game of Oh Look At Me! I'm So Cute And Always Smiling Like A Human Teddy Bear![/sarcasm] You would do well to look into your own heart, Mr. Throw A Bunch Of Sciency Sounding Words Behind My Name Because I'm Terribly Pompous, and focus on your own sin before defending others.
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You should probably read this thread then.Originally posted by Dean MacCannell View PostAlas, I will not be commenting further beyond this as I will have probably forgotten I'd written this after tonight's meal.
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Friend, that would be the biggest mistake of your life. How about hopping off that high and mighty horse of yours and having a little talk with us? I'll excuse your improper introduction for the moment because I can feel your heart crying out for some divine intervention.Originally posted by Dean MacCannell View Postblah blah blah Alas, I will not be commenting further beyond this as I will have probably forgotten I'd written this after tonight's meal. G'day~
Dean J. MacCannell, self-important titles
Yours in Christ,
Z. Smyth
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The purposed allegations of a condition such as Down Syndrome as having been a "lifestyle" choice is utterly demeaning to all of said victims of this diagnosis. Having worked with these individuals personally throughout the years, it disgusts me to see these comments so degrading, and abysmally ignorant in the ability to understand simple genetic code or mutations, yet debasing all knowledge about said topics while attempting to remain legitimate is slightly humorous.
Someone who has never dealt with a science based class since High School, or even early College about a basic understanding of the principles underlying genome analyses has not the slightest clue in what is going on in someones body and should not be permitted to make such assumptions. When you have examined the fundamentals of sequence alignment, phylogenetic analyses, genome annotation, gene prediction, and gene expression data in a field such as Down Syndrome to formulate a reason why this condition is a lifestyle and not a genetically based alteration among altered meiotic recombination, then you may come and debate upon this subject matter.
I hope I have not wasted my time here to argue something in which I do not even know if someone actually believes this theory of lifestyle, or a massive fallacy proclaiming as such just to evoke such retort. Alas, I will not be commenting further beyond this as I will have probably forgotten I'd written this after tonight's meal. G'day~
Dean J. MacCannell, M.D. - Neurogenetics of Pediatric Motor Disorders Research Program and Neuromuscular Electrodiagnostic Laboratory
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