[juliet]

Re: Wives!! Stay in your abusive marriage!!

What a great message. The Bible never said "irreconcilable differences" was a reason to get divorced.

I'd say it is abuse not to beat your wife. Can you imagine the tremendous emotional scarring caused by a lack of beating? Beating her lets her know that you care enough about her to want to make the marriage work, and that you want her to improve.

perfectly explained!

[Eli Celina]

Re: Wives!! Stay in your abusive marriage!!

Well, people, I think it's not right to "abuse" your wife or even beat her! If you love her, why would you want her to feel pain? Aren't words enough to make her learn from the mistake, if she does something wrong?

Eph. 5:23-32

For the husband is the head of the wife, euen as Christ is the head of the Church: and he is the sauiour of the body.
Therefore as the Church is subiect vnto Christ, so let the wiues bee to their owne husbands in euery thing.
Husbands, loue your wiues, euen as Christ also loued the Church, and gaue himselfe for it:
That he might sanctifie & cleanse it with the washing of water, by the word,
That hee might present it to himselfe a glorious Church, not hauing spot or wrinckle, or any such thing: but that it should bee holy and without blemish.
So ought men to loue their wiues, as their owne bodies: hee that loueth his wife, loueth himselfe.
For no man euer yet hated his owne flesh: but nourisheth and cherisheth it, euen as the Lord the Church:
For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.
For this cause shall a man leaue his father and mother, and shall be ioyned vnto his wife, and they two shalbe one flesh.
This is a great mysterie: but I speake concerning Christ and the Church.
Neuerthelesse, let euery one of you in particular, so loue his wife euen as himselfe, and the wife see that she reuerence her husband.


In fact, I see in this context, that you actually should love your wife, care for her like you care for your own body. Actually, if I did something wrong, I wouldn't start beating myself for that. I will learn it only by knowing that I did something wrong. In the quote I made, I read so much love and respect for each other in a marriage- I think, violence should be no topic in that. Marriage is something holy to me and in my opinion it shouldn't be stained by violence, which is something evil in my eyes.
Do you really like if your wife is scared of you? Wouldn't you prefer it, if she would look up to you with respect instead of fear? Don't you think, a peaceful partnership is possible without any violence?

[Didymus Much]

Re: Wives!! Stay in your abusive marriage!!

...Eph. 5:23-32

"For the husband is the head of the wife, euen as Christ is the head of the Church..."

...Wouldn't you prefer it, if she would look up to you with respect instead of fear?...

Ecclesiastes 8:13 "But it shall not be well with the wicked, neither shall he prolong his days, which are as a shadow; because he feareth not before God."

I just did a Bible search for "fear God" (272 results) and "love God" (211 results). What does that tell you about what God prefers?

As for "respect God", only 82 results.

[John Creeser]

Re: Wives!! Stay in your abusive marriage!!

Don't you think, a peaceful partnership is possible without any violence?

Absolutely, I could not agree more...as long as she isn't in violation of God's Holy Word.

For instance, there was that one time she spoke in church.

[Eli Celina]

Re: Wives!! Stay in your abusive marriage!!

Thank you for the link, John Creeser. I did read the thread and in fact, I have some questions, if you don't mind, since I am completely new to christianity and didn't finish the bible yet.
I know, it doesn't matter much to you, because all you want is to go to heaven along with your wife, but... may I ask if you are happy together? Does she agree that she gets punished?
And, in fact she wasn't speaking, I think. As every human would do, she made a noise because of pain or maybe because she was shocked for a moment, so she didn't intend to speak. Is that really a sin, if you couldn't control it? Isn't it punishment enough to realise what she just did? You see, I don't understand the sin yet. Is it only a sin, if you are aware that it is a sin, or can you be a sinner without knowing anything about god?
Did you regret that you had to punish her? What did you feel in that moment? I ask, because I really can't imagine to hurt a person I love.
You don't have to answer these questions, but I would be really grateful.


And one thing for this thread: As someone said before, if it is an "abusive" marriage, it has nothing to do with love anymore. And hurting a person without reason, isn't that a sin? Wouldn't that mean that she is married to a man who is a sinner? I think, a divorce would be the better choice so she can look for a good man.


And a question to everyone: At what age do you think you should marry?

[Didymus Much]

Re: Wives!! Stay in your abusive marriage!!

...all you want is to go to heaven along with your wife, but...

Maybe he wants to go to Heaven to get away from his wife:

Mark 12:25 "For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven."

...Does she agree that she gets punished?...

What does that have to do with it? Do you think prison terms should be voluntary?

...Is that really a sin, if you couldn't control it?...

1 John 5:18 "We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not."

Her sinning means she isn't Saved yet. If she was Saved, she would be incapable of sinning.

[Creationist Ron]

Re: Wives!! Stay in your abusive marriage!!

You're following the wrong letters because Landover Baptist's are honestly blowing each sentence in the Bible out of proportion.

I pray you find your way to Christ or broil in hell.

[husbandslover]

Re: Wives!! Stay in your abusive marriage!!

I was a feminist when my husband and I started dating but after we got married, he was determined to make me mind. I'm much better now. Its good to paddle your wife even she detests it if u stay persistent she will respect you for it later. I know he just wants to save me from the lake of fire now, even thoiugh I used to get so angry at him for it.

[GAY AND STUPID]

Re: Wives!! Stay in your abusive marriage!!

You beat your wives becuase they add too much starch? oh my piffleing god, you guys are bigger assholes than i thought

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: Wives!! Stay in your abusive marriage!!

You beat your wives becuase they add too much starch? oh my piffleing god, you guys are bigger assholes than i thought

This is your second warning about the foul language. If you can't make your points without controlling your emotions, you'll be asked to leave.

YiC,

Zech

[BelieverInGod]

Re: Wives!! Stay in your abusive marriage!!

You beat your wives becuase they add too much starch? oh my piffleing god, you guys are bigger assholes than i thought

Look, none of the women here are interested in you. And I'm pretty sure with the uncontrolled emotions that you show, you'd be an abuser. I have found, in my experience, most abusers are pretty much adults with the mentality of 2-year-olds.

And there is a huge difference between correction and abuse. Maybe before you tackle the Bible, you should attempt a dictionary.

[wotheactualwot]

Re: Wives!! Stay in your abusive marriage!!

Friends,

We all know the only reason God will allow a divorce is if adultery is committed, there is NO other reason.

Matthew 5:32 But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.

Well one such Godly Republican has been reading his King James version of the Bible too!!

Source

Look, a True Christian™ husband doesn't just smack his wife around for no reason, that would be wrong. The only reason we physically punish our wives is because they did something incredibly stupid (burned the pie, used too much starch, accidentally flashed an ankle, etc). As with any sub-intelligent species, they need a physical reminder in order for it to truly sink in (unlike a male who just needs to be told once). I do the same thing with my dog.

So ladies, next time you are enduring your husbands blows, remember the things you love about your husband (think positive) and the reasons you two fell in love.

God bless you Representative Don Pridemore!! A True Christian Republican™ standing up for traditional Christian marital values

So you beat the shit out of your dog to train him/her?

Say hi to the RSPCA.

[Dr Laurence Niles]

Re: Wives!! Stay in your abusive marriage!!

So you beat the shit out of your dog to train him/her?

Say hi to the RSPCA.

Did you miss the part where Brother Creeser states that he does not 'beat the shit out of his dog', as you so crudely put it: he is teaching it not to pee inside the house?

Or do you think it is okay for a wife to hitch her skirt and urinate on the floor? Just what goes through you atheist's heads?

YIC

[Mark L. Snyde, PhD]

Re: Wives!! Stay in your abusive marriage!!

Did you miss the part where Brother Creeser states that he does not 'beat the shit out of his dog', as you so crudely put it: he is teaching it not to pee inside the house?

Or do you think it is okay for a wife to hitch her skirt and urinate on the floor? Just what goes through you atheist's heads?

YIC

It seems very few either Unsaved Trash take the time to actually read and understand threads, or reading comprehension is virtually non-existent in the Godless.

[lydiaa]

Re: Wives!! Stay in your abusive marriage!!

If the bible preaches to not only accept but embrace violence in the name if The Lord, then there's no surprise that all of yous are so messed up. If I ever get married and my husband hits me, I would not stand it. I would hit him back and leave him. No women should be a slave to their husband, and Christians should not encourage or promote domestic abuse In the name of god. It's sick.